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 LunaHound wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

 LunaHound wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 LunaHound wrote:
At the same time, they don't want people to "fill out" or start a whole SM army easily with generic SM like they did with AOBR sets.

Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to ignorance/apathy. I really, really doubt that they put DA's in the box so that non-DA Marine players would be unable to 'fill out' their armies with them.

I was under the impression that possibility would suit a business POV better.

No, the better business plan is to have a set that everyone will buy. Once a certain number have been sold, everything above that is profit.

So having a set like AoBR is best because people will buy it, and in multiples. This set may be bought in multiples, but only really by Chaos and DA players.

Yes but that is only half of the story. One can also say for every extra marine they purchased using AOBR, is marines they wont purchase from individual box sets.

True, but in the likely event that the person would NOT have purchased an individual boxed set they would not have gained any money by not offering the AoBR set.

That is also true. But impossible to tell :'/

That "leaked" email would be more interesting if it weren't also blatantly faked.

So having a set like AoBR is best because people will buy it, and in multiples. This set may be bought in multiples, but only really by Chaos and DA players.

And, let's not forget, by the truckload by new players, who don't really care about what particular flavour of space marines are in the box this time, since they have nothing to compare it to. They just see cool models.

Blatently faked?

What is your evidence pray tell?

Regardless of whether the email is faked or legit (it must be legit, right? I saw it on the internets! And "The Man (tm)" will say it's fake - so it must be real!!!1!

Ahem. So anyway, I had no intention of buying this box on release and just getting it later (what with all the Kickstarters and such), but seeing that Chaplain, I'm having to rethink that now.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 RiTides wrote:

 Just Dave wrote:
'Tides, I think you are the only other person I've seen that's underwhelmed by the models.

I'm not a fan either, of the Chaos in particular, although much of the Dark Angel stuff is good.

Good to see I'm not alone! Chaos is almost a caricature of itself now...

Wait so, GW go back to the original Chaos twisted biomechanical aesthetic, rather than Emo Marines, and that's a caricature?

If anything, for a long while now Chaos has just been a pale shadow of the Loyalists, half the time you couldn't tell whether someone was playing a Chaos warband or a DIY Loyalists chapter until they told you, and this revision of the original look gives them back their unique character.

I love OOP chaos stuff... I just don't love these. As I said, feels like a caricature of itself... to me, at least.

I'm primarily thinking of the dread and Marines, but the cultists don't grab my interest, either.

 RiTides wrote:
but the cultists don't grab my interest, either.

Maybe because they all have the reminiscing look from other company's Not Cultist sculpts.

I suppose the good news is that GW actually added Cultists to the Chaos Codex. Who says you have to use the stock models?

Convert your own from IG or henchmen. Or necromunda gangers.

 Grey Templar wrote:
I suppose the good news is that GW actually added Cultists to the Chaos Codex. Who says you have to use the stock models?

Convert your own from IG or henchmen. Or necromunda gangers.

Im just going to buy 3 starter sets, and leave 2 box worth of cultists un assembled, and buy 1 box of cultist box set when it comes out.
and chop / reglue the new weapon and head :'D

That email reads as though it was written by a teenager who imagines that's what "corporate" emails sound like, or by a robot who recently completed a correspondence course in sounding like a human.
J'accuse LunaHound!

 plastictrees wrote:

J'accuse LunaHound!

je suis désolé je ne comprends pas!

Blatently faked?

What is your evidence pray tell?

Welp, during my extended period of time as an employee of ++RECORDS EXPUNGED++, I came into contact with quite a few official emails from the higher-ups, many of which were concerned with secretive/sensitive information or releases, such as this one.

What I can say is that in this case, the syntax and language is all wrong, and that they have never -ever- offered a box set as a reward for work completed (and a limited edition no less). The email is also far too "upbeat" for an internal email, all of the ones that I have experienced have been definitively by the book.

So yeah, whilst it is possible that this is not fake, it seems quite different from all the other internal emails I've experienced. Plus, as far as I know, there's no information in there that was not known to us beforehand (excepting the stuff about rewarding employees with free stuff).

 MetalOxide wrote:

ceorron wrote:To get that right warpcrafter I think a new backpack for the marines would make a big difference and a spare heads from the chaos space marine sprue. Note you will probably have the cut or shave off the SMs head as it will most likely be attached to the body on the sprue.

Apart from that you may want the armour to look more ornate and "bony" by the looks of the new CSMs so this will most likely require god like green stuff skills if you have them. If not simply a new chaos like paint job maybe enough to make the difference.

Oh and file off the shoulder DA symbols replace with chaos ones.

Maybe go for some of the Fallen Angel backpacks? They can easily be Fallen Dark Angels...

Those are pretty interesting, but I was thinking of just getting a bunch of sets of the possessed chaos space marines and swapping out some of their parts for loyalist parts.

I am hoping for Cypher to be in the codex. long shot but I can wish

 plastictrees wrote:
That email reads as though it was written by a teenager who imagines that's what "corporate" emails sound like, or by a robot who recently completed a correspondence course in sounding like a human.
J'accuse LunaHound!

Or that's how juvenile GW actually acts towards its business partners.

TechMarine1 wrote:
...the chaos lord just looks like they just took the AoBR captain and made a few changes.

A few?

Hatemonger wrote:

Thanks, Tim. What good is the internet if you can't rely on someone else doing work for you, eh?

You'll probably appreciate this too:

Slayer le boucher wrote:

mjl7atlas wrote:Do the Chaos Marine Helms seem to have a DE Incubi look to them?

No they have a CSM Rogue Trader era look

And I replied to that one too:

timd wrote:

Brometheus wrote:Look at the CSM horns on the Bolter toting chap... Rogue Trader CSM anyone?

Bingo! My thought as well.

I'll see your Epic Space Marine, and raise you a Space Crusade!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qv1n3hcwv4fs5wx/2012-08-17%2022.21.31.jpg
I guess I'll have to finish painting these guys, since they might finally have a time where their rules AND style are in fashion again.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

TechMarine1 wrote:
...the chaos lord just looks like they just took the AoBR captain and made a few changes.

A few?

Add horns.
Add skulls.
Turn sword upside down.

 WarOne wrote:
Add horns.
Add skulls.
Turn sword upside down.

Simply amazing. That still makes it look nothing like the AoBR captain aside from being a generic lord in power armour, at which point complaining about it is pointless.

 -Loki- wrote:

 WarOne wrote:
Add horns.
Add skulls.
Turn sword upside down.

Simply amazing. That still makes it look nothing like the AoBR captain aside from being a generic lord in power armour, at which point complaining about it is pointless.

Remove horns.
Remove skulls.
Turn sword right-side up.

Now it is an AOBR captain.

[quote=H.B.M.C.
A few?

LOL! Nice on scipio.

Yeah. It's nothing like the AOBR captain. People are just looking for something to complain about, and have found a whole bunch'a straws to clutch at.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
LOL! Nice on scipio.

Yeah. It's nothing like the AOBR captain. People are just looking for something to complain about, and have found a whole bunch'a straws to clutch at.

Actually, I like the fact they're using similar models. Maybe it will make the price of the set only partially outrageous.

Still going to buy it based off some blurry pictures from a GW catalog scan.

 WarOne wrote:
Actually, I like the fact they're using similar models. Maybe it will make the price of the set only partially outrageous.

I... what

Even if it was the AoBR captain with an axe instead of a sword, it wouldn't affect the price one jot. Because it would require an entirely new mold to be tooled.

Those cultists make me wish I would've went to college instead of joined the army

 -Loki- wrote:

 WarOne wrote:
Actually, I like the fact they're using similar models. Maybe it will make the price of the set only partially outrageous.

I... what

Even if it was the AoBR captain with an axe instead of a sword, it wouldn't affect the price one jot. Because it would require an entirely new mold to be tooled.

The mechanics behind it pretty much revolve around the concept that 40k enthusiasts will appreciate: the Genestealer.

If a genestealer infects a human population, several generations down the road, future humans will become genestealer hybrids themselves.

If we infect the AOBR Captain with Chaos, then slowly but surely he'll turn into the Chaos Lord. First the skulls, then the horns, and finally his sword will turn upside-down and he'll then be transformed.

I should of explained that better in my prior post, as my logical fallacies sometimes are not as poorly understood as I do not understand them.

In other news,

the price I hear for the set seems to be very reasonable to start.

Do you think they will increase the price of the set like they did AOBR; and if they do, how much of a percentage markup do you think we'll see?

What's the rumoured price?

I'm guessing around Baneblade price?

Last price I heard for this is $105 US. No idea if it's accurate or not.

 Breotan wrote:
Last price I heard for this is $105 US. No idea if it's accurate or not.

Page 25 or so had a price quote around there yeah.

Even if the set jumps as high as $120, this set is still a very good deal.

Of course I hope GW does not price it too high. Interest is really running rampant right now and it would be a buzz-kill to hear of any price above the $120 marker.

Hmm. That might mean about $140 for Australia. That's better than I expected. The start of my Chaos army shouldn't cost me as much as I thought.