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 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
Is there any way you can get it on the day of release if you order it direct from games workshop?

I don't know if there is a "deliver to my store" option that would let you pick it up from a local GW store. If the 6th BRB was any indication it could mean that some people that actually order it from GW will get it the week after.

I just got off the phone with my FLGS who usually sells the WD two days early and he told me he'd gotten into some trouble about that recently and he can no longer sell it early. Might mean there is some truth to that leaked letter (be it fake or no, the message itself seems to have been sent one way or another)

 Robbietobbie wrote:
I just got off the phone with my FLGS who usually sells the WD two days early and he told me he'd gotten into some trouble about that recently and he can no longer sell it early. Might mean there is some truth to that leaked letter (be it fake or no, the message itself seems to have been sent one way or another)

GW has always had a dont sell our stuff early or else policy. Likely your LGS just finally got caught

 Gutstuf Ugfang wrote:

anyone else think the traitor guard on forge world look better than the cultists?

Yes, does anyone else think that the incredibly expensive boutique models that almost always look better than their GW equivalents look better than their snap-fit plastic equivalents? That's not even a question. I think these cultists look awesome, but the Forgeworld ones have a level of detail that plastic isn't at yet. That being said, if I'm going to build a horde of cultists it's going to be from starter set plastics as opposed to Forgeworld resin.

GW sent out a somewhat harsh message to retailers 1-2 weeks ago regarding leaking info and selling before the release date. If caught, the retailer risks not getting new products until six weeks (I think it was six, grain of salt here) after release.

 d-usa wrote:

 Vitruvian XVII wrote:
Who cares about the tactical markings?

Blood Angels also don't wear robes. Everybody knows that blood stains are a pain in the butt to get out of your robes.

Umm.... does Corbulo wear robes? Mephiston? Dante?

Waethion wrote:
GW sent out a somewhat harsh message to retailers 1-2 weeks ago regarding leaking info and selling before the release date. If caught, the retailer risks not getting new products until six weeks (I think it was six, grain of salt here) after release.

GW have told retailers that they will withdraw accounts from them if they promote any of the leaked information, this is also linked to webcasts and blogs that they sponsor which is a bit of a joke really!

 Tappers wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 Vitruvian XVII wrote:
Who cares about the tactical markings?

Blood Angels also don't wear robes. Everybody knows that blood stains are a pain in the butt to get out of your robes.

Umm.... does Corbulo wear robes? Mephiston? Dante?

Mephiston has one, that's all. He also has a giant leather cape.

 dalsiandon wrote:
I wonder if someone at my FLGS will go halves as I've no interest in the Chaos stuff but would love to get my hands on all the new DA kit.

Given that there will be much more demand for the Chaos stuff you should be able to get two for one in your trades...

I'm not sure which to place my bets on: a ton of new DA players or a ton of unbought DA models on ebay with no bids.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

 Starfarer wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
GW's "warning" was so juvenile and childish (including poor use of grammar) that it's likely to have many independent retailers simply ignore it.

That's assuming it's even real. Funny that any rumors that pop up are usually subject to immediate scrutiny and sources are evaluated thoroughly, but any random "Internal GW document," regardless of how poorly written or called into question by former employees who have seen actual GW internal documents, is immediately taken at face value. If you're going to be critical, at least be consistent.

That document has been criticized before, you're not the first person to call it into question. Get over yourself.

Never claimed to be the first to question it. Just pointing out the disparity in criticism when in comes to GW rumors and "leaks."


@Everyone else who responded - thanks for actually providing source confirmations. I hadn't seen that posted here before, but I probably have missed a few pages of discussion.

Glorioski wrote:
I'm not sure which to place my bets on: a ton of new DA players or a ton of unbought DA models on ebay with no bids.

The two are not mutually exclusive. I suspect there will be an upswing in the number of DA players, but not enough to keep their half of the box sitting up on ebay, unloved and all alone.

 Nevelon wrote:

Glorioski wrote:
I'm not sure which to place my bets on: a ton of new DA players or a ton of unbought DA models on ebay with no bids.

The two are not mutually exclusive. I suspect there will be an upswing in the number of DA players, but not enough to keep their half of the box sitting up on ebay, unloved and all alone.

I'm definitely taking my DAs. Very excited to get them as it happens. The chapter won't actually be Dark Angels because I'm not a fan of their paint scheme, but that's fine. Bad asses in robes with a feather motif. That's cool.

I don't want the DA's (as nice as they look) but those cultists are begging to become Delaques....

 Nevelon wrote:

Glorioski wrote:
I'm not sure which to place my bets on: a ton of new DA players or a ton of unbought DA models on ebay with no bids.

The two are not mutually exclusive. I suspect there will be an upswing in the number of DA players, but not enough to keep their half of the box sitting up on ebay, unloved and all alone.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Gutstuf Ugfang wrote:

anyone else think the traitor guard on forge world look better than the cultists?

Yes, does anyone else think that the incredibly expensive boutique models that almost always look better than their GW equivalents look better than their snap-fit plastic equivalents? That's not even a question. I think these cultists look awesome, but the Forgeworld ones have a level of detail that plastic isn't at yet. That being said, if I'm going to build a horde of cultists it's going to be from starter set plastics as opposed to Forgeworld resin.

I am not happy with the cultists either. I wanted robes. These guys dont look like cultists to me, they look like derelict space children.

 Exergy wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Gutstuf Ugfang wrote:

anyone else think the traitor guard on forge world look better than the cultists?

Yes, does anyone else think that the incredibly expensive boutique models that almost always look better than their GW equivalents look better than their snap-fit plastic equivalents? That's not even a question. I think these cultists look awesome, but the Forgeworld ones have a level of detail that plastic isn't at yet. That being said, if I'm going to build a horde of cultists it's going to be from starter set plastics as opposed to Forgeworld resin.

I am not happy with the cultists either. I wanted robes. These guys dont look like cultists to me, they look like derelict space children.

I think what you paint them as might have something to do with how happy you are with them. Not really the biggest fan of khorne, so I'm not big on the chaos side as a whole.

I wonder how hard it will be to convert the bikers and terminators to chaos?

Captain Fantastic wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Gutstuf Ugfang wrote:

anyone else think the traitor guard on forge world look better than the cultists?

Yes, does anyone else think that the incredibly expensive boutique models that almost always look better than their GW equivalents look better than their snap-fit plastic equivalents? That's not even a question. I think these cultists look awesome, but the Forgeworld ones have a level of detail that plastic isn't at yet. That being said, if I'm going to build a horde of cultists it's going to be from starter set plastics as opposed to Forgeworld resin.

I am not happy with the cultists either. I wanted robes. These guys dont look like cultists to me, they look like derelict space children.

I think what you paint them as might have something to do with how happy you are with them. Not really the biggest fan of khorne, so I'm not big on the chaos side as a whole.

I wonder how hard it will be to convert the bikers and terminators to chaos?

they dont specifically scream out khorne to me? except for the paintjob

Oh, haha. No, I like the models, I just don't like how they're painted up for the boxed set. The hellbrute is a bit Khorny, with those horns on the sarcophagus though.

Yeah but the hellbrute has eyes and tentacles as well....

RedemptionNL has the WD. He describes the missions in the Starter Set as:

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There are 6 missions in the booklet enclosed with the starter set, which balance the forces a little I think:

Rampage:
Solo mission designed to be played be a single player, where the player must use the Chaos forces to wittle down the rampaging Hellbrute to a single hull point, after which the Chaos Lord must deactivate it in assault.

The Long & Winding Road:
Solo mission designed to be played be a single player, where the player must use the Ravenwing Bike squadron to survive 3 successive waves of Chaos Cultsts.

Ambush:
Small scale ambush by a handful of Dark Angels against a large force of Chaos Cultists. To represent the ambush, the Chaos player cannot declare a charge, go to ground or fire Overwatch in the first turn, and can only fire Snap Shots the first turn.

Psychic Storm:
Introduction of the Librarian. Dark Angels go against a larger force of Chaos Cultists, with staggered reinforcements such as the Deathwing and Chosen coming in on fixed turn numbers.

Firefight:
First mission to use all the models in the set, basic victory points for destroyed units, with the HQs and Hellbrute being worth more points.

The Hellfire Stone:
Seems to be similair to the Relic mission from the base rule book.
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It would appear as though this balances the forces within the set.

Clearly it looks odd because we are putting into normal game context.

Personally, I am interested in playing these new missions, using only what is included in the starter set.

 WarOne wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 WarOne wrote:
Add horns.
Add skulls.
Turn sword upside down.

Simply amazing. That still makes it look nothing like the AoBR captain aside from being a generic lord in power armour, at which point complaining about it is pointless.

Remove horns.
Remove skulls.
Turn sword right-side up.

Now it is an AOBR captain.

the chaos lords cloak flows to his left while the AOBR flows to his right. Huge difference!


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 tokugawa wrote:
The 10 cultisits group have 4 pairs of each pose, and 2 special guy.

Wondering about the sprue arrangement.

yup there are:
4 guys with autoguns*2
4 guys with pistols and CCW*2
1 guy with special weapon*2
1 heavy stubber
1 flamer
1 champion 1
1 champion 2


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
ib4 loyalist players complain so hard about Chaos dreads having the firepower of a rifleman while still keeping the powerfist that is gets errata'd!

they cost more and arent twinlinked but i am sure panzees will complain.

"omg, I can't get an auto-win with Gk anymore."

Did I miss a rumor about chaos dreads losing fire frenzy? Get rid of that and I might pay attention to a chaos dread

In a word, something "like it" still exists- According to recent rumors on the Hellbrute.

I was told shelves will be stocked before the opening of the local store on the 1st

but am seriously considering buying a some gifts for friends

So what time can we put in are pre order in in central time USA for the box set any one pleas???

 Fury_00011 wrote:
So what time can we put in are pre order in in central time USA for the box set any one pleas???

Pre-orders officially start this Saturday, but GW will usually update their website at 12am CST, so probably when it is actually August 25th you can place a pre-order with GW online. If you want to order on 3rd party sites you should be able to do this on Saturday as well.

Thanks for the heads up

timd wrote:

 dalsiandon wrote:
I wonder if someone at my FLGS will go halves as I've no interest in the Chaos stuff but would love to get my hands on all the new DA kit.

Given that there will be much more demand for the Chaos stuff you should be able to get two for one in your trades...

I'm already putting the word out.