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shrike wrote:good point. orks have 'em, IG have 'em, SM have 'em, SW have 'em, BA have 'em- why don't GK have 'em?


They're smart, they know that no one actually uses stock techmarines with servitors!

 
   
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true. I have never seen or heard of anyone using servitors.


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shrike wrote:good point. orks have 'em, IG have 'em, SM have 'em, SW have 'em, BA have 'em- why don't GK have 'em?


I seem to remember that full Mechanicus implants interefere with psychic abilities and that is probably why Grey Knights have no tech marines. Its probably that and the fact that Titan isn't too far from Mars, the heart of the Mechanicum. That said they might pick up a tech priest profile like the IG have.
   
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that's what I was thinking. Not a techknight, but a techpriest. They are next door to mars.


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Jaon wrote:I doubt that, unless you have to cast them each turn with a chance of damage to the vehicle? It may negate stunned and shaken, but 13-13-11 dreadnoughts, and what could possibley be 15-15-15 land raiders (is that against the rules?) as well as 13-11-11 chimeras, to OP, unless its like a 30 point vehicle upgrade.


The rumor was that the vehicle could cast 'Blessed Hull' on itself and increase one facing by +2 AV, to a maximum of 14.

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shrike wrote:true. I have never seen or heard of anyone using servitors.


Well I would totally take them if they were 7 points and techpriests were 20 points. But theyre not

 
   
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They are next door to mars.

Yes but at the same time it´s not that easy.

The GKs are spread out thin across the whole galaxy, thus only a small part is located near mars itself or even near any other forgeworld for that matter.
Most are part of kill teams guarding various hotspots and/or traveling in strike cruisers far from home.

The second issue is survivability.
A mere techpriest or enginseer or tech servitor would probably not last the coarse of one single "typical GK engagement. Those techpriests/enginseera ARE normal humans and would die from wounds or simply go raving mad from the exposure to the demonic that they would undoubtedly be exposed to while tending GK vehicles in the field on battle.

Simply put, having "normal" humans or servitors tending GK vehicles in battle far from home would be to unreliable. Only a GK could be relied on to perform vehicle maintenance during a GK engagement in the middle of the battle.

Thus the question still stands, who takes care of the GK vehicle pool and wargear such as advanced repairs etc when most of the GKs and their allocated vehicle pool spends long time far from home and the coozy mars factories and also does so while still being able to survive the physical and psychological horrors of GK combat?

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fatty wrote:dark elves are based off Holland united East trading company and pirats so are dark eldar


Did you make this up yourself

To be honest I don't see any trading company resemblances.


kind off this is a product of me and some fellow outriders. we wanted too know from which cultures armies where made.
and the united east trading company was my translation of de verenigde oost inndische company VOC.

and isnt titan the moon of mars?

the banner is click able. it takes you to a magical country. if you don't believe me click and see for your self

 
   
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fatty wrote:and isnt titan the moon of mars?

saturn.


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I am worried about price wise. $$$ Especially if this is going to be an Elite low count army, we will be paying through the roof for the minis. So I am guessing the prices will be metal prices for plastic.

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Doubt TAGK will cost the same as they currently do, but Its my guess they will cost more than normal termies because they will be bigger.

Btw someone not so long ago said they didnt like the Sanguinary Guard models because their Glaives were to varied. I agree, but that wasnt the point...

The point is, they were done with a lot of fine detail and are very realistic, well sized, and overall nice looking models. The modellers for the new TAGK will be sticking to the GK way and we can probably expect to see no more variation than Halberds and Swords (TH/SS?). My point was the models will not be gakky.

   
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Am I misunderstanding this? Does this mean EVERY NFW counts as a Force Weapon?

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crazypsyko666 wrote:Am I misunderstanding this? Does this mean EVERY NFW counts as a Force Weapon?


If it ends up being spot-on, it probably means it'll go something like this:

-Grey Knights make their attacks and wound
-Squad as a whole passes a psychic test (a la Psyker Battle Squads)
-Their wounds cause Instant Death
   
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Sounds 100% fair to Nids

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Ya, luckily i'm the only one who plays GK/Inq at my FLGS *Whipes forehead* and since the guys and gals there aren't into switching armies very often... I shouldn't have much to worry about, but the 'Nids race as a whole died inside... Then again, psychic tests do have to be passed on 3d6, but it still only helps so much...

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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.

Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.


 
   
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Ah how funny, a well known youtuber who makes DoW vids just made one for GK!



 
   
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bhsman wrote:
crazypsyko666 wrote:Am I misunderstanding this? Does this mean EVERY NFW counts as a Force Weapon?


If it ends up being spot-on, it probably means it'll go something like this:

-Grey Knights make their attacks and wound
-Squad as a whole passes a psychic test (a la Psyker Battle Squads)
-Their wounds cause Instant Death

I misread it. It reads that NFWs will be power weapons instead of 6 str. I'm wondering if that implies ALL of their units with NFW+SB now have power weapons, which is what it sounds like. Ridiculous, to say the least.

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Id prefer str 6 honestly.
   
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Kirasu wrote:Sounds 100% fair to Nids


Instant Death doesn't mean much against a gigantic unit of FC/Poisoned attack Hormagaunts.

Against MCs and Warriors? Maybe, but it's never a good idea to compare units in a vacuum.
   
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I highly doubt that PAGK can gain any way of getting instant death, maybe on a roll of a 6 their sarg can or something, not sure, but it wouldnt be "pass psychic test to make all attacks instant death" would it?
   
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Jaon wrote:Id prefer str 6 honestly.

yep. +1.
well, depends. I'd like:
PAGK: +2S.
justicar: +2S power weapon.
TAGK: +2S (master-crafted) power weapon.
paladin: +2S master crafted force weapon/power weapon.
brother-captain: +2S master-crafted force weapon.
grand master: +2S full-blown master-crafted ID'ing force weapon.


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corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. 
   
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kenshin620 wrote:Ah how funny, a well known youtuber who makes DoW vids just made one for GK!




Dang, that was awesome...

Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.

Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.


 
   
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kenshin620 wrote:Ah how funny, a well known youtuber who makes DoW vids just made one for GK!




I think he times them to codex releases, because his last video was Dark Eldar. If that's true, we can expect the necron video next.

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Happygrunt wrote:

I think he times them to codex releases, because his last video was Dark Eldar. If that's true, we can expect the necron video next.


Except he made the DE vid a year ago

And technically his last vid before the GK one was for FoK 3.5




 
   
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In the GK one- 1:00- "but even the most faithful inquisitors need to call for aid whe the treat is too dire"
"THE TREATS ARE TOO DIRE! WE NEED REINFORCEMENTS!" sounds like young sherlock all over again...
what DoW game is that?


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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. 
   
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shrike wrote:
what DoW game is that?


Inquisition Daemonhunt




 
   
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sorry to drift OT, but i've installed it, but every time I click on the program it loads up the installation thing again. I click install, it says it's been installed, goes to an advert, I close the advert, click on the program and it comes up with the installation again!!!


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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. 
   
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You got to open Dark Crusade and click on manage games. Its a mod.

OT: Dose anyone know when we might be getting a Grey Knight Teaser of some kind?

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I can't wait to buy one of these, open the box, peek at the sprues, and then put it back in the box and store it unpainted for years.
 
   
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thanks!


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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. 
   
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kenshin620 wrote:Inquisition Daemonhunt





How do I know how much of a nerd I am? Because I still get chills watching the trailer for this mod.
   
 
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