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2012/03/26 22:56:39
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Experiment 626 wrote:
It's 8th edition. Internet "wisdom" decrees that when possible, you must always include a Lv4 wizard or you're doing it wrong! 
What if I play Dwarves! 
But seriously, I hope theres some merit to having a general or a order grand master. Maybe some tactical flexibility or something
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2012/03/26 23:18:34
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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kenshin620 wrote:Experiment 626 wrote:
It's 8th edition. Internet "wisdom" decrees that when possible, you must always include a Lv4 wizard or you're doing it wrong!
What if I play Dwarves!
Y'know, that was exactly what I was thinking when I clicked to go on to page 5...
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
 Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
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2012/03/26 23:29:04
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Stubborn Hammerer
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It's strange not seeing pictures up already given the WD is only being released on Saturday.
Hope all goes well with the demigryph knights, as in not another Sepulchral Stalkers syndrome of being too expensive both in cash and points and not being able to make up for it. Sold on the idea, but the models have to seal the deal.
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2012/03/27 00:02:15
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Cruddace? CRUDDACE?
NOT AFTER WHAT HE DID TO TOMB KINGS AND TYRANIDS!!!
Meh, here's to hoping that the book is still solidly competitive.
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Some people play to win, some people play for fun. Me? I play to kill toy soldiers.
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WHFB, AoS, 40k, WM/H, Starship Troopers Miniatures, FoW
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2012/03/27 00:59:34
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Experiment 626 wrote:kenshin620 wrote:Well alright looks like these guys are almost ready to go. Be interesting to see how the army goes and if the usual build of big blocks of infantry with cannons everywhere will change (I doubt it, but Demigriffs might be a good choice for support)
I hope Lords other than Arch Lectors/Wizard Lords are worth anything
It's 8th edition. Internet "wisdom" decrees that when possible, you must always include a Lv4 wizard or you're doing it wrong!
There's no reason you can't currently take a Wizard Lord and a General of the Empire at the same time - they're cheap enough.
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"There are no problems that cannot be solved with cannons." - Chief Engineer Boris Krauss of Nuln
 
LatheBiosas wrote:I have such a difficult time hitting my opponents... setting them on fire seems so much simpler.
Kid_Kyoto wrote:"Don't be a dick" and "This is a family wargame" are good rules of thumb.
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2012/03/27 01:07:37
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
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ANOTHER fantasy update? Where's my 40k at? Where's my Tau at?
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Beezlebub has never seen, a solider quite like me. Who not only does his job but does it happily. I'm the fear that keeps you awake. I'm the shadows on the wall. I'm the monsters they become. I'm the nightmare in your skull. I'm the dagger in your back, an extra turn upon the rack. I'm the quivering of your heart, a stabbing pain, a sudden start. |
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2012/03/27 01:08:29
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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TheMind wrote:ANOTHER fantasy update? Where's my 40k at? Where's my Tau at?
Your 40K was in November. And March, it just wasn't a book.
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2012/03/27 01:10:47
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
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Platuan4th wrote:TheMind wrote:ANOTHER fantasy update? Where's my 40k at? Where's my Tau at?
Your 40K was in November.
And March.
Sage voice: I don't count a second wave that's over 2 years overdue as an update.
But seriously, where's the next codex? Or are they just done until 6th ed comes out?
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Beezlebub has never seen, a solider quite like me. Who not only does his job but does it happily. I'm the fear that keeps you awake. I'm the shadows on the wall. I'm the monsters they become. I'm the nightmare in your skull. I'm the dagger in your back, an extra turn upon the rack. I'm the quivering of your heart, a stabbing pain, a sudden start. |
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2012/03/27 01:12:13
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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ph34r wrote:According to the internet, Empire Celestial Hurricanium
Hurricanium? Definitely a Cruddace book.
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2012/03/27 01:18:55
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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TheMind wrote:Platuan4th wrote:TheMind wrote:ANOTHER fantasy update? Where's my 40k at? Where's my Tau at?
Your 40K was in November.
And March.
Sage voice: I don't count a second wave that's over 2 years overdue as an update.
But seriously, where's the next codex? Or are they just done until 6th ed comes out?
40k gets an entire edition update this year and they are whining about releases? You get DA and CSM this year. Fantasy needs the love! Besides, afaik there will only be 3 fantasy releases this year: VC, Empire and WoC. for 40k it's 6th ed., DA and CSM. So it's about even.
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2012/03/27 01:38:14
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Manfred von Drakken wrote:Experiment 626 wrote:kenshin620 wrote:Well alright looks like these guys are almost ready to go. Be interesting to see how the army goes and if the usual build of big blocks of infantry with cannons everywhere will change (I doubt it, but Demigriffs might be a good choice for support)
I hope Lords other than Arch Lectors/Wizard Lords are worth anything
It's 8th edition. Internet "wisdom" decrees that when possible, you must always include a Lv4 wizard or you're doing it wrong!
There's no reason you can't currently take a Wizard Lord and a General of the Empire at the same time - they're cheap enough.
Thats not what the problem is
The problem is currently, there is NO reason tactically wise to bring a general (or grandmaster) in an army. Arch lectors bring in magic defense and a wizard lord is a lvl 3-4 wizard with one of 8 of the lores. Generals and Grandmasters can only be combat characters, poor ones at that
Also how come EVERY release topic always has someone on the other side saying "What? Game Y is getting updated? Wheres my game X update!" 
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2012/03/27 02:41:05
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Rampaging Chaos Russ Driver
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That is a terrible voice over on the video.
And no mention of halflings! Bah
According to video release date is 31st of March....
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2012/03/27 02:41:51
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Lord of the Fleet
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manoknok wrote:That is a terrible voice over on the video.
And no mention of halflings! Bah
According to video release date is 31st of March....
31st is when WD is out. It it will feature the new Empire as the focus
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2012/03/27 02:43:45
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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kenshin620 wrote:Manfred von Drakken wrote:Experiment 626 wrote:kenshin620 wrote:Well alright looks like these guys are almost ready to go. Be interesting to see how the army goes and if the usual build of big blocks of infantry with cannons everywhere will change (I doubt it, but Demigriffs might be a good choice for support)
I hope Lords other than Arch Lectors/Wizard Lords are worth anything
It's 8th edition. Internet "wisdom" decrees that when possible, you must always include a Lv4 wizard or you're doing it wrong!
There's no reason you can't currently take a Wizard Lord and a General of the Empire at the same time - they're cheap enough.
Thats not what the problem is
The problem is currently, there is NO reason tactically wise to bring a general (or grandmaster) in an army. Arch lectors bring in magic defense and a wizard lord is a lvl 3-4 wizard with one of 8 of the lores. Generals and Grandmasters can only be combat characters, poor ones at that
Sure there is: Generals are cheaper by 45 points, and one unit of State Troops can take a magic banner. Arch Lectors are only taken if you intend to bring the War Altar, which saves another 100. Generals are value Lords, who are there for the sole purpose of getting Leadership 9. And it doesn't matter if they're not good at combat: their job isn't to kill things, it's simply to not die.
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"There are no problems that cannot be solved with cannons." - Chief Engineer Boris Krauss of Nuln
LatheBiosas wrote:I have such a difficult time hitting my opponents... setting them on fire seems so much simpler.
Kid_Kyoto wrote:"Don't be a dick" and "This is a family wargame" are good rules of thumb.
DR:80S++G++M--B+IPwhfb01#+D+++A+++/fWD258R++T(D)DM+++
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2012/03/27 02:50:56
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Wow that video is of awful quality. Like it was made by some random high school kid messing around with Windows Movie Maker.
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2012/03/27 03:01:02
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Hopefully the flying Gryphon knights aren't true, god knows Bret still needs something to itself that's unique.
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2012/03/27 03:32:38
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Lord of the Fleet
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ZebioLizard2 wrote:Hopefully the flying Gryphon knights aren't true, god knows Bret still needs something to itself that's unique.
I think the Gryph Knights arent flying
They're Demigryphs
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2012/03/27 03:56:27
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) and next army books
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Kroothawk wrote:Finecast - Lots of goodies including order specific mages...
Uhh... supurfluous much?
I only play 40K and still know that there are 8 schools of Empire wizards, while that kit makes 4 of them. Pretty sure there is still room for the other four schools of wizards. The Wizard kit does make good Inquisition henchmen, as a side note.
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2012/03/27 03:57:41
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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I think the Gryph Knights arent flying
They're Demigryphs
Oh, interesting to say the least than.
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2012/03/27 05:17:14
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) and next army books
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
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MajorWesJanson wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:Kroothawk wrote:Finecast - Lots of goodies including order specific mages...
Uhh... supurfluous much?
I only play 40K and still know that there are 8 schools of Empire wizards, while that kit makes 4 of them. Pretty sure there is still room for the other four schools of wizards. The Wizard kit does make good Inquisition henchmen, as a side note.
It can make: Metal, Fire, Heavens, Death/Shadow, Life, Light and arguably Beasts depending on how you model it. That is 8 by my count. You have to realize that things like the Scythe can be used for several lores.
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2012/03/27 05:24:42
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) and next army books
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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MajorWesJanson wrote:I only play 40K and still know that there are 8 schools of Empire wizards, while that kit makes 4 of them. Pretty sure there is still room for the other four schools of wizards. The Wizard kit does make good Inquisition henchmen, as a side note.
Hm, judging by the pictures that kit makes Death, Heavens, Metal, Light, and Fire at the least. I'm not 100% sure on what shadow school mages are supposed to look like. The current kit might leave out the lore of beasts and life, which might be what the rumored wizard kits are?
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2012/03/27 05:49:54
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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The "Grey Wizards", if the artwork from the "Heraldry and Uniforms of the Empire" is reliable, look a lot like how Gandalf was portrayed in the Lord of the Rings movies.
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2012/03/27 06:32:47
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Crazed Bloodkine
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Hoping Ulric has a bigger role in the Empire army.
I already have a vision of Inner Circle White Wolf Knights riding Thunderwolves in place of the Demigryph things. Might get started this weekend.
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"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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2012/03/27 13:52:05
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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more from 'seer, shouts out to Mr.( I assume, apologies otherwise) Estel
Empire Army Book (ideal Premium/Hobby Account new release product) - Released 7th April
• 96p Full colour, Hardback Army Book.
• Essential guide to the Empire army including background, new rules, Army List, artwork and miniature gallery.
• Every Character and Unit in the Army Book is available to buy!
• Contains rules for brand new ‘never seen before’ miniatures.
Plastic Kits
Karl Franz on Deathclaw (ideal Premium/Hobby Account new release product) - Released 7th April
• This box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes one of THREE different models; Karl Franz on Deathclaw, Empire General on Griffon or Amber Wizard Lord on Griffon.
• Assembled kit is huge- 6” high and 9” wide.
• A centerpiece kit that will appeal to both gamers and modelers/painters alike.
• Kit contains lots of extra pieces i.e. Multiple Chest plates and heads for the Griffon and more.
Empire Celestial Hurricanum / Luminark of Hysh (ideal Premium/Hobby Account new release product) - Released 7th April
• This box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes one of Two different models; or the.
o The Celestial Hurricanum: A rare choice for the Empire Army or a mount for a Celestial Battle Wizard Lord.
o Enhances the armies fighting abilities, spell casting and can create enchanted storms!
Or
o Luminark of Hysh: A rare choice for the Empire Army or a mount for a Light Battle Wizard Lord.
o Creates a magical enchantment that protects nearby troops and helps disrupt enemy spell casting and can fire deadly beam of light at the enemy!
• A centerpiece kit that will appeal to both gamers and modelers/painters alike.
• Each kit contains lots of extra parts e.g. Light and Celestial Battle Wizard lords, Acolytes etc.
Volkmar the Grim on The War Altar of Sigmar (ideal Premium/Hobby Account new release product) - Released 7th April
• This box contains a multipart plastic kit that constructs the mighty War Altar of Sigmar.
• Standing 7” high it is a centerpiece kit that will appeal to both gamers and modelers/painters alike.
• The War Altar is a Lord choice as it can be a mount for either Volkmar or an Arch Lector.
Empire Demigryph Knights (ideal Premium/Hobby Account new release product) - Released 7th April
• This box contains enough multipart plastic pieces to assemble three Demigryph Knights- Elite Monstrous Cavalry that are a Special choice in the Empire Army Book.
• The kit allows you to model the rank and file Inner Circle Knights or a full command group or a mixture of both.
• The kit allows them to take lances or a cavalry Halberd.
Empire Master Engineer (ideal Premium/Hobby Account new release product) - Released 7th April
• Plastic Frame Clampack that contains one Master Engineer.
• The Master Engineer is a Hero Choice in the army.
• The Master Engineer is easy to assemble and can be assembled in different ways.
Captain of the Empire (ideal Premium/Hobby Account new release product) - Released 7th April
• Plastic Frame Clampack that contains one Captain of the Empire.
• The Captain of the Empire is a Hero Choice in the army.
• The Captain of the Empire is easy to assemble and comes with 2 heads to choose from.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2012/03/27 14:03:32
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Sooo... no new knights, then? Bugger.
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2012/03/27 14:31:03
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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Going give the book a good read through but if anyone is interested in starting empire you may want ot hit me up
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2012/03/27 14:46:40
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Awesome! Sounds like some very sexy plastic kits, and YAYYAYYAY about plastic clampack heroes and such.
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2012/03/27 14:51:16
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Regular Dakkanaut
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And the first pics from Anardakil in Warseer.
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2012/03/27 14:59:22
Subject: Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2012/03/27 15:01:16
Subject: Re:Some rumours on Empire (Fantasy) -- 3/26 teaser trailer
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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work blocked ho !
Also, good GOD is that a huge Griffon.
Demigryphs look terrible.
Double agree.
Rough job mucking out Deathclaw eh ?
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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