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H.B.M.C. wrote:The only 5th Ed Codex to come out in 4th was Codexaemons, and you could stretch that a bit for Orks.

The design studio said that the Orks are fifth, so I think that is official enough. It was also one of their best examples of not knowing their own rules when they stated in an interview that the Battle Wagon could fire Big Shootas as defensive weapons under fifth edition rules :\ Who else guesses there was a revision of the rule-set where defensive weapons were classified as S5 and below?

Ostrakon wrote:

Vhalyar wrote:

CrazyThang wrote:True, but it is kind of funny how they beep in DoW...

Which is rather stupid, since they are quite capable of talking as seen when you attack a stronghold
I guess Lords can't be arsed to talk in general because it takes computing power away from their eternal game of minesweeper.

Do they all beep though? If I remember right, it's only tomb spyders and builder scarabs (the actual "robots") that beep.

And the only talking Necron in the game is the Pariah because he's half-human anyway. Presumably -and this is assuming the game is canon - the C'Tan selected him as a herald. Although since the 'crons insist on killing everyone anyway, one would wonder why they would need one except for dramatic license.

IIRC, Lords and Spyders and the like beeped while warriors, flayed ones, etc. made a kind of grinding noise (kinda like gears grinding). I got bored too quickly to attack their stronghold though, so if they do talk it's news to me.
Sorry for the off-topicness

CrazyThang wrote:

Ostrakon wrote:

Vhalyar wrote:

CrazyThang wrote:True, but it is kind of funny how they beep in DoW...

Which is rather stupid, since they are quite capable of talking as seen when you attack a stronghold
I guess Lords can't be arsed to talk in general because it takes computing power away from their eternal game of minesweeper.

Do they all beep though? If I remember right, it's only tomb spyders and builder scarabs (the actual "robots") that beep.

And the only talking Necron in the game is the Pariah because he's half-human anyway. Presumably -and this is assuming the game is canon - the C'Tan selected him as a herald. Although since the 'crons insist on killing everyone anyway, one would wonder why they would need one except for dramatic license.

IIRC, Lords and Spyders and the like beeped while warriors, flayed ones, etc. made a kind of grinding noise (kinda like gears grinding). I got bored too quickly to attack their stronghold though, so if they do talk it's news to me.
Sorry for the off-topicness

I thought that was the hum of their gauss weaponry and disruption fields.

Ostrakon wrote:

CrazyThang wrote:

Ostrakon wrote:

Vhalyar wrote:

CrazyThang wrote:True, but it is kind of funny how they beep in DoW...

Which is rather stupid, since they are quite capable of talking as seen when you attack a stronghold
I guess Lords can't be arsed to talk in general because it takes computing power away from their eternal game of minesweeper.

Do they all beep though? If I remember right, it's only tomb spyders and builder scarabs (the actual "robots") that beep.

And the only talking Necron in the game is the Pariah because he's half-human anyway. Presumably -and this is assuming the game is canon - the C'Tan selected him as a herald. Although since the 'crons insist on killing everyone anyway, one would wonder why they would need one except for dramatic license.

IIRC, Lords and Spyders and the like beeped while warriors, flayed ones, etc. made a kind of grinding noise (kinda like gears grinding). I got bored too quickly to attack their stronghold though, so if they do talk it's news to me.
Sorry for the off-topicness

I thought that was the hum of their gauss weaponry and disruption fields.

Eh, possible. I barely played 'crons.

Uhh.... to get this back on topic.... umm.... what color are BAs?

Chamleoneyes wrote:Whatever happen to all the rumours about the Chaos Legion/cult books? I havent heard a rumour about a World Eaters, Death Guard, Emperors Children or Thousand Son book for several months now. Was that a legit rumour or was all that of just wishful thinking born from the lack of legion builds in the current CSM codex? The idea of it seems sounds, being that there is a "core/vanilla SM book" and then a bunch of spin offs (BA,DA, SW, BT). Wouldnt the CSM book be considered the Chaos vanilla, and (WE, DG, EC, and TS) be the spin offs? Granted the time line for the releases on these would take a while unless GW decided to do a whole year of chaos releases.

If they want codex csm to be the "evil" codex space marines, with the legions being analogous to the other variant chapters, i'd much prefer they update Codex Chaos marines first. It's not that it isn't effective, but that the effective builds are very similar to each other, and there's a lot of units that rarely see the battlefield. Chaos lords, dreadnaughts, possessed, thousand sons, noise marines, the whole of the fast attack section and summoned daemons are, IMO, far too ignorable.

So due to the pulling of the Inquisitions codexi people are willing to believe that they are if not next then to be soon. Has anything model or rule wise been leaked if they are?

Necrons are still having work down. Has anyone heard anything defenitive about them?

Tau are getting resculpts so a possible minor release.

BT. . . people would like them? Seems to be the only solid thing heard about them.

DA. . .again nothing (AFAIK) has been solidly released.

DE. . . I'm sorry

First of all, Codex --> Codices. Codices, Codices, Codices!

So due to the pulling of the Inquisitions codexi people are willing to believe that they are if not next then to be soon. Has anything model or rule wise been leaked if they are?

Plus the pulling of the Battle Sisters box.

DE. . . I'm sorry

People say they've been working on the minis.

Tau are getting resculpts so a possible minor release.

Are they? Two codices faster than any other new race in 40k, Tau need to be happy with what they've got for right now.

I am a necron player so Tau don't excite my fancy. Just relaying what I have heard here and else where.

I know Tau sell better than Necrons but 3 codex to 1. . .

DruidODurham wrote:
Are they? Two codices faster than any other new race in 40k, Tau need to be happy with what they've got for right now.

I'll second that. It'd be extremely messed up if Tau got their 3rd codex while DH,WH,Necrons,and DE are all still stuck on their 1st. And no,I don't count the revised DE 'dex as a "new" codex.

Somone should start a poll on which army we think will get the next book after BA.

I've heard Ogre Kingdoms was to be released within the coming months from other Warhammer Fantasy forums.

Noobtodagame wrote:So due to the pulling of the Inquisitions codexi people are willing to believe that they are if not next then to be soon. Has anything model or rule wise been leaked if they are?

Necrons are still having work down. Has anyone heard anything defenitive about them?

Tau are getting resculpts so a possible minor release.

BT. . . people would like them? Seems to be the only solid thing heard about them.

DA. . .again nothing (AFAIK) has been solidly released.

DE. . . I'm sorry

3-ups and concept art for Grey Knights and Sisters have been spotted by a reliable source, but no photos yet (not surprising). Necron are a known qualtity, but seem to be a little while off yet. Tau are not currently rumoured to be in production, so I would not expect to see them any time soon (unless Games Workshop have finally managed to keep something a *complete* secret). Black Templars are known to be in the pipe, but no rumoured release date as of yet. Nothing on Dark Angels, and I have serious doubts they will get updated again soon. Dark Eldar are coming next year. They always come next year

The Dark Eldar are the perfect fluff army- because when ever any one pauses to consider them in any way (but in particular as to when they get a new codex) it always leaves a person feeling hopeless and cynical.

The Armies i think need a release or model update most (far more important than rules releases) are

- Dark Eldar
Everything, except maybe Incubi, were average to poor when first released, and all have aged badly.

-Necrons
Lots of metal need plasticising, needs more units in general, needs a recut of the monolith so it fits together.

-Tau
New Crisis suits, new vespids, new units in general.

i hope a new templar codex comes out soon

Carlovonsexron wrote:The Dark Eldar are the perfect fluff army- because when ever any one pauses to consider them in any way (but in particular as to when they get a new codex) it always leaves a person feeling hopeless and cynical.

Quoted for truth.

I thought the Necron codex said they're completlely silent, isn't that one of the eerie things about them?

Anyway seems that the only models people have seen are new Inquisition and new Dark Eldar (though I still disbelieve). New Templars would be dead easy, esp if they get the flying land raider too, but no one seems to have heard a word about them. New Tau would need new models to sell, without rumors I don't see it happening. Same with Necrons.

So I'll be optimisitc and say it's Inquisition, Daemon Hunters/Grey Knights at least.

hmmm

i do necrons as well and wud love one of them

but so far its just marine after marine

could you do me a favour and look at my 1000 point templar list and write what you think

I'd like to see Codex: Whiny Nerds.

Codex: Rules Lawyers would be a good one as well.

It would contain a single word but because of the nature of the codex that single word would be the cause of a 50page FAQ because the WAW would not necessarily be the same as WAI.

Whatever1 wrote:

DruidODurham wrote:
Are they? Two codices faster than any other new race in 40k, Tau need to be happy with what they've got for right now.

I'll second that. It'd be extremely messed up if Tau got their 3rd codex while DH,WH,Necrons,and DE are all still stuck on their 1st. And no,I don't count the revised DE 'dex as a "new" codex.

Witchhunters are actually on their second codex, not counting a get you by in a white dwarf IRC.

When did Witchhunters get a second codex, efarrer? I assume you're not referring to Codex: Sisters of Battle from 2nd edition as one of them?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:the flying land raider

My immediate thoughts when I read that:

Land Raider Cheesius - 250 points
Vehicle (Fast, Skimmer, Tank)
AV: F14 S14 B14
Hull-Mounted Twin-Linked Battle Cannons, Pintle-Mounted Demolisher Cannon, Two Sponsoon-Mounted Chem Cannons, Smoke Launchers, Searchlights, and a Power Fist on a chain.
Transport Capacity: 12, or 6 in Terminator Armour.
Power of the Machine Spirit, Assault Vehicle.

Whatever1 wrote:I don't count the revised DE 'dex as a "new" codex.

Others do.
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efarrer wrote:Witchhunters are actually on their second codex, not counting a get you by in a white dwarf IRC.

No, first as "WH", third if you count SoB,

But then, so are Assassins.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I thought the Necron codex said they're completlely silent, isn't that one of the eerie things about them?

It does say that, but DoW couldn't just have completely silent 'crons. They needed to have some kind of noise to make when you click on them: for most of them it was the low hum of their weaponry.

There was a Pariah who, for whatever reason, spoke. I dunno if that's canon, because there's little to no information about Pariahs (or any specific unit for that matter) in the codex.

I don't think it is. The Necron lord in Soulstorm apparently spoke too, and like General Grievous even.

That's funny, I've been joking about making my Necron Lord for the force I'm building look like General Grievous. I would think that the Lords talk, but the warriors do not, being that they are pretty much mindless drones. I think of the Lord as pretty much a spokes person. Kinda like the Sorcerors who lead rubric Marines for Thousand Sons.

Anyways, back on topic. The more I see this posting go on I get the feeling that the next book will either be:
1st: Inquisition/GreyKnights
2nd: Necrons
I'm not even going to consider DE until I see a GW article saying "Incomming Dark Eldar" or a bunch of photos of new plastic DE stuff. Rumors of the update of their codex seem to only feed dissapointment. That's not to say that I don't welcome a codex update for them, but it just seems like there is little to go on for an update for them outside of rumors and hearsay. Come to think about it when was the last time we even saw a fluff piece about DE? Where they mentioned in the Nid, SW, IG or SM codexs? It might go as far back as the 5th edition rule book. Meanwhile Necrons/Tau have made it into the fluff and or pictures in each codex. GW dosen't seem to like DE very much, or maybe it's just implied that they are by themselves in their own little corner of the galaxy.

Dark Eldar were mentioned in Codex: Space Wolves, and I believe Dark Eldar were mentioned in Codex: Tyranids.

Really? I stand corrected then. I'll have to go look them up, I'm just curious to see what was written for them.

Not sure about what mentioned Dark Eldar in 'Nids if at all, but in Space Wolves I think it recounted a battle between them. However, it doesn't mention they are Dark Eldar, but "raider xenos," or something along those lines.
Pretty much, they get no love, but are still there.
And I'm not sure how they could eliminate Necrons.

Ostrakon wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I thought the Necron codex said they're completlely silent, isn't that one of the eerie things about them?

It does say that, but DoW couldn't just have completely silent 'crons. They needed to have some kind of noise to make when you click on them: for most of them it was the low hum of their weaponry.

There was a Pariah who, for whatever reason, spoke. I dunno if that's canon, because there's little to no information about Pariahs (or any specific unit for that matter) in the codex.

Apparently a Lord does speak in the Apocalypse: Reload book.

Lexicanum wrote:One Necron Lord, designated the Herald of Dismay, is confirmed to have been present at the Damnos Incident where it issued a chilling ultimatum regarding the implacable nature of the "Machine" and inevitability of its victory.

LiberatedObject wrote:Not sure about what mentioned Dark Eldar in 'Nids if at all

There was a short story where some Dark Eldar raiders borded a hibernating hive ship/fleet in an attemt to get some alien live trophies or some such. Some nids woke up and they all died pretty much.