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Yellowbeard wrote: @GiraffeX: Didn't you post that picture in another thread? What is it with you and Sam? None taken. The idea of a hawk head is actually interesting. I'm not sure what the =][= would think about it, though....

No not guilty, its the first time I've managed to post a pic thats not uploaded to dakka. I think the =][= would burn you at the stake for heresy unless of course he's a primarch then its ok...

I would try my own version of the firehawk scheme to see what comes out but I'm not sure if I have any minis spare, I'll have a ferret round this weekend. Its a very interesting challenge I really like the FW scheme its just replicating it thats the hard part.


edit: how come when I google firehawk space marine in images it finds loads of Git's Mantis warriors, conspiracy I tell ya.

Yellowbeard wrote:@Ice: Like this?



That's a nice pose. Thanks for the suggestion! He may be too high still, but I can lower him some when I actually pin the pieces together.

That little piece of ruin has a ledge where it looks a window would have been. If you cut straight across there and made him jumping off the top piece after removing the botom, that'd be my suggestion. Sorry if that was a lot of work to illustrate my design.

YB -- finished my mock up. Took some pictures, unfortunately they all came out very poorly. so I'll try again tonight.

SL

@veteran sergeant: Thanks, mate! Good to see you around here again. I may try that, move the helmet back some. The problem is that when it is cut off the back pack, it has a flat edge. So, I need to figure out some way to round off the helment in back... and make it shorter... and make it wider.

@GiraffeX: Sorry about that, then. I swear someone posted that exact image in another thread I read. Oh well. I would love to see your take on the Fire Hawks. Feel free to post a pic here if you get a chance to paint one up!

GireaffeX wrote:how come when I google firehawk space marine in images it finds loads of Git's Mantis warriors, conspiracy I tell ya.

Yeah, did you notice that Gits also painted up a Fire Hawk and that he's working on the Legion of the Damned now. Coincidence?

Seriously, though, Gits has helped me tremendously, so I'm happy to see more of his work pop up!

@Gits: Forgot to do close-ups. Damn! Sorry about that.

@Ice: Thanks! I see what you're suggesting. That would certainly reduce the amount of stuff on the base, which I see now might distract a little from the figure.

@SL: Thanks!

Speaking of SL, Solar_lion stopped by the other day with a gift:





Check out those falmes! Thanks, man!

This is quite a nice color scheme that comes very close to the IA scheme, without the orange-ish tinge.



The photos are a little redder than in person. The second one - of the marine's back - probably shows the true color best. It's also a fairly simple scheme to do, so I think I can handle it. Just need to get one pot of paint, and I can give it a try....

SL has a great scheme there. I would try to emulate it and roll on !

Wow, that's a nice colour scheme there!

That does indeed look tasty; mind if I jump on this bandwagon too?

Cool stuff solar lion. I can't wait to see an entire army of them!

Looks like SL nailed it!

Thanks.. I just was trying get my idea on a figure. Easier to do than trying to explain it in writing. I think the marine is actually a wee bit darker ( on the rust side ) than these pictures look IMO. I think its the bright camera lights that are making it so.

The only thing I would have done differently is to use a lighter yellow layer on the shoulders to lighten the center.
( and do the boots in the yellow - sloppy workmanship ~ sigh~ )

Really, thou this is just my version of the Firehawks ( actually more IA's than mine) . Feel free to do what you think looks best. No ego here. Do something your gonna like painting a lot of. Let me know when you got it and when your ready to borrow the AB.

SL

Those are some great flames

LOving the concept idea of Lazaraek, but I do think the hawk head is mounted a but high and slightly narrow, Have you considered cutting the helm in half lengthways and widening it with GS a little?
Of course that is just my opinion though. Overall it looks great.

I attached a pic of a scibor model with a hawk head, as an idea too although it is an expensive way of acquiring a helmet lol.

Score! My FLGS carries Vallejo Panzer Aces paints! They're the only Vallejo paints they carry, but it means they had the paint I needed.

@eldartau & Elnibbus: Indeed it is, and that was also my thought.

Mr. Delicious wrote:That does indeed look tasty

@Graven: By all means! I'd love to see your take on the Fire Hawks. The more the merrier!

@Ice: Me, too! Oh, wait... I'm supposed to be doing the painting.

@Gits:

@SL: Thanks, again! It's really very helpful! yeah, the photos are a little too red; the model itself is a little more brown/rust. I think the boots look fine. Sure, the picture I posted has yellowish boots (maybe fading into bone or ash), but I don't think all the pictures are painted that way. There seems to be quite a bit of indiiduality among the FH, one of the things I like about them. Right now, I like this scheme a lot. I also like the darker duller yellow. I think that might transfer well to the vets I want to do. Now I just need some time to paint!

@tipios: Indeed! Someday, I hope to do stuff like that.

@dantay_xv: Thanks for checking out my blog! And thanks for the comment on Lazaerek. I'm glad you like the idea. Gits suggested splitting the helmet, too. I might be able to do that. (My modeling skills are still pretty basic.). But as Gits pointed out, it should really be a wedge, as the beak should still come to a point. I'm not sure I can pull that off. SL also suggested the Scibor heads. I like them, though initially I thought they might be too Egyptian. But the more I've thought about them, the more I like them, so I will probably get a couple to see how they look. Thanks for the suggestions! I really appreciate all the feedback I can get!

No worries, what did you use for the helm, was it the vents from the commander backpack?

If so I would advise, cutting lengthwise through to te beak then a very (very) shallow angled cut like a Y. If you mess up one side, don't worry as you can repeat it on the other backpack vent
Glue at the beak, so you have a small open V shape at the back which you can fill in with GS.. maybe makthe back ever so slightly rounded like the very back of a SM helmet.

A small half circle on the underside to fit it in to the armour and you are done.... The only other thing to make it look a bit more natural would be to maybe try lowering the front collar a little, as I think part of the problem is extending the neck up and over it, maybe like -v- by removing the blood drop in the centre. I know this is sounding hyper critical, but the concept and the execution is great, I really like where you have taken it.

Excellent plan. I think you should have a Paint a Fire Hawk and send it to me contest. That way you'll have a army in no time.

Wait... Paint a squad of Fire Hawks....Priceless.

There is that YB.... even though you have yet to paint a Fire Hawk yourself, you're inspiring others to do so. That's a good thing! Now just convince everyone to send them to you (as has been suggested) and you're on Easy Street!

I am going to pm you some GK pics tonight, I am finally settled!

eldartau1987 wrote:I am going to pm you some GK pics tonight, I am finally settled!

NO NO.. Fire Hawks.. your not gonna win the contest with GK's.

SL ( this message is not designed to cure or prevent any disease, Fire Hawks shown are not intened to represent any actual Firehawks living, dead or undead. Use product as intended. Never use a fire hawk as a dental drill, always use caution when putting a Fire Hawk near open flame or next to a Mantis Warrior as this has been to cause rash and in most cases internal bleeding. Use caution with collecting Fire hawks as you may see a sudden decrease in disposable income. See MSDS sheet for more information)

on the subject of the hawk head, why dont you sculpt it on the beaky marine head??
ill add a pic once mspaint starts working with me

*edit*
kind of like this:

Solar_lion wrote:

eldartau1987 wrote:I am going to pm you some GK pics tonight, I am finally settled!

NO NO.. Fire Hawks.. your not gonna win the contest with GK's.

SL ( this message is not designed to cure or prevent any disease, Fire Hawks shown are not intened to represent any actual Firehawks living, dead or undead. Use product as intended)

you have got me on this. Let me dig around and see if I can paint a firehawk!

Oh heck... now I'm going to have to paint a *second* Fire Hawk as my "entry". Bloody SL...

I'm going for a jumpy one. Huzzah - yellowbeard's incited a one-man gms!

Contest?

Sure... painting a Fire Hawk and sending it to YB gets you your entry.... winner either chosen by YB or popular acclaim, YB has to come up with the prize.

Done and done. Next??

Seriously? i'm so in it's not funny :-)

I'll put up the prize since I kinda started it.

In pursuit of the perfect painting scheme. Git and I have put together the first “ Paint a Fire Hawk “ SM contest. This all in getting good painting formulas for our friend Yellowbeard!

Rules
Must be a single figure, No veh,, ect No special characters ect.
Must be sent to YB.
Must contain the painting formula.
Must be a Fire Hawk. no counts as a fire hawk looks like a DA! Golden Demon winners is encouraged!

YB is the decider, I am ineligible.
Prize value not more than $50 not less than $25 ( free shipping) . I have lots of stuff I can give away!

Contest closes… ? Rules subect to change depending on feedback from YB and most importantly Gits ( As the Nerd Amb. )

Check out YB thread for more FIRE HAWKS.

SL

Sounds fine to me.

So... we're just kind of cramming this down YB's throat, right? He doesn't actually get a say in the matter... it's just kind of happening... with or without him.

It's so crazy I might have a go!!!

Emotional or spiritual problem with it...? ahhh nope. Besides he's had 20 minutes to respond, like they say in business. Silence is consent! ( I'll regret saying that someday!) Besides I'm thinking of making BriancJ my moral compass anyway!

Yeah.. if nothing else he'll get some cool ideas and different takes on the IA scheme. Besides what are fellow warders for if not for helping out when you don't know about it!

Still it'll be based on his prefrence. The DAKKA community is always been good sports and some of the most generous people in the game. All in fun, but with a prize!

SL

Let me see what I can throw together!