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Not meant to be sarcastic!

In reality, the Black Rage is caused by visions of Sanguinius struggling for hours and hours trying to get himself loose, before accidentally impaling himself when one of his wings finally broke off.


Leman Russ has been quoted more than once saying "Shiz happens, these emo marines should get over it already".

So Astorath is Vlad then? He's certainly nicked his armour from the Dracula movie. hehe.

Other than that nice looking DC and Honour Guard, although not nice enough for me or the other half to consider a new army.

Might pick up the book for a read of the fluff though, always been a fan of the background.

Commander Endova wrote:I'm dissapointed I can only take a measly 3 Stormravens, though.

I'm far more disappointed that Storm Raven's aren't part of the initial release, and that there supposedly isn't even a picture to scratchbuild against.

Still, I'll be getting the Codex at least. Not sure about the bitz until I see them with my own eyes.

Not wanting to go back through pages of posts to find it: is this Stormraven that rumored new lander, or something else?

Yes it is the new lander.

Nice, so at least that wasn't a false rumor.

There is guaranteed money to be made off this, so I bet we will get a plastic kit for it in the near future. The model (in it's developmental stages) was claimed to have been seen by someone at GW hq, right?

Not sure...

Could have been someone who saw the Forge World version coming out with the Raven Guard stuff soon, or it cold have been the 'real deal'.

The grails were not nearly so prominent in 1st/2nd and even 3rd edition. That kinda stuff was left to flesh drinkers

Ive read all the books as well, and the BA specific ones by swallow are very recent in the scheme of things, they do not represent the old stuff in any way shape or form.

I understand the reasoning and always have, they are the holy vessels used to preserve the essence of their primarch (the vitae anyways, theyve got sangui in the basement in a gold cocoon lol ), and that I can deal with, I just don't like them all over the plave on the armor or being carried around into battle. Just a taste thing really.

Im just relieved they dropped the vampire stuff and grails more or less to focus on greek/roman themed angels again.

MajorTom11 wrote:The grails were not nearly so prominent in 1st/2nd and even 3rd edition. That kinda stuff was left to flesh drinkers

I think perhaps you mean 'Blood Drinkers'...


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MajorTom11 wrote:Im just relieved they dropped the vampire stuff and grails more or less to focus on greek/roman themed angels again.

You did see Astaroth and Sanguinor, right...

more or less I said
I dont mind the vampire/dracula armor, im just glad they didnt overdo the teeth and the cannibalism if you know what I mean, they could have went very differently with the directions into vampire counts territory.

And yes, blood drinkers absolutely... doing too many things at once while typing posts not helpful with sounding intelligent... but at least I mixed up succesors! lol

Excuse me while I put on the cone of shame for an hour for my trangression

Hey, so, anyone's that seen the codex - any word on whether the Stormraven can be used by other chapters?

Death By Monkeys wrote:Hey, so, anyone's that seen the codex - any word on whether the Stormraven can be used by other chapters?

That's not going to be mentioned in the Blood Angels codex...

But really, I would NOT be surprised to see GW release something in WD at the same time the model hits allowing all Marine Chapters to use it.

At the very least, something for Apocalypse.

Which might be the way they go, at least until the 6th Edition Marine Codex.

Platuan4th wrote:

mrsako wrote:The model for Asgorath is a great pose. Although... I think it would look cooler with a two-handed sword over an axe. Hrm... maybe if it was converted with the nemesis force sword from a GK Terminator... *ponder*

I have a feeling Astaroth has a two-handed axe for one reason:

Yep , when i first saw the name ( but not the picture yet ) i was thinking the same!

Alpharius wrote:But really, I would NOT be surprised to see GW release something in WD at the same time the model hits allowing all Marine Chapters to use it.

They did for the Emperor's Champion the first time around, so there's certainly a precedent for it.

They want to sell miniatures.
Deepstriking landraiders = every 12 year old's wet dream.
Of course every other SM chapter will be allowed to use it (except for DAs and their successors because GW studio loves to punish the emo marines of the 41st millenium)

Alpharius wrote:But really, I would NOT be surprised to see GW release something in WD at the same time the model hits allowing all Marine Chapters to use it.

At the very least, something for Apocalypse.

Which might be the way they go, at least until the 6th Edition Marine Codex.

Apocalypse lets you use anything you damn well please, so I don't see them even needing to do a WD spread about it. I'd be almost disappointed in GW if they didn't try to sell me that kit though, whenever it comes out.

Scottywan82 wrote:

coolguyswhositathome wrote:Hey guys, check out part 2 of the unboxing for a closer look at some of the units and sprue and if you like our video's please subscribe. We have a contest this month where one random and lucky subscriber wins a 30$ box set of their set of their choice.

Can I just say? If you guys are going to continue doing this?

The word is Sprue, not Sprew.

And the Veteran Sergeant is quite obviously holding a hand flamer, not a combi-flamer.

I'd also be better if y'all used more descriptive words. For instance "The nice detail on the scabbard." I hate to sound like my 2nd grade English teacher but what kind of detail, what does it look like?
Saying how cool something is doesn't help anyone, but explaining what you see (that we can't) makes an informative video.

insaniak wrote:

Alpharius wrote:But really, I would NOT be surprised to see GW release something in WD at the same time the model hits allowing all Marine Chapters to use it.

They did for the Emperor's Champion the first time around, so there's certainly a precedent for it.

I don't see that happening with today's GW. They have a hatred for cross codex reading nowadays. otherwise current BA would use the new storm shield rules.
Sorry you'll just have to live without the new over priced skimmer

Wraithlordmechanic wrote:

insaniak wrote:

Alpharius wrote:But really, I would NOT be surprised to see GW release something in WD at the same time the model hits allowing all Marine Chapters to use it.

They did for the Emperor's Champion the first time around, so there's certainly a precedent for it.

I don't see that happening with today's GW. They have a hatred for cross codex reading nowadays. otherwise current BA would use the new storm shield rules.
Sorry you'll just have to live without the new over priced skimmer

I bet we're paying 10-15 points per BLOOD MISSILE OF BLOOD AND MORE BLOOD. BLOOD.


Remove please and give me 150 point skimmer.

i just want to say

DEEPSTRIKING LAND RAIDERS!!!!! that is all

Wraithlordmechanic wrote:

insaniak wrote:

Alpharius wrote:But really, I would NOT be surprised to see GW release something in WD at the same time the model hits allowing all Marine Chapters to use it.

They did for the Emperor's Champion the first time around, so there's certainly a precedent for it.

I don't see that happening with today's GW. They have a hatred for cross codex reading nowadays. otherwise current BA would use the new storm shield rules.
Sorry you'll just have to live without the new over priced skimmer

Today's GW is all about making money (as was yesterday's GW, but they were a bit more... friendly about it!) - so you can count on cross-pollination of Storm Ravens, sooner rather than later.

Wraithlordmechanic wrote:I don't see that happening with today's GW. They have a hatred for cross codex reading nowadays. otherwise current BA would use the new storm shield rules.

It wasn't cross codex reading with the Emperor's Champion. They simply published his rules in White Dwarf for everyone to use.

Pics of some assembled Blood Angels from my local GWS:






I can't wait to get these models. They are absolutely amazing! I'm really impressed with the sanguinary guard. I thought the angel wings would look stupid, but I was really impressed.

The more I look at this new Blood Angels Codex the more I'm convinced it's a Hickory Farms catalogue instead of a 40K Codex. I thought the Blood Angels book was bad for 3rd edition, but the only book I've seen since then that is just as bad or worse is the new 5th edition Blood Angels book. It is really over the top even for the way Codex design has been going for the past year or two. This opinion is being echoed by an awful lot of people I've discussed it with, people who also normally aren't that critical of recent "Codex creep". What level of cheese can they go to from here after Blood Angels? It boggles the mind.

On a more positive note, the new plastic models are more finely done and exciting than ever, which is saying something because plastics have been great for a few years now. I'm really looking forward to seeing what other plastic magic the GW studio will produce for the rest of this year.

I was looking at the dex today at a GW store and I was wondering why they brought back Fear the Darkness as a psychic power? It was brutal in fourth ed on some armies.

What level of cheese can they go to from here after Blood Angels? It boggles the mind.

I'm curious, when very competitively minded players criticise this codex for being underwhelming or based on the rumours perhaps even underpowered do you just skip over those posts, try not to read them and erase their existence from your memory and continue to whine about codex creep? I mean if people call something underpowered and others call it overpowered, assuming both parties know atleast something about the game, it should be something in between, right?

Like sourclams said, there have to be some additional special rules we don't know of or across the board points reductions on assault troopers like jump packers, for most of the BA stuff to be competitive at all.

All in all, fact is that Warhammer 40K has never been as balanced as it is now, and codex releases have never been as interesting as they are now (new units and vehicles and tons of new special rules/strategies each release -- not just the same old crap with a few changes in statlines and points costs). The sky isn't falling. Considering that GW has drastically changed the way they design 40K army books from the last two editions I'm very curious what the new Eldar and Tau books will look like. At this pace, even completely new Aspects, grav-tanks, battlesuits, alien auxilia/kroot monsters etc, wouldn't be out of the question. Especially as GW clearly doesn't think releasing models for new units is a requirement in army design. Something I totally agree with by the way.

The Blood Angels codex is anything but broken. It's actually well balanced vs. the other current 5th edition codexes without being over the top. I find it funny that again we're hearing screams of "codex creep" and "cheese" when 40k is actually very, very balanced right now (assuming your not playing DH or Necrons). I love new codex screaming

::edit:: Dang it! Ninja'd by Therion......

I haven't been this excited for new toys since my 6th Christmas many many years ago. I'll be filling my closet with BA boxes come release day. As far as the codex goes, I'll reserve judgement until I see it myself. So far, I'm glad that we pay for Death Company like every other unit. I'm disappointed that there's still the random element of rolling a d6 for FC/ Fearless vs. ATSKNF. I hate random abilities and would much prefer a simple point cost for extra abilities.

I probably won't see the new codex until I buy it so I'd really appreciate some help on the following:
1) Assault and Standard Terminator unit entry or just 1 entry with all options freely mixed?
2) How many heavy weapons available for Terminator squads? AC, HF and CML?
3) Razorbacks- In or out as rumored? Available to which units?
4) What units can take Land Raiders as dedicated transports?
5) Can Troop Assault squads drop their jump packs for transports?
6) If yes, what dedicated transport options are available for them?
7) Confirmation on Elite Chaplains- Are they all Elite similar to Techmarines or are they an upgrade for Death Company? Something else entirely?

Plastic Mini questions:
1) Are there BA Chapter pads?
2) Which box do they come in?
3) How many in each box
4) Are there company pads (tear/ blood drops)?
5) Please describe them, ie. pads with 1 blood drop, 2 drops etc.
6) How many of each company pad/ box
7) Which boxes do they come in?

Thanks very much for any and all info.

*Edit* Cleaned up the format and added miniature questions.