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This vehicle will be awesome!

Trodaí na Bás Chaos Space Marines - 1800 points (W0, D0, L1) ○ Easterlings, Harad and Khand - 2000 points (W0, D0, L0) ○ Circle Orboros - 30 points (W3, D0, L6) ○ Wood Elves - 1000 points (WIP) ○ Mordor - about 650 ○ Arnor - about 400
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 ExNoctemNacimur wrote:
This vehicle will be awesome!


Thanks again. Long way to go yet, I just hope I can do the paint job up to a suitable standard. I have a few plans floating about for that but will have to see when I get there.


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The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Progress on engine number 2. Pipes and booster/turbo done.


Smoothing and tidying to do obviously, but waiting for putty to set again.

Next up is the wires etc...


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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6 foot underwater

Looks good....bring on da wirez....

cyborks & flyboyz : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300067.page
heretical ramblings : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/302773.page
imperial preachings : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/303365.page
Da Waaagh-ky Races : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/325045.page
Briancj: You have the Mek Taint, MT, and the only thing we can do is watch in horror/amazement.

 
   
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Thanks MT. Wirez added. Painting next up...



Not sure which engine I prefer as yet. Will have to see after painting.

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The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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What an awesome thread! I read all the fluff, quite funny in some places and distinctly weird overall. One of the more original inspirations for building an army I've seen in a long time, almost Rogue Trader-ish in composition.

The Falcon looks like a cross between a Looted Wagon and redneck ingenuity. I especially appreciated the attempt at a sound system and the freehand naked lady on the wall.

Lots of good stuff going on here. It's refreshing to see someone modeling for the sake of modeling and not so concerned w/ the application. I have to admit I don't do that very much anymore.

Subbed and will be back!

 
   
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 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
What an awesome thread! I read all the fluff, quite funny in some places and distinctly weird overall. One of the more original inspirations for building an army I've seen in a long time, almost Rogue Trader-ish in composition.

The Falcon looks like a cross between a Looted Wagon and redneck ingenuity. I especially appreciated the attempt at a sound system and the freehand naked lady on the wall.

Lots of good stuff going on here. It's refreshing to see someone modeling for the sake of modeling and not so concerned w/ the application. I have to admit I don't do that very much anymore.

Subbed and will be back!

Thanks Skalk Glad you enjoyed it. and welcome to the (Mad) house.
Yeah, you can probably tell I'm not taking the fluff seriously. I'm serious about not being serious, except when I'm serious...
It's good to know my sense of humour is not lost on everyone, It's makes me laugh anyway.

I also sneak in references to things such as films, computer games, etc... into my fluff, so cake to anyone who spots them... On that thought, I have assembled all my fluff to date in an army article here on DDakka. It's mostly what has been shown here on this blog but easier to read through and with a few spelling and grammar corrections (Damn you Dyslexia).

I missed Rouge Trader when it was happening even though I was aware of Space Marines etc at the time (I did many drawings) but I was in the world of Airfix models and saw it as just a game and I was more interested in making models. But I have now found the modelling side of this hobby and intend to push it to the limits.
I take that as a big compliment, thanks.

I was thinking the other day that what I'm doing and what I have planned for my vehicles is very "looted wagon", But I aim to keep things working as they would or with minor changes, rules-wise.

You have no idea how much went into that sound-system, you can't really see in the picture but there is a heat-sink on the top that was made from thin pieces of plastic glued on one at a time. It will be used in the future.
Yeah I'm still very pleased with how she turned out. There will be more, though not always so naked...

Thanks again. As I said at the start, I'm a modeller first and what you do (making models to a high standard that are usable in game) is very inspirational. I do intend the army to be usable in the game and at some point I will complete some kind of Codex:The (Mad) Scientist's Army (which is what the fluff article was meant to be the start of) and I do have notes and details for each of the completed models so far, but the rules need more work and many decisions need to be made as to what to keep and what to change. I will keep people updated on here when something is ready to be released. Although I am happy to discuss things if people have questions.

and I'm spent Why are my replies always so much longer then what people say???
Carry on people.

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The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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 Dr H wrote:
Why are my replies always so much longer then what people say???


Because we're simply the fans of your work. Your responsibility is ensuring we have a clear understanding of it (be that as it may) and that takes explanation of minutia sometimes.

And I do understand. Every time I update one of my main threads I feel the excitement of seeing my thread bumped with a comment , and then the deflation of finding the post is a single word like "cool!". That said, I truly do appreciate the fact that someone actually took the time to post instead of just lurk. It's especially cool when the same people post, it shows a genuine interest.

Hope this reply took at least 20 seconds of your day to read.



 
   
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 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
 Dr H wrote:
Why are my replies always so much longer then what people say???


Because we're simply the fans of your work. Your responsibility is ensuring we have a clear understanding of it (be that as it may) and that takes explanation of minutia sometimes.

And I do understand. Every time I update one of my main threads I feel the excitement of seeing my thread bumped with a comment , and then the deflation of finding the post is a single word like "cool!". That said, I truly do appreciate the fact that someone actually took the time to post instead of just lurk. It's especially cool when the same people post, it shows a genuine interest.

Hope this reply took at least 20 seconds of your day to read.



Cool. As long as I am making sense and not just rambling on incoherently.
I'm used to people IRL looking at me with a glazed look on their face when I go off on one about science stuff, so it's nice to discuss something with people that know what I'm talking about.

I'm still very new at the whole blog thing, so I get excited when a few more people just look at my blog and very excited that someone has (as you say) taken the time to say anything. Feedback about something specific is therefore even more awesome...
It's good to know that you are heading in the right direction with something and others like it.

But I do appreciate that sometimes when reading someone's blog you can't think of anything constructive to say and being the tenth (or even the first) to say "wow cool" just doesn't feel right. I like to say more when I do post on someone's thread, so I do lurk on many threads without saying anything for a long time, but if I have an idea or comment I will stick my oar in (as you well know Skalk).

And then there's the feeling that you are not as good or accomplished as the owner of the thread or others that post there and your comment is therefore not worth the electrons it's written on. But we're all in this together and can all learn something from everyone else whatever the skill level and you may have just spotted something that noone else has.

Yeah, it took longer than 20 seconds to read, because I read it about 3 times before even thinking about replying.

There's me off again... time to read through my reply again, just to be sure before hitting submit.


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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6 foot underwater

Cool

cyborks & flyboyz : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300067.page
heretical ramblings : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/302773.page
imperial preachings : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/303365.page
Da Waaagh-ky Races : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/325045.page
Briancj: You have the Mek Taint, MT, and the only thing we can do is watch in horror/amazement.

 
   
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Thank you Monkeytroll for your indispensable input to the discussion...


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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6 foot underwater

My pleasure Doc....glad to help out wherever I can

cyborks & flyboyz : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300067.page
heretical ramblings : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/302773.page
imperial preachings : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/303365.page
Da Waaagh-ky Races : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/325045.page
Briancj: You have the Mek Taint, MT, and the only thing we can do is watch in horror/amazement.

 
   
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[quote=Dr H}And then there's the feeling that you are not as good or accomplished as the owner of the thread or others that post there and your comment is therefore not worth the electrons it's written on. But we're all in this together and can all learn something from everyone else whatever the skill level and you may have just spotted something that no one else has.


Oh man. Wow. That. That right there. There are a few threads I follow on Dakka that make me feel like the little kid on his Big Wheel telling the huge Harley guys that their bikes are cool. They are, but I feel like the bikers could not give a snort about my opinion. that is not necessarily how they are, but it is how I feel. I've stopped posting on a few threads that are so above and beyond my ability simple because I have nothing pertinent or useful to add, I just stare at it slack-jawed and drooling and my posts look like the giggling of a smitten schoolgirl.

Until they seem like people instead of aloof rock stars, that is. monkeytroll used to intimidate me a lot even though he was one of the first people that got involved on my threads. After a while I really started to 'know' him (as much as anyone ever knows anyone here outside of RL) and have enjoyed the camaraderie ever since. His stuff is still amazing to me and I would have to take a significant leap forward to match his skill, but he's a 'real person' now, a fellow modeler, someone I can share opinions with, even critique.

I've always tried to make myself approachable and 'real' right from the start. And apparently it is working.

 
   
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That's why I started a blog on here, to discuss and learn more about modelling. The models I've made in the past were always a solitary thing as I've not met anyone IRL that shares the hobby. Not that it bothered me. It's nice to find like-minded people, but there's not much of a community around straight military models like there is around gaming miniatures.

But while searching the internet for inspiration as I was starting with these figures I was always getting hits here on DDakka. So when I had something to share I joined up and started to look about mostly the P&M blogs for good modellers.

Then you have another problem where you find that there are small groups of people here that hang out on each others threads and it can feel like you're barging in to a private conversation if you join in. It was like that for me with the LoER until it clicked in my head that this is a public conversation and if you didn't want others joining in then you can have the conversation in private. So I got my oar out and stuck it in a few places.
And generally, you find that most of the people on here are quite happy to have someone new to share ideas with and are very welcoming.

I especially like threads like your's Skalk (and MT ) where you try new things and experiment for everyone to see. You can always learn a lot more from something that didn't work and can be solved (by yourself or with help from the community) then from something that worked fine first time, or is presented as a complete piece (pretty as some of them are).

I'm sure there was something else I was going to say, but it's gone now.


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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6 foot underwater

Shufferin' shuffercats...never saw myself as intimidating Skalk... Glad you got over that


I think the groups that hang out on each other's threads comes from a variety of things....often it's because they're doing similar things, sometimes it's because they find they have common interests, sometimes for the banter, sometimes just because....

But Dakka is definitely a community, and helps push peeps that little bit more in their work...I'm certainly concious of having to up my game because of contributions from others...
It's that stuff which keeps people here I think...or at least here in the P&M section, which is where I tend to stay...

cyborks & flyboyz : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300067.page
heretical ramblings : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/302773.page
imperial preachings : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/303365.page
Da Waaagh-ky Races : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/325045.page
Briancj: You have the Mek Taint, MT, and the only thing we can do is watch in horror/amazement.

 
   
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Oh yeah, absolutely. People will always form groups for one reason or another, it's only natural.

Yeah, I've definitely pushed myself further than I would have because of what I've seen on here.

It's all good.


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Update! Engine number 2 is painted.


As intended, similar but different from engine number 1.


From the outside. Any differences you see here are purely an optical illusion...honest.


From the inside.

Next up...I'm not sure, possibly cockpit... Need to look at the order of assembly first and have a think about what further modifications I'm actually going to make and then how to go about it.

C&C welcome. Which is your favourite engine? Still not sure myself.


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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NZ

looking awesome Doc.
can i recommend shining down the metal with a wash like nuln oil? it would shade the metal and give it an oily look.

but the modelling on that model is impressive. can"t wait to see more.

keep it up.


 
   
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da waaagh orkz wrote:
looking awesome Doc.
can i recommend shining down the metal with a wash like nuln oil? it would shade the metal and give it an oily look.

but the modelling on that model is impressive. can"t wait to see more.

keep it up.



Welcome back da waaagh and thanks.

You can, and I do intend to give the metals a black wash to deepen the shadows etc.



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Quickie update.
I have washed the engines with black, and have tinted (very very subtle) the blades blue and I've added the rear hatch as that was a quick and easy job.
I have a new phone, so am trying out the camera. It may take a while to find the best settings for pictures, or a may revert to the old phone as just a camera depending on what people prefer.


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The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
Made in nz
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NZ

Cool that is looking much better.
Cannot wait to see the rest of it!

 
   
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Thanks da waaagh.

Update.
Well, what I suspected of the chin turret was correct. As it was, it wouldn't be able to fire sideways without shooting itself or shooting downwards. I read somewhere on DDakka that it's supposed to have a 180degree firing arc and therefore something needed to be done.

I carefully cut the shuriken cannon from the attachment clip and then with the help of sprue, some thin plastic and some putty, I lowered the gun relative to the attachment point and...



It can now fire to the side in a horizontal orientation.
I may add a little more detailing to it, but job accomplished.


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Today I put together the pilot for the waveserpent.
Now, I like the pilot that comes in the box for the purpose but I'm going to find another use for him and decided to add a bit of "grim" to the model.

It's not the best of pictures, I'll take a better one once I'm happy that I've finished with him.
But for now, what do you guys and gals think?

Look at his little happy face... he is happy, isn't he??? Must be, just doesn't show it well.


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Hamburg Germany

Reminds me of the remark about predator tanks in yon olden RT compendium, where it was stated that tank crews were often wired into their machines as a penalty until they redeemed themselves...
Good to see that the good doctor shows a sense for tradition!
   
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 Hruotland wrote:
Reminds me of the remark about predator tanks in yon olden RT compendium, where it was stated that tank crews were often wired into their machines as a penalty until they redeemed themselves...
Good to see that the good doctor shows a sense for tradition!


Lol. Good to know I can keep to traditions that I don't know about. I'm liking the comparisons between my stuff and the RT era.

This chap isn't going anywhere without the tank as he is literally just a head.
Wait until you see what I have planned for the Predator I have sat beside me...there's much more space inside one of them.

Glad you like it.


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Better pictures of the pilot.

From all angles.


and as he will be situated. Doesn't he look happy there...see that cheeky grin...

I think it's about time I looked at making some large holes in the hull...

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The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Progress on the engine covers.
"Engine covers?" I hear you say. "this model didn't come with any kind of engine covers, it didn't have any engines to cover"

Well it does now.


Engine number 1.



Engine number 2.

Not quite finished yet and I think they will take a lot more work for something so simple.
I want them to
a) sit flush with the surface
b) not fall off easily
c) have very little gap all round the edge, and that gap to be consistent
d) maintain the channels that were there originally.

But this gives you an idea of where I'm going.
Let me know what you think.


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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The pilot hardwired into the cockpit mainframe is disturbing to look and even more so to think of it in a literal sense.

Well done, sir.

The engines are excellent! You asked for an opinion on engine 1 or engine 2, and I vote for both. The inconsistencies between each engine is perfectly consistent with the overall inconsistency of your entire project. Ha.

I recommend either hinging the covers or magnetizing them. The engine underneath is too cool to cover up permanently, and hinging or magnetization would address the 'falling off' issue.

 
   
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 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
The pilot hardwired into the cockpit mainframe is disturbing to look and even more so to think of it in a literal sense.

Well done, sir.

Oh, good. That is what I was going for.
I did try to do a small piece of cloth tied round his neck (to catch the dribbles/drool) to make him look really pathetic. That is in addition to his head being slightly to one side. But I couldn't pull it off realistically as there wasn't enough room under his chin.

The engines are excellent! You asked for an opinion on engine 1 or engine 2, and I vote for both. The inconsistencies between each engine is perfectly consistent with the overall inconsistency of your entire project. Ha.

er... good. At least that shows I managed to get them to the same level.

I recommend either hinging the covers or magnetizing them. The engine underneath is too cool to cover up permanently, and hinging or magnetization would address the 'falling off' issue.

Now, that is the thing. I did think about hinges, and it would be nice. But I can't make it with the hinge inside the doors as it's too close to the engine at the top and lower hull at the bottom (which would stop the door opening or break something off the engine) and I'm a little adverse to putting the hinge on the outside as it would break the sleekness of the vehicle.
At the moment I have added (very thin) pins at the bottom that holds the doors in place. But that comes away with the door (on purpose) so only works to hold the doors on and not as a hinge.

Would a big ugly hinge at the bottom of the door (above those large side vents) look wrong? You have me thinking about it again...

and Thanks Skalk.


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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I think a big ol' ugly hinge would look completely 'wrong', and therefore perfect for the mad scientist's work...

   
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Geometry looks like you should be able to place the hinge at the front seam. The cutout should just move over the inlet when opening.
   
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prototype_X wrote:I think a big ol' ugly hinge would look completely 'wrong', and therefore perfect for the mad scientist's work...

I think you guys are right. I had a think about it last night and have an idea for hinges.
I think I'll try a few designs though and see what looks best.

Hruotland wrote:Geometry looks like you should be able to place the hinge at the front seam. The cutout should just move over the inlet when opening.

Are you thinking of on the curved bit or the straight bit below the inlet?
There's lots of subtle curves over the hull that could make certain positions much more complicated than others.
I shall also look at a few different placements of said hinges.

Thanks people.
Keep your eyes peeled for more later...


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
 
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