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DH - If you ask me, they could skip it. Its not worth the effort.
Next some xenos race please.

wuestenfux wrote:DH - If you ask me, they could skip it. Its not worth the effort.
Next some xenos race please.

If you wear power armour, your a friend of games workshop. I cant see why GW would skip DH. And what zeno race needs updating other than necrons?

On the contrary, It is utterly ridiculous they are updating orks, again... 2 updates in one edition? wtfux?!

what i thoughed that was fantasy orcs and goblins?

Jaon wrote:Id prefer str 6 honestly.

PW are much better against MEq. Haven't checked Fw vs MC yet

fatty wrote:what i thoughtthat was fantasy orcs and goblins?

It is WHFB's "Orcs and Goblins".

That fact, however, does not stop people from misconstruing it and raging.

Jaon wrote:

wuestenfux wrote:DH - If you ask me, they could skip it. Its not worth the effort.
Next some xenos race please.

If you wear power armour, your a friend of games workshop. I cant see why GW would skip DH. And what zeno race needs updating other than necrons?

On the contrary, It is utterly ridiculous they are updating orks, again... 2 updates in one edition? wtfux?!

Ordo Malleus should be a faction of the Emperor's forces, just a detachment, not a full army.

Look, Power Armor is Prevelant, I am biased, because I play GK and SM scouts. At any rate, how would you feel if they skipped your race for another, or delayed it beyond belief? *Points at DE*

Aside that, I can see why your upset/annoyed. BUT Space Marines and their independants will be updated, and while you can be angry at GW, it will not delay the inevitable.

Not sure why GW cares that much about some GKs.
I wouldn't care if their fortification would have been lost in the warp.

wuestenfux wrote:Not sure why GW cares that much about some GKs.
I wouldn't care if their fortification would have been lost in the warp.

How can it be lost when its near terra?

Of course then again I know people that wouldnt mind tau being om nomed by nidz or crushed by orks or purged by ultramarines

What I care about is someone coming into a clearly labeled thread to complain about the faction in the thread title.

Please keep this thread ON TOPIC.

Samus_aran115 wrote:That super terminator thing sounds like an obliterator to me....I'm expecting it to be as big

It would be interesting if they were bigger/badder than normal GKTs Something like a Super Shredder version of them.

Kanluwen wrote:

fatty wrote:what i thought that was fantasy orcs and goblins?

It is WHFB's "Orcs and Goblins".

That fact, however, does not stop people from misconstruing it and raging.

well we dont say warhammer 40,000 now do we?
we say 40k so why cant i just say fantasy istead of WHFB?

I was planning to build my first army a Space Wolves one... but those GK will look awesome.

I dont care about rules, look those details in metal!!!! Im just imagining how they will look in plastic

And high elite armies could mean "cheap" in plastic...

What is going to be the fate ofwitch hunters? Are they going to be rolled into the same book as deamon hunters.

I bet it will be Codex: Sisters of Battle with options to take witch hunter inquisitors and some SC to make arbites/storms as troops

Anyway, OT, any news on the Dread-like vehicle?

Trevak Dal wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:That super terminator thing sounds like an obliterator to me....I'm expecting it to be as big

It would be interesting if they were bigger/badder than normal GKTs Something like a Super Shredder version of them.

Regular termies are awesome...even bigger ones...Id be all over them.

More updates thanks to Katie Drake over on Heresy Online. Updated the rumor roundup, new rumors in red----some specificity about GK Power Armor cost, Storm Raven FOC, etc.

+1 Alpharius.


On the dread-like vehicle, Im not sure whether your talking dreadknight or dreadnought, but without a doubt there will be dreadnoughts. To all those fewls saying "GK dont use dreadnoughts" your wrong, they just dont like using them, they still have them.

On the dreadknight (note that is the internet name given to it, because its pretty much a monstrous creature GKT in my imagination, but I find its existence unlikely) there is little we know, but on the dreadNOUGHT, there are a number of interesting little tibits:

The GK dreadnought plastic kit will also include options for BA (bloodfists, bloodtalons, magna-grapple, all those)
The GK DN will have a souped up psycannon that is potentially weaker but fires faster, or maybe its the same stats with a higher rate of fire. In any case, the rate of fire can be put somewhere between 5 - 12, as rumours hold it. Its stats are rumoured to be str 7 ap 4 rending, which, in a way, discounts 12 shots, because that could EASILY shred a land raider. If it is indeed a psycannon and not something like a punisher gatling cannon or an assault cannon, then it will most likely ignore invulnerable saves.

The GK DN will also possess a weapon not much different to the hellhound inferno cannon, in the fact that you place the template within 12' (or whatever the range will be, most likely 6' - 12' ) and turn it. This I suspect will be much like an Incinerator, but probably with an added one strength, although it is safe to say that it will 100% be ap 4, ap 5 is underpowered, ap 3 inferno cannon would be the doom of all, and you would see 3 in every single list. So summary on that is that its most likely Str 6 ap 4 range 12 place the template, but these are just rumours. It could quite possibley stay at str 5, but what deters me from believing this is that it IS a tank mounted weapon. No doubt it will ignore invulners.

Its probably also safe to assume that the GK dreadnought will receive all the upgrades it used to have, although take note they may not be in the plastic kit (I.e TL autocannons)
So the DNs options will most likely be as followed: rumoured psycannon arm, rumoured incinerator arm, assault cannon, lascannon, twin linked heavy bolter, twin linked autocannon , multimelta, plasma cannon. These are all in edition to the usual close combat arm with storm bolter on it (Is it possible to get incinerators on a GK DN CCW? only time will tell)

While we are on the subject of flame weapons, It is probably safe to say that any GK units in the codex that have a template weapon also ignore invulnerables with it. (meaning ISTs do not, because they are not grey knights) So based on this fact, will the redeemer flame storm cannons not ignore inv saves? And wouldnt it be just awesome if both the flamestorm cannons acted like inferno cannons!

That is my question.

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:I was planning to build my first army a Space Wolves one... but those GK will look awesome.

I dont care about rules, look those details in metal!!!! Im just imagining how they will look in plastic

And high elite armies could mean "cheap" in plastic...

yep but this is GW we are talking about so they will find a way to make us pay 1 millioen for 3 models

AgeOfEgos wrote:More updates thanks to Katie Drake over on Heresy Online. Updated the rumor roundup, new rumors in red----some specificity about GK Power Armor cost, Storm Raven FOC, etc.

Thank you for the repeated updates. I'm not much of a Marine fan but I do like me the Grey Knight concept.

Have to scedule my bank robbery for the end of Feb. :-P

At the printers means how long possibly? Just to get a rough idea.

Orcs and Gobbos are in march, so bet on April at the earliest.

Kurgash wrote:At the printers means how long possibly? Just to get a rough idea.

I think GW tries to get their writing done and ready to be published three months in advance. So probably April.

Trevak Dal wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:That super terminator thing sounds like an obliterator to me....I'm expecting it to be as big

It would be interesting if they were bigger/badder than normal GKTs Something like a Super Shredder version of them.

Thanks for that memory. Anyone else notice that the mutagen not only made him huge, but bulked up his armor too? Crazy, right?

On topic - I can't wait. I hope this gives SW a run for their money, because I am getting a bit tired of their Codex sitting on the top. I know that is petty and childish, but what can I say, I am tired of the Wolves.

GKT as Troops? Yes, please. Can't wait to see how absurdly elite I can make the army and I really can't wait for some preview models to crop up.

Sweet, a statline for my chaos aspiring champion terminator squad in apocalypse games! I'm gonna love this

Every new marine toy is just another fun thing for me to make a chaos version of and use in Apocalypse, so bring them on!

"Q1: How many points are the "standard" Grey Knights in the Codex?
A: Five points more than a Grey Hunter, but this person expects that people will mostly be using the Terminators as Troops who cost as much as a vanilla Terminator."

Waaa...? So, 2-Wound, Psychic-Power-Casting Terminators are going to cost the same as Vanilla Terminators? Somehow, I doubt it. However, if, by some wacky stretch of GW's 'Make the new Codex the r0xorZ' initiative, this turns out to be true, then... I may have to start a second All-Terminator Army...

They arent 2 wound, but they are nominally better. You are thinking of what the rumours are calling Paladin Terminators, a special honourguard like squad of terminators you can have, you can only have one squad of them, and they have 4++ invs and 2 wounds.

Not all GK terminators will have that.

Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.