Mantic Kings of War Kickstarter - Completed! - 20 new plastic units and 8 new characters are funded!

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**Alpharius**

It sure looks as if you'll get 6 Werewolves for $26, though confirmation (and pictures of actual models!) would be nice...

**Eldarain**

It seems odd there is such a small difference between the Dwarf armies offered at $100 and $175.

**crapshot**

@ Eldarain

Hmmms Yeah that is quiet werid.... they dont seem to of though of that one as much.

Btw out of curisosity are you pledging?

( im just curious to see what people on here are pledging for!)

**Eldarain**

crapshot wrote:@ Eldarain

Hmmms Yeah that is quiet werid.... they dont seem to of though of that one as much.

Btw out of curisosity are you pledging? ( im just curious to see what people on here are pledging for!)

I'm going to be doing the $110 one as well as additional 2 for 1 Ogres.

**crapshot**

@Eldarain
Ohh awesome!, the ogres look pretty damm awesome,
Im currently thinking of getting the $100... but the $125 is tempting ... its hard to choose! xD

**lord marcus**

Just pledged 35. meager budget allowing i may up it later, but thats all I can afford at the moment.

**Stanley Rubric**

I've upped my pledge to $200. I wanted the 1,000 pt Orc army, but I really want those Ogres too. I hope they hit $50,000 'cause that Orc Chariot/Wagon kit sounds awesome.

**lord marcus**

They are just about to hit 37k.

**Azazelx**

Alpharius wrote:It sure looks as if you'll get 6 Werewolves for $26, though confirmation (and pictures of actual models!) would be nice...

Pretty straightforward on the KS page, and I imagine the issue with the pics of the actual werewolves is that they're not yet sculpted.

Enter your pledge amount
It's up to you.
Any amount of $1 or more.
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We've got some great additional items available to you at a special price. To add optional items just increase your pledge by the appropriate amount and we'll sort out the details after the Kickstarter ends by sending you a survey.:
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Buy one, get one free:
Undead Werewolves (Plastic, 3 Models) - $25

ACHIEVED - We will bring forwards production of our Undead Werewolves. If you've purchased a set in the Special Extras and we break through $10000, we'll give you a second set free, and then we can start doing some really mad stuff!

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lord marcus wrote:They are just about to hit 37k.

They should have had a stretch goal at 40k.

**Schmapdi**

Eldarain wrote:It seems odd there is such a small difference between the Dwarf armies offered at $100 and $175.

I never noticed before - but that does seem like a mistake. Someone should mention it and I bet they'd straighten it out right away - I mean the orc set goes from 50 orcs and 10 cavalry to 80 orcs and 20 cavalry. (plus two big orc metal characters). The dwarf set goes from 85 dwarves to ... 90 dwarves. (plus two much smaller dwarf characters). It has to be a mistake. Because two dwarf characters and 5 plastic dwarves surely aren't worth $75.

**Liquidice281**

Doesn't this kind of defeat the purpose of kick starter? All these successful big businesses using it to gain capital ruins the concept of the small start ups that it is made for.

**Alfndrate**

Liquidice281 wrote:Doesn't this kind of defeat the purpose of kick starter? All these successful big businesses using it to gain capital ruins the concept of the small start ups that it is made for.

Actually it doesn't, look at other "big" corporations like Double Fine (Tim Schaffer's video game company), Steve Jackson Games, and a few others. If you have a project and you want to find people who are interested in said project, then you go to kickstarter. KS is great like that because it helps the little guy and the slightly bigger guy. Not everyone has enough money to play around with an idea.

I'm watching this with great interest, as my Vampire Counts army will probably be made entirely of Mantic figs, so I'm pretty excited.

**Azazelx**

It is what it is. It appears that KS has no rules preventing small companies like Mantic from using it to raise some capital. (6 full-time employees isn't exactly big or successful - though they're punching above their weight in terms of awareness.)

A lot of these small startup or even decently established miniatures companies and games fail as well. - Rackham, Starship Troopers, L5R, AT-43, Target Games (Warzone, Chronopia) If this helps Mantic to survive and grow, then I'm all for it.

**Dysartes**

There was a shipping FAQ in their last newsletter, which doesn't seem to have made it onto the Kickstarter page for some reason:

Mantic Newsletter wrote:Shipping FAQ
Will I have to wait until next year to get my book and figures if I pledge at a level that includes a new model released in 2013?
We will ship pledges in two parts if there are new releases involved. This means that you'll get your Rulebook and all models currently in the range in one package first and then the new models once they've been made.

Example - With Veteran, you will receive the Hardback Rulebook in July and the Werewolves and Ogres in early 2013.

Can I have my pledge shipped with an order placed on your website to save on shipping costs?
Absolutely - please email us and we will ship it out all together.

Do I have to pay any postage?
Postage to the US and Europe is free. There is a small $15 shipping charge when shipping internationally.

**Pacific**

Liquidice281 wrote:Doesn't this kind of defeat the purpose of kick starter? All these successful big businesses using it to gain capital ruins the concept of the small start ups that it is made for.

Go back to the first few pages of the thread, this has already been discussed and answered at length!

I guess the '40,000' would P a lot of people off, not least of all GW (where I believe Ronnie was pretty well liked, so I doubt he would want to deliberately be flippant towards his old work mates).

**bd1085**

Just read through the rules, armies, and overview of the armies.

Contributing what I can.

**Eldarain**

Schmapdi wrote:
Eldarain wrote:It seems odd there is such a small difference between the Dwarf armies offered at $100 and $175.

I never noticed before - but that does seem like a mistake. Someone should mention it and I bet they'd straighten it out right away - I mean the orc set goes from 50 orcs and 10 cavalry to 80 orcs and 20 cavalry. (plus two big orc metal characters). The dwarf set goes from 85 dwarves to ... 90 dwarves. (plus two much smaller dwarf characters). It has to be a mistake. Because two dwarf characters and 5 plastic dwarves surely aren't worth $75.

Apparently it is not a mistake.

Mantic Games wrote:
Mantic Games says:

Hi Eldarain,

Nice spot! It's not actually a typo - it just seems like the Dwarf Army box is a really good deal! We do a range of army sets that includes a large number of miniatures, and then we worked out 1000 point for Kings of War for each race - it seems like the dwarf set is about 1000 points worth of stuff and therefore a steal of a deal!

If you're looking to get into Dwarfs, looks like the $100 might be the way to go

Thanks very much,

**Schmapdi**

Wow - that is weird. Dwarves must be pricey in game terms. I guess get the $100 set and buy the characters/extras seperately and get a lot more for your money!

**lord marcus**

45 k mark passed

**frozenwastes**

I must admit, when I see the orcs/goblins pooring out of those little dome huts, it makes me want to start an army.

**lord marcus**

And the TK assasin in the doorway.

**frozenwastes**

Yeah. That orc is so dead. You really can't invite strangers into your huts. Just not safe these days. They might be twilight kin in a goblin suit.

**Eldarain**

I think the thing I like best about the ruleset is that units accrue damage points as the game goes on as opposed to removing casualties.

It will actually encourage the creation and use of unit sized dioramas. It would be a hell of a lot of fun to make a horde sized unit of Orcs or Goblins Scrapping amongst themselves.

**lord marcus**

Eldarain wrote:I think the thing I like best about the ruleset is that units accrue damage points as the game goes on as opposed to removing casualties.

It will actually encourage the creation and use of unit sized dioramas. It would be a hell of a lot of fun to make a horde sized unit of Orcs or Goblins Scrapping amongst themselves.

And it also eliminates the need to see hours of painting being packed or put to the side as models "die".

**scarletsquig**

Eldarain wrote:I think the thing I like best about the ruleset is that units accrue damage points as the game goes on as opposed to removing casualties.

It will actually encourage the creation and use of unit sized dioramas. It would be a hell of a lot of fun to make a horde sized unit of Orcs or Goblins Scrapping amongst themselves.

It speeds up the game so much! You can play a game of Kings of War in a third of the time it takes to play a Warhammer game of a similar size once you're familiar with the rules.

Whole-unit bases are quite popular, a lot of people turn the unit into a big diorama, or just use the flexibility to make the models look like a more realistic group of soldiers rather than having them all in rows and column within the unit., here's a good example:

**darkPrince010**

Btw, I've seen those huts before, and while I can't remember the name of the company, I can tell you they come prepainted like that in case you're somewhat brush-shy.

**Duncan_Idaho**

Those are Grendel huts, at least they produced such huts in the past.

@Scarlet
nice scheme, are there more pictures of it?

**scarletsquig**

^ Sure thing, they're Hybrid Alpha's Undead. Here's a link:

http://forum.manticblog.com/showthread.php?1092-Kings-of-War-Raising-the-dead

**Piston Honda**

darkPrince010 wrote:Btw, I've seen those huts before, and while I can't remember the name of the company, I can tell you they come prepainted like that in case you're somewhat brush-shy.

scroll down a bit

http://www.flamesofwar.com/gf9online_store.aspx?CategoryID=13170

**LunaHound**

What is it about GW that people are willing to take risk of $26 for 1 finecast figure,
and yet have such trepidation from 6 never seeing werewolves for same price?