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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 16:42:43
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Phanobi
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Still the best bone I've ever painted was a white spray undercoat and a wash of Gryphonne Sepia. Done!
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This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 17:14:04
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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[MOD]
Solahma
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FacelessMage wrote:*crosses fingers for mummies*
Good point! Why no mummy heavy infantry?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 17:22:00
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Manchu wrote:FacelessMage wrote:*crosses fingers for mummies*
Good point! Why no mummy heavy infantry?
That's what the Tomb Guard were supposed to be, I thought?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 17:34:36
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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[MOD]
Solahma
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Yeah, they are. But surely you could have another option. TBH, "here are some more skeleton except these have some armor" is kind of lame.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 17:36:10
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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I think it's going to be kinda hard for them to field "units of Mummies", since that's supposed to be for royalty and the priesthood only.
Maybe Tomb Princes could be turned into a heavy cavalry unit ala the Blood Knights?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 17:47:02
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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[MOD]
Solahma
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Aren't the Carrion buzzards mummified?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 17:48:11
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Skink Chief with Poisoned Javelins
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I have a Ton (25-30 ish) of of the old style mummies that i currently use for Tomb Guard. I would love it if i had the option of jsut using them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 18:11:55
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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I'd love a return of Mummy units again, I miss them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 18:24:57
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Manchu wrote:Aren't the Carrion buzzards mummified?
Good question.
But are they actually, like ritually mummified or just dessication mummification?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 18:29:04
Subject: Re:Tomb Kings Incoming
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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No new Skeletons?!?
The fail continues to be epic with GW.
Epic, epic fail.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 19:18:17
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Deadly Tomb Guard
In ur gaem, killin ur doodz.
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I'm going to give a bleached bone spray, pick out the weapons/armor, dip in Mantics dip, system a try.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 19:20:59
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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[MOD]
Solahma
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Kanluwen wrote:But are they actually, like ritually mummified or just dessication mummification? 
I know that Settra's priests had some crazy ritual. But that's not the sum of mummification. Carrion have ragged bandages, indicating mummification. Other TK units could have ragged bandages, too. I don't know why I had never wondered at it before now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 19:55:15
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Executing Exarch
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Manchu wrote:TBH, "here are some more skeleton except these have some armor" is kind of lame.
I assume that you're only talking about the models, because the core skeletons have armor as well (there are other differences stat-wise between the two units). Tomb Guard are also much more ornately outfitted than what core skeletons would look like with light armor.
For my paint scheme, I used a white spray for the base coat, and then washed it with Devlan Mud.
What? Really?
Ive got the mantic skellies and for TK i prefer the GW ones.
A few new egyptian themed weapons to go with the shields and id be happy
The *only* thing that's Egyptian-themed about the GW plastic skeletons are the shields. The bodies have nothing that identifies them as such, and the weapons are completely inaccurate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 20:03:21
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Meh, some of the head decorations are vaguely egyptian
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 20:04:23
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Solahma
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@Eumerin: Right. What I should have said is that "here are some more skeleton except these have a little more armor" is kind of lame.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 20:08:19
Subject: Re:Tomb Kings Incoming
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ill just build mine with a Gaelic/Celtic feel then....
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Happiness is Mandatory!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 20:20:39
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Executing Exarch
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Manchu wrote:@Eumerin: Right. What I should have said is that "here are some more skeleton except these have a little more armor" is kind of lame.
Well... just to clarify...
Model-wise, the core skeletons don't have any armor except their shields. The Tomb Guard models, on the other hand, have fairly ornate light armor. And they have khopeshes, which are accurate for the historical era that the Tomb Kings are modeled after (as opposed to the completely inappropriate set of weapons on the core skeletons models).
Stat-wise, they both have light armor (or more accurately, you can add it to the core skeletons while Tomb Guard have it automatically). Tomb Guard also have higher strength, higher weapon skill, higher toughness, higher initiative, higher leadership, and Killing Blow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 20:23:27
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Confident Halberdier
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Vitruvian XVII wrote:
Now, how will i ever paint bone without bown ink?? 
Gryphonne Sepia?
Actually, based on what others are throwing out, mine seem to have the most elaborate process (proably explains why I so HATE painting skellies). Iyaden Darksun, then the Sepia, then bleached bone drybrush...and pick out the teeth in skull white with a 18/0 pointer. Makes the bone look like it's actually been under the sand for a few millenia, as opposed to the almost glow-in-the-dark white that the 'eavy metal team favors. Oh, yeah, and then I have to deal with the bows (I only do my core skellies one way), and that 1 in 8 (or is it 1/6?) that has a piece of armor modeled onto the torso. Bottom line, it's mind-numbingly boring soul-destroying drudgery, but anyone (prime example: me!) can bust out 30 skeletal bowmen at slightly above tabletop level in under 10 hours if he keeps his nose to the grindstone.
Eumerin wrote: I assume that you're only talking about the models, because the core skeletons have armor as well
Only if you're idiotic enough to pay extra points for it.
Earthbeard wrote:I'd love a return of Mummy units again, I miss them.
Hmmmm... where would they fit? I kind of see ushabti in that niche right now... Maybe a rare infantry choice? If we get a sphinx, that'd be a doubling of the available rare choices, and the giant gets further marginalized...
More powerful than TG, but more numerous than ushabti, and a 0-1 choice? Obviously, they'd be flamable...probably have MR1/2...Not sure about stats (have to be at least S5/T5 to be worth taking over TG), but they couldn't have armor...could cause terror...maybe a 5+ ward since armor doesn't make sense? Maybe they have to be led by a TK/TP? Or maybe you have to take a HLP to unlock them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 20:28:17
Subject: Re:Tomb Kings Incoming
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Daler-Rowney FW Acrylic Inks?
http://www.dickblick.com/products/daler-rowney-fw-acrylic-water-resistant-artists-ink/
Lbursley has a thread about making ink washes out of these, and so far they work better than what I expected.
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Happiness is Mandatory!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 20:58:16
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Dakka Veteran
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Eumerin wrote: The *only* thing that's Egyptian-themed about the GW plastic skeletons are the shields. The bodies have nothing that identifies them as such, and the weapons are completely inaccurate.
Right... completely inaccurate for the fantasy fictional setting they are from. There may be an Egyptian feel to the Tomb Kings, but they are not Egyptian. So there is no way for things to be inaccurate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 21:01:26
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Solahma
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No need to be so technical. They're Egyptian in the same sense that Empire is German -- i.e., in aesthetic reference. It's true that the handaxes the skeletons have don't really convey the ancient Egyptian feel like a khopesh does.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 21:01:52
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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JHall wrote:Eumerin wrote: The *only* thing that's Egyptian-themed about the GW plastic skeletons are the shields. The bodies have nothing that identifies them as such, and the weapons are completely inaccurate.
Right... completely inaccurate for the fantasy fictional setting they are from. There may be an Egyptian feel to the Tomb Kings, but they are not Egyptian. So there is no way for things to be inaccurate.
Thank you, someone had to say it. When are people going to figure out this is a fantasy game? Material is borrowed from history and mythology for characterful fun and aesthetic purposes, but the models are escapist fun. And not much spoils that escapism faster than people trying to impose the real world on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 21:05:06
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Regular Dakkanaut
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JHall wrote:Eumerin wrote: The *only* thing that's Egyptian-themed about the GW plastic skeletons are the shields. The bodies have nothing that identifies them as such, and the weapons are completely inaccurate.
Right... completely inaccurate for the fantasy fictional setting they are from. There may be an Egyptian feel to the Tomb Kings, but they are not Egyptian. So there is no way for things to be inaccurate.
What are you talking about? My Simpsons Abraham Lincoln Space Marines are a documentary filmed in real time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 21:06:57
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Solahma
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Let me just give all my Dwarf Thunderers heavy bolters . . .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 21:08:00
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Dakka Veteran
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BaconSlayer wrote:
What are you talking about? My Simpsons Abraham Lincoln Space Marines are a documentary filmed in real time.
Ha! Awesome!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 21:29:56
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Manchu wrote:No need to be so technical. They're Egyptian in the same sense that Empire is German -- i.e., in aesthetic reference. It's true that the handaxes the skeletons have don't really convey the ancient Egyptian feel like a khopesh does.
I've always just given a pass because there's no way that every single skeleton raised in a Tomb Kings army is originally one of the Khemri that were buried with their Tomb Kings.
Do you really think the Tomb Kings and the Priesthood would let the bodies of those who disturb their rest be undisturbed?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 21:30:50
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Solahma
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Sorry, Kan, I can't hear your reasoning over the roar of my dwarfs firing their bolters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/16 05:57:56
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Sureshot Kroot Hunter
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What would be sweet would be if there was some kind of giant floating pyramid, and from the ground beneath it the skeletons would rise again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/16 06:47:31
Subject: Re:Tomb Kings Incoming
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drinking ale on the ground like russ intended
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/16 08:57:14
Subject: Tomb Kings Incoming
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Hacking Shang Jí
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Eumerin wrote:JOHIRA wrote:
Too bad they don't look remotely Egyptian.
Turn their shields upside down and they'd look about as Egyptian as the current Tomb King skeleton box.
Isn't that a bit like saying "If you get yourself drunk enough it tastes as good as Denny's food." Even if it's strictly speaking true, it's not really an endorsement.
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