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Book 6 I believe contains the rules for Tybalt Marr as it focuses on the Shattered Legions.

 Gert wrote:
Book 6 I believe contains the rules for Tybalt Marr as it focuses on the Shattered Legions.

Indeed it does (I'd just checked Age of Darkness Legions). Not sure it's him as his rules say he has a sword (Cthonian culling blade) and Bolt Pistol.

It's not Tybalt Marr, he comes with a sword and bolt pistol. This model is almost certainly a generic PA Praetor; the IF already had their PA/Termi Praetors revealed and the SoH are the other half of the upcoming box + their command set is horrifically scaled.

What about Horus Akimond?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
What about Horus Akimond?

Wrong armament again, he uses a huge sword.

beast_gts wrote:

Rihgu wrote:
Saw this on a facebook group. They ordered Maloghurst, got what appears to be a new SoH model instead. Or at least, that's the story they give.

New Praetor (Volkite & Power Fist)? Although the base & cape seem a bit fancy for that.

The new IF Praetors have fancy capes & bases as well.

Based on how them thighs and legs are looking, this new model is also upscaled. I'd say this is pretty much a confirmation at this point and not just flukes.

Forge World's QA remains as impeccable as ever.

*reaches into box containing unreleased models that are placed DIRECTLY next to a box containing released models for the same faction*

Those reddit rumours sound wild. We already got hints about GW doing something big with HH, I'm guessing that part is true. So HH will become a new GW Specialist Game, and plastic kits will be forthcoming for the bread & butter units. However, I'd wager the legion specific stuff (including legion rhino doors etc) will all still remain at FW, unless GW has decided to kill off FW altogether.

It'd make a lot of sense for GW to make generic plastic HH kits without any legion symbols + transfers for them, and leave it up to FW for supplying extra bling for those who want to invest further into their legion. They can also sell these generic HH kits to 40K Marine players who hate Primaris, for example. Its a win/win for both 30K & 40K as far as models go..

Ruleswise however, these news sound very bad. GWification of the HH ruleset will mean "eternal war" with ever changing rules, FAQs and bloat.. And more books to carry to your games every 3 months

I guess possible rumored MK7 Kits are for Late HH but usefull for 40k Old Marine Player.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
*reaches into box containing unreleased models that are placed DIRECTLY next to a box containing released models for the same faction*

I've gotten mislabeled blisters from them a few times. I guess they either mis-load the machine and/or the packing person isn't a fan and doesn't know the difference - at least they're both SoH!

Could also be a viral attempt. It's suspected they did the same with the Ahriman plastic way back when and GW have done it once or twice in the past.

 zedmeister wrote:
Could also be a viral attempt. It's suspected they did the same with the Ahriman plastic way back when and GW have done it once or twice in the past.

Or the first Primaris "leak" - 2-3 Months before 7th Edition.

Wonder if those spreading Rumors/Wishlisting on Socials is also Part of something.

This picture popped up on a discord server I'm on.

Spoilered because it's quite large.

Could be a generic Prætor?

 Marshal Loss wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

Rihgu wrote:
Saw this on a facebook group. They ordered Maloghurst, got what appears to be a new SoH model instead. Or at least, that's the story they give.

New Praetor (Volkite & Power Fist)? Although the base & cape seem a bit fancy for that.

The new IF Praetors have fancy capes & bases as well.

True - WarCom link.

 zedmeister wrote:
Could be a generic Prætor?

Pretty sure that's what it's supposed to be.

However, I'd wager the legion specific stuff (including legion rhino doors etc) will all still remain at FW, unless GW has decided to kill off FW altogether.

I can't see Games Workshop doing this anytime soon. FW still produces a ton of things for Heresy, as well as Necromunda, Titanicus, and Middle Earth. They'd have to find a way to transition hundreds of kits and upgrade packs into plastic first.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/olbqvl/horus_heresy_again/

Nice! I love it that Mr Bligh's legacy will be venerated like this. I can only hope GW doesn't twist anything too much from the original vision..

But that new mini leak shows what we can expect from the firstborn marine resculpts - new legs. Pretty much everything else will remain as is.

I don't see how GW expects to be selling any more firstborn marine kits until the resculpts have been released. I'm certainly not going to be buying any until these new kits are out. In fact, I should start offloading my current firstborn minis while they still have some remblance of resale value..

I 'spose that HH does give them an excuse to recast the Tactical Squad. Again. Again. Again. Again.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I 'spose that HH does give them an excuse to recast the Tactical Squad. Again. Again. Again. Again.

Isn't that exactly what you want? You always complain when they do anything new.

Instead of "little birds twittering" it sure would be great if Games Workshop themselves gave us all of this information in a big Preview Day or something. It would cut down on endless speculation and rumormongering and leave everyone with actual information directly from the source.

 Mr. Grey wrote:
Instead of "little birds twittering" it sure would be great if Games Workshop themselves gave us all of this information in a big Preview Day or something. It would cut down on endless speculation and rumormongering and leave everyone with actual information directly from the source.

At this point, I assume that the rumours are coming from GW. The speculation gets people excited and primed to pay attention when GW finally makes an announcement. It's easy and cheap hype building.

Sounds like a lot more BS. Why are you people buying into this?

Half of these rumors conflict with what he posted previously. Sounds a lot like someone called him out on his previous statements being inconsistent with rumors from better sources and hes backtracking to bring it in line with that.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Sounds like a lot more BS. Why are you people buying into this?

Half of these rumors conflict with what he posted previously. Sounds a lot like someone called him out on his previous statements being inconsistent with rumors from better sources and hes backtracking to bring it in line with that.

This was my thought as well. Either that or whoever is spreading these got a power trip off all the attention they're getting and decided to spout a few more things that sound vaguely plausible.

Edit: There are several of these that spark my suspicion:

GW Main now writing Horus Heresy rules? GW Main is busy pumping out 9th edition codex and supplement books, and probably already planning for 10th. They don't have time to write 30k rulebooks in addition to all of that.

Missing and new characters in plastic? So far every single HH character has been resin with the exception of Ahriman, who came in Burning of Prospero... and still hasn't been released yet on his own. There is zero indication that 30K characters from here on out will be plastic.

"freeing capacities for more Specialist Games and Warhammer The Old World" - adding more people to the Horus Heresy design team accomplishes the exact same thing, why would they move the rules writing to GW Main who are already busy with both 40k and AoS. What does "more Specialist Games" mean? I don't see GW adding more specialist games at the moment, feels like they already have a full plate between Necromunda, Middle Earth, Titanicus, Blood Bowl, and Aeronautica.

The Alan Bligh note just seems weird. I get that he really loved the setting, but it's been four years since he passed away. Adding this note in seems more of an appeasing nod to everyone who keeps saying that 30k really floundered after his death.

Size comparison of the "leaked" SoH mini and the current MkIII marines:

I think the Alan Bligh note was there to try to build some legitimacy and get those "feels good man" vibes going. Seems to have worked based on tauists response

An extremely dirty and underhand piece of trollship if that is the case.

 infinite_array wrote:
Size comparison of the "leaked" SoH mini and the current MkIII marines:

The new proportions looks so much better! It's scary how much difference a new set of legs makes.

I'd say this new sculpt wouldn't look too shabby even next to a Primaris model.

GW is simply daft if they will not be resculpting their iconinc firstborn marines to these new proportions. Now that everyone ha sbought their Primaris, its time to milk the marine players.. again! hehehe

 Crimson wrote:
Isn't that exactly what you want? You always complain when they do anything new.

Outright lies as usual...