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I forgot to comment on the paint schemes- I love both armies' looks . For yours, the highlighting on your new raiders stands out as being particularly awesome / eye-catching. Are you thinking of getting some of the DE beasts models? Your khamaeras (sp?) look good, although I couldn't quite make out the ones you're using for the flocks. I just picked up a few Clawed Fiends and that model is a really nice sculpt.

In your opponent's, I really like the yellow pattern on the tank (razorback?). If I remember right this is the paint scheme for "veterans" or some such for the Mantis Warrios, while the rest is green. Looks fantastic

The flocks are scarab swarms with little wings on them.

RiTides wrote:I forgot to comment on the paint schemes- I love both armies' looks . For yours, the highlighting on your new raiders stands out as being particularly awesome / eye-catching. Are you thinking of getting some of the DE beasts models? Your khamaeras (sp?) look good, although I couldn't quite make out the ones you're using for the flocks. I just picked up a few Clawed Fiends and that model is a really nice sculpt.

I have 5 of the new Khymera models and 4 flocks. I agree with RiTides, the models are really nice.

Do not know if its been mentioned before, but with regards to game 3, how can 10 man teams take a razorback?

I thought squads of up to 6 could use them as its a TRANSPORT vehicle and a razorback CANNOT transport 10 men.

Just curious.

My internet is messed up, it didint show the other 3 pages after the battle

A transport can be take even if the squad can't fit inside (unless otherwise stated in each codex entry). I beleive it is a previous edition that had a restriction on that, and is no longer in the rules.

However, by breaking into combat squads one of the combat squads would then be able to ride inside.

Hmmmm, i'll have to remember that for future reference... a bit beardy and unsporting though to do that with razorbacks and 10 man squads.

Or maybe not, a good way to add firepower and minimise kill points. I am not so much a gamer as modeller, just play casually.

Not all armies can take transports for oversized squads. Space Marines can though.

Have to echo the "poor terrain" sentiment. A shooty army would gain so much from that kind of setup that it's almost silly...

AlmightyWalrus wrote:Have to echo the "poor terrain" sentiment. A shooty army would gain so much from that kind of setup that it's almost silly...

That's why I take terrain with me. Orks have 4+ cover all the time. My Necrons have Mobile BLOS terrain. And my DE have 5++ invuls regardless of cover, and 4+ cover for flat out when they need it.

Terrain never really bothers me one way or the other; I'm not reliant on it in any situation, so its density isn't a factor in my games.

Using raiders to represent venoms until the new model is out shouldn't have been an issue. Expecting people to buy a Vyper, maybe a LSS, some DE, and use them to make a venom seems a bit over the top.

The extra move from pivot seems to be more of a grey area when arriving from reserve (did the vehicle turn sideways just before entering the battle?). When deploying a vehicle sideways, the extra move you can gain can be balanced by the fact you are exposing a possibly weaker facing to the enemy.
The BRB FAQ entry on tank shocking from reserve seems to indicate a vehicle arriving from reserve is not facing sideways, as you are supposed to:
"declare the distance it is going to move along with its direction and move the tank onto the board that many inches, measuring from the board edge as for a normal from reserve."
(my emphasis).
This seems to indicate the vehicle is counted as facing towards the board edge before arriving, not sideways.

As the FAQ entry also mentions "as normal from reserve", and the reserve rules don't specify the facing of the vehicle before it enters, the case can be made for allowing it too (although I personally don't like this interpretation).

This seems like an issue that the players/TO should resolve before the battle (dicing for it if needed), as the threads in YMDC seemed to be locked without a consensus.