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**KalashnikovMarine**

You're running IG right? I'm in the same boat. Doms or Seraphs can easily give you something more but to note it is something that our own lists provide plenty of. I will say I think I prefer tank hunting Doms over Tank hunting MeltaVets. If you're running an armored regiment vs a mechanized force (I do anvil/hammer, as my above remarks suggest I like a combined arms approach) supplementing Anti-Infantry or Anti-Armor won't hurt at all and both Sisters units are lethally efficient in their roles

Edit:

Amerikon looking forward to seeing how your experiment turns out. Foot slogging sisters would be an interesting switch for an army that if any one knows about the SoB they know they're mechanized 98% of the time, be nice to be able to pull a switch on someone.

On a bits note, snagged a set of new forgeworld SoB rhino doors/front off ebay for just under list price shipped. Saved $8 or so I suppose

**Evil Lamp 6**

Gar'Ang wrote:I have another question, what do you guys use for combiweapon superiors?

Btw, I convert my meltas and flamers from bolters using pipes and Green stuff

For Combi-Flamers, I have purchased several of the old Canoness model that has a Combi-Flamer (Incidentally, the other hand she's holding up is great for tons of bits including: the Ecclesiarchy symbol she comes with, the book and scroll from the newer Canoness bits, and a sword just to name a few)

For Combi-Meltas and Combi-Plasma I use a few different posed Sisters with the Combi weapons from the Space Marine Commander Box.

I like WYSIWYG.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Woooo getting some more sisters from a guy I got my army off of. So some more of the special weapons I need, also found a guy selling a Retributor squad with HB... so this might work out nicely for me.

I really like the idea of the Repentia setting in to a Aegis fortification somewhere and providing 8 barrels of death (counting the autocannon turret) to help shore up the BSSs and the Dominions tank busting.

Also started painting: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-61627-27938_Sisters%20Of%20Ebattle%20Test%20Figur.html

Not terrible I think considering this is my first time painting something not a tank XD

but with any luck the girls will be route marching towards the nearest engagement zone shortly.

**pzbw7z**

McGibs wrote:As I'm running SoB as allies, I can only take one FA slot, so its either Doms or Seras. I've got enough big smashy tanks for vehicle killing, so the flamer seras are looking more appealing.

Twin-linked multi-meltas are pretty good, Scouts makes them even better. Going first, they can often neutralize a priority target. Outflanking can also be effective. Their AoF makes flamers in particular work very well. Two flamers and a combi-flamer can often take out fairly hard targets. Melta guns are useful as well. One squad alone won't be long for this world, but there's not much to be done about that.

A big Seraphim squad with Celestine can dish out some serious infantry-hurt. Their AoF makes all those pistol shots and flamer hits brutally effective. They can wipe large MEQ units in a turn. The trouble is, there are a fair few units out there that can do the same to them.

**Zefig**

Ebay is really the best for getting sisters. They strip easily, and for a while at least they were dirt cheap, although prices have certainly gone up since the WD codex came out. Just be patient and wait for deals. I've accumulated about 3500 points worth of sisters from ebay with some fantastic deals.

Also, if you really want heavy bolter sisters, why not use the immolator HBs? They're already sisters-themed, have ammo cans so they won't need backpacks, and you've already got tons you're never going to use.

**pretre**

The immo ones are a bit big. Some of the land speeder ones aren't bad though.

**KalashnikovMarine**

I've gotten some insane deals on sisters, my army was $400 all together shipped counting paint (give or take) and all told it was just shy of $1000 worth of sisters. They all need some serious stripping for the most part (some had a weird punk rock theme...) but the deals are out there. Dakka's swap shop has also been a positive experience for me.

That number includes various extra bits I've purchased here and there like the Sanguinary guard jump packs that will be going on my Seraphim (am I the only one who thinks it's flat wrong for a unit named after a choir of angels to not have wings?)

**Zefig**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:I've gotten some insane deals on sisters, my army was $400 all together shipped counting paint (give or take) and all told it was just shy of $1000 worth of sisters. They all need some serious stripping for the most part (some had a weird punk rock theme...) but the deals are out there. Dakka's swap shop has also been a positive experience for me.

That number includes various extra bits I've purchased here and there like the Sanguinary guard jump packs that will be going on my Seraphim (am I the only one who thinks it's flat wrong for a unit named after a choir of angels to not have wings?)

I hear you on that. I worked on some winged sisters jump packs in CAD a while back, along with a few combi-weapon type things, and even got some 3D printed with intent to cast them. That hasn't panned out so far really, but I have the masters sitting around somewhere if I ever do get the time to do it.

**KalashnikovMarine**

That would be epic! Hope you have a chance to get it done at some point.

Edit:

and after many, many hours of painting I have my first Sister done and gloss sealed despite a /minor/ mistake... forgot an ink wash before I sealed her ^^; got two more to final touch ups, ink wash and the big hold up skin, and got a sister superior to a point where I need to start painting gold... but the Auric Armor gold I got the other day is complete gak. So it's off to the FLGS tomorrow for more paint... and hopefully a round or two with my IG.

**Spidey0804**

Amerikon wrote:
pretre wrote:I am running Celestine and Seraphim now that we moved to 6th after your recommendation, Amerikon. I'll let you know how it goes when I hit up a tournament next month.
Glad to be of service!

Shifting gears....

Something I'm interested in trying out is un-meching our troops. Looking over the missions (and I think this may have come up before), there's really only one mission where troops are needed to take objectives (Crusade). In the others, you either get help from FA and HS, or you only have to contend with single objectives. I've always been of the mind that our Troops were relatively poor choices compared to the rest of the army, so why not take the next step and completely minimize them? For the price of those two Rhinos they're barely using, you can almost get a MM Immo.

I'm going to try out foot troops and two max-size Retributor squads tonight and let y'all know how it goes.

Sounds good, cant wait to hear what you come up with.

**Amerikon**

Amerikon wrote:I'm going to try out foot troops and two max-size Retributor squads tonight and let y'all know how it goes.

Here's a mini battle report:
I played a 1500pt game. It was Crusade with 4 objectives using Hammer and Anvil deployment.

My List:

Spoiler:

His List:

Spoiler:

The Turn-by-turn:

Spoiler:

I had three big takeaways from this game.
1) Non-assault transport vehicles are completely non-threatening. Knowing that I was safe the following turn completely neutralized the threat of having his assault squads up in my front lines.

2) Vehicles not being able to contest objectives is HUGE. At the end of the game he had a Vindicator, a Vendetta, and a Land Speeder in my DZ. In 5th, this would have been disastrous. In this game, I was largely able to just ignore those vehicles and concentrate on the targets I was really concerned with.

3) I'm not usually big on the whole "meta" thing, but I think this army breaks the meta a bit. Once my Quad Gun and Vehicles were dead, my opponent had very little that could threaten my troops. I think armies with less melta and a lot of mid strength shooting would be more dangerous. I'm also concerned about Dark Eldar and Orks who can assault out of their vehicles. The Daemon "Flying Circus" army I played against on Sunday would also probably be problematic and I have yet to face any of the 6E death star lists.

We'll see how it goes, but I think this is going to be the army I'll use at the Golden Throne this weekend. At the very least it's a change of pace and it'll be fun to play a different style in an event that I don't expect to win.

**FifteenHours**

I am thinking of starting SoB, as I am approaching the end of my Imperial Guard project.

What would be a good 1000pt list to work towards with 6th edition rules?

**pretre**

Celestine
2 sisters squads in rhinos
Dominion in immolator
Exorcist
Seraphim squad or another immo

**KalashnikovMarine**

Had a pretty good match against SM tonight with my IG, we had to call it at the top of turn three due to the store closing and me wanting to make the late movie with some mates, so it came out a flat draw. Kill points game and we each finished off one squad. I whittled the hell out of his squads though. Saw a couple places where I really wish I'd had Sisters instead of my guard. Also ran in to a couple places where I was wishing flame based weapons worked like they do in the real world so I could clear his fething troops out of the damn building he occupied.

Side note, can a Thunderfire cannon be placed upstairs in a multi story building? Can it even go inside?

Getting some more sisters shortly, though one issue with them is that seven are missing packs, the seller is sending them with seven SM backpacks, so I think what I'll do is I'll pass the SM packs out amongst my Sister Superiors and leave four or so for a dedicated Celestine squad.

Edit: Also rather important my FLGS store owner said we should keep our eyes peeled 4th Quarter 2013, that rumblings high up the supply chain had been heard regarding plastic sisters. No idea how accurate that is... but it's hope isn't it?

**sudojoe**

I would jump for perverbral joy when plastic sisters come out. Always wanted them hopefully with better sculpts. Prior female models never lookd good to me. Helmets were a requirement XD

I got my repentia squads all set up already though so I'll be good for a while. Really been loving the repentia. Feels like I'm using an ork mob with how many dice I'm rolling now a days

**KalashnikovMarine**

When it doubt drown'em in dice. The guy I was playing tonight's eyes almost popped out when I dropped FRFSRF on a 20 Guardsman blob.

**pretre**

Plastic sisters are like the holy grail: everyone's got a story about it, but no one can tell you where it actually is.

**Shandara**

pretre wrote:Plastic sisters are like the holy grail: everyone's got a story about it, but no one can tell you where it actually is.

And if your story turns out false.. you choose poorly.

**KalashnikovMarine**

So what you're saying is we need to go on a quest in rural england? I'll get my horse.

**pzbw7z**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:So what you're saying is we need to go on a quest in rural england? I'll get my horse.

All you need is a pair of coconut halves.

**KalashnikovMarine**

pzbw7z wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:So what you're saying is we need to go on a quest in rural england? I'll get my horse.

All you need is a pair of coconut halves.

Round here it's easier to get a horse... no swallows

**pretre**

Pretty sure that if our quest involved GW HQ we might strike pay dirt.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Hmmm why would the holy... oh, right yes. Yes that would probably be the place to start wouldn't it?

**pzbw7z**

On second thought, let's not go to GW HQ; it is a silly place.

**KalashnikovMarine**

GW HQ:

**Evil Lamp 6**

Serious question: Which Warlord table do you choose to roll on and for which Warlord for Sisters and why?

For me, I choose the Personal Traits table for St. Celestine. Almost all of those rolls are good for her and a unit of Seraphim to share, particularly numbers 4, 5, and 6. 3 is arguably the least useful for St. Celestine as she can already Deepstrike, and 1 & 2 are definitely more situational, but still not bad.

For Jacobus, I generally choose the Command Traits table as I see him and either the Conclave and/or Sisters near him getting more use out of those traits than either the Personal or Strategic. That being said, I could see taking the Strategic depending more on the situation at hand and what type of list I'm running that day. With him already granting FnP to his unit, and not being very kill-y on his own, I would never choose Personal for Jacobus.

For Kyrinov, I generally choose the Strategic Traits table. With Kyrinov's abilities, he already acts similarly to some of the Command Traits that could be rolled. Some of the Personal Traits could be useful for Kyrinov and a 20 woman BSS or just a Conclave. Again, Kyrinov's role in the particular list I'm running him in would dictate more of which trait table I'd choose to roll on.

So what about the rest of you?

**pretre**

I've been mixing it up. Right now, I've been going with Celestine, since Jacobus is generally prioritized by my enemy and dies. If I go to a support roll for Jacobus, I'll probably swap it out.

I haven't gotten a feel for which one I like best yet. It has been a toss up between Command and Personal.

**Vindicare-Obsession**

Im thinking celestine if, for nothing else, than the enemy will be extremely hard put to get the "Kill the Warlord" bonus.

**pretre**

Exactly.

**Vindicare-Obsession**

On that note, does that work? Ive heard that if you wipe a unit of crons and it comes back you still get the first blood point. Would celestine be the same way (assuming that what I've heard is true)