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It never occurred to any of you that they just made up the deep striking land raider bit? You're like children.

I have no major issue with Deep Striking Landraiders in game terms. I just want to know how they're doing it. Are they dropping them out of planes like in the new A-Team trailer or are they teleporting in from orbit? Either way, it seems daft.

EDIT - Oh and those two guys in the video above, they should have their own show. Warhammer Prime Time or something ;

It's the new weapon for apocalypse. Imperator Titans that shoot Blood Angel filled Land Raiders.

It's been done.

As a Blood Angel player since 1997, it fills my heart with joy to see the overreactions sweeping the interwebz. I remember when the 3rd edition Blood Angels book came out and literally almost a third of the Toronto GT that year consisted of BA players. Next year the Eldar were out and all those BA players had switched to fielding multiple wraithlords. I was still playing my Blood Angels. (I fought 9 Emperor-damned Wraithlords that year in 5 games... grrr)

My point? No matter how broken you think something is now, eventually you get used to it and learn to deal with it. There will always be something else that comes up that becomes 'the new cheese'.

For my money, this codex sounds awesome. I'm SO excited to have new models for my army. Plus, I can't be acused of being a flavour of the month, since I'm still playing with 2nd edition marines and their matchbox rhinos painted BA RED (orange)!

My only thought on the workings of a deep striking landraider would be a land raider detaching from a thunderhawk carried down to the planet surface. Correct me if I'm wrong but is there not a thunderhawk from FW that dose that? Maybe in game terms this means that the landraider is dropped from the a low flying thunderhawk.

Man, why would I ever play Codex Marines again. They seem to have everything codex has, and more.

I guess I'm lucky my guys are red, and are already called /Blood/ Ravens

Chamleoneyes wrote:My only thought on the workings of a deep striking landraider would be a land raider detaching from a thunderhawk carried down to the planet surface. Correct me if I'm wrong but is there not a thunderhawk from FW that dose that? Maybe in game terms this means that the landraider is dropped from the a low flying thunderhawk.

Other than this one?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/SPACE_MARINE_AIRCRAFT.html

Been playing BA since they were just painted red marines in the Rogue Trader book. This will finally wipe away the stain of the .pdf codex once and for all.

Very exciting!

Green Blow Fly wrote:

reds8n wrote:

Green Blow Fly wrote:The one in the picture is the old model.

No it isn't, despite how often you keep repeating this.

I reckon you owe someone a...... battleforce was it ?

I suggested a Dev squad... then it fell through. Anyways I would love to see some real proof the Baal in the picture is the new all plastic crack model.

G

It didnt fell through , i settled for devastator. We are now just waiting for the release to confirm.

Da Boss wrote:Therion is just doing what Therion always does.

Indeed. There are people who love to think every new codex or army book is the new greatest thing untill proven otherwise (normally within 4 weeks of release), and there are those who believe that every book GW releases is no match for the current undeniable top tier cheese untill proven otherwise. It's funny how these things go. In the rumour phase and in the honeymoon phase a codex is often thought to be overpowered or at the very least awesome, and when people realise it's not the codex all of the sudden becomes totally unplayable garbage untill it becomes playable again because a proven player managed to win a GT with it.

When you see ravening madmen frothing at the mouth and screaming the end has come and that the new king of cheese has once again arrived, a healthy bit of scepticism is recommended.

So is there really not going to be a model for the StormRaven, or should we start a competition on who can make the best scratchbuilt/converted SR?

Any pics of what their concept drawing looks like?

There isn't a concept drawing. There is nothing in the entire book that even resembles something that might be a stormraven. It's a pretty sweet entry but it is competing with dreads (which the 2xTLAC Dread is 5pts. cheaper than in the other dexes) and with devastators who have the same cost on ML's and LC's as the Wolves and 15pt plasma cannons. There is actually a lot of competition in each slot of the force org. I personally can't wait for this list. Oh, and they have 5 troop choices.....

Wait you mean to tell me someone else finally realized Devestators were paying too much for their danged guns!

Hallelujah!

Hmm five troops; Tactical, Assault, Scouts, DC, and DC dreads?

Jack

Got it in one Jackmojo. I'm pretty sure there isn't a single category with less than 5 entries. this includes dedicated transports

insaniak wrote:

CrazyThang wrote:IIRC the Stormraven can transport 12 jump pack troops. I haven't seen it but that was being said earlier.

6. Jump Infantry count as 2 models, according to the pic posted.



It does occur to me that I also have to eat crow on the whole 'Blood-forged Blade' being too silly for an actual codex. They've got Blood-everything else in there... And a Magna Grapple. The only thing missing now is a button on Dante's back so that he has a 'super-blood-axe-attack' action!TM!

Thanks for clarifying.

Hulksmash wrote:Got it in one Jackmojo. I'm pretty sure there isn't a single category with less than 5 entries. this includes dedicated transports

So Scouts are Troops again? It always bugged me that they're Elites in the PDF.

Edit: The Deep Striking Land Raiders will be from Thunderhawk Insertion. After all, FW do the Thunderhawk Transporter model for that purpose.

...Not that I'm saying every BA player need to buy a FW Thunderhawk.

I should stop posting on busy work days.

No it wasn't. Landraiders can in fact deepstrike and fluff wise in the book it is due to what Nieth said. They also very specifically spelled out in the rules do not allow anyone inside them to assault the turn they land.

Hulksmash wrote:No it wasn't. Landraiders can in fact deepstrike and fluff wise in the book it is due to what Nieth said. They also very specifically spelled out in the rules do not allow anyone inside them to assault the turn they land.

Are you looking at the book right now?

Nope, but I spent an hour today reading it. So I can start modeling stuff from my DIY chapter for when it comes out. I got most of the rules and point values for the standard stuff. I didn't lock in most of the special characters because I'm probably not gonna run them though

Do we have an actual release date for the Codex? I know it's suppose to be in april.

Hulksmash wrote:Nope, but I spent an hour today reading it. So I can start modeling stuff from my DIY chapter for when it comes out. I got most of the rules and point values for the standard stuff. I didn't lock in most of the special characters because I'm probably not gonna run them though

Any chance you could tell me what the options for a standard librarian are? I'm hoping to use the *extremely* nice Terminator Librarian model from the Space Hulk set as my Librarian, but want to make sure I can field it as I'd like. Specifically: Force Weapon & storm bolter (Default), and also Force Weapon & Storm Shield (If there's an option for that).

I'm also curious to know what the options for a Chaplain are. At present the two HQ models I have 'ready to go' for my BA are the two I just mentioned. Planning on converting up a new Captain model also (My 5th battle company needs a blinged out new boss-man!) using the shiney new bits

Thanks for any info you can shed, and I look forwards to getting my grubby mitts on the BA dex soonish.

Take it easy.

-RT-

Librarian has standard loadouts available. Least I'm pretty sure it did. I know I saw the storm shield option.

As for the chaplain oddly enough Blood Angels have the only 3W and 3A Chappies. But they are still in. As well as being a unit upgrade.

Sounds really awesome to me.

G

Hulksmash wrote:As for the chaplain oddly enough Blood Angels have the only 3W and 3A Chappies. But they are still in. As well as being a unit upgrade.

Dark Angel Interrogator Chaplains and Black Templar Masters of Sanctity beg to differ.

LunaHound wrote:

Green Blow Fly wrote:

reds8n wrote:

Green Blow Fly wrote:The one in the picture is the old model.

No it isn't, despite how often you keep repeating this.

I reckon you owe someone a...... battleforce was it ?

I suggested a Dev squad... then it fell through. Anyways I would love to see some real proof the Baal in the picture is the new all plastic crack model.


G

It didnt fell through , i settled for devastator. We are now just waiting for the release to confirm.

Luna go back and read the posts in this thread.

1) you never agreed upon Devs until just now... Which is too late... Sorry.

2) the bet was in regard to the Baal in the picture, not just a new release. Sorry.

G

Seriously though, 'Liturgies of Blood' (formerly litanies of hate) Now allows the reroll of missed HTH hits, AND wounds...
A long time BA player now grins evilly at all who oppose him.

I helped assemble some of the Sanguinary Guard models. The wings are a bit of a pain, but their bolt pistols/plas pistols/inferno pistols are all gauntlet mounted like grey knight Sb's, with different hand options to go with. Truly a nice addition.

Interesting bit on the DS LR's; I'm assuming that the BA's, according to fluff now, specialize in vehicle drops (above all other marine chapters)....?

I'm also assuming that points will be at a premium for alot of the new toys, though it's good that they have more options for each unit slot now on the FOC.

The real question will be what will be cost-effective in lists now.....