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Storm Lord wrote:I'd say Tzeentch wouldn't want to win too much, if he did he'd have no rivals to scheme against and take all the fun out of his existance. Besides, none of their followers could do it alone.

Khorne: use a big gun against his manic HtH fighters
Tzeentch: Lots of HtH people, (blood angels) against them
Slaanesh: Turn the lights off, stay quiet and shoot, to prevent any stimulative stuff that slaanesh likes, destroying his purpose in the material universe
Nurgle: Throw medicine at them and watch them get better

There, the Imperiums master plan against the Chaos powers all summed up into a short paragraph even Orks could understand. Now too wait for the Inquisition to get me for letting out their defense secrets.

Wow, that just might work, btw Nurgle is immune to penicillin. Just so you know.

Space_hoppo wrote:Wow, that just might work, btw Nurgle is immune to penicillin. Just so you know.

You have tested this?

There is even for nurgle a cure.

Yes i have, at least the space marine comandments say that penicillin tipped bullets do not work, i suggest a light dosing of flame, followed by sending orks to life there, as a wierdboy looks similar to a great unclean one...

Space_hoppo wrote:Yes i have, at least the space marine comandments say that penicillin tipped bullets do not work, i suggest a light dosing of flame, followed by sending orks to life there, as a wierdboy looks similar to a great unclean one...

Yes,orks may be resilent enough to win a CC fight even if its totally unclean.

I say set orks alight and tehn attack the Nurgle people! Orks being immune to disease I beleive, having never heard of a peice of fungus needing Calpol or whatever

Burn out the disease with flamed orks,okay nurgle down.
Next to hit ruinous power =>
Khorne: invisible tau without any smell(little fishy ones) to shoot his frenzied one by one.

or, get them to fight each other and die, by running away! Should work, the last one might even kill himself-it has been known to happen. or, just set Kharn on them

Kharn is already set as last world eater and will berserk his way through abaddons army if no
other skulls are available.

Kharn is actually a really nice person if he is not inscane and in a bloodthirsty rage. He has a kill counter with current kills, total kills this campaign and high score in a battle. Even though he cant count past three as four sounds too close to gore, which means blood, thus driving him into a blood rage.

When Kharn meet Tarvitz he really was nice (the past,when he was first captain).
Today hes insane , a backwash of the brain-surgery i guess.
This kill counter must be dark age tech, actual a upgrade like this is worked out
like:" add a servitor to the job for 10 points each" .

Kharn: arrgh 1 dead, 2 dead, 3 dead, 4.... Gore? Waaagh! Blood for the blood God! Skulls for the Skull throne!

Space_hoppo wrote:Kharn: arrgh 1 dead, 2 dead, 3 dead, 4.... Gore? Waaagh! Blood for the blood God! Skulls for the Skull throne!

khorne survives ? Kharn supporting him with skulls forever? No way, if you kill his berserks and erase his demons
Kharn will lose his rage. - :S - -

Or, shoot Kharn, problem solved

Storm Lord wrote:Or, shoot Kharn, problem solved

If you shoot him,he returns. Kharn was already killed before.
(first at terra,i guess).

This time, use a Titan or two. Should do the job.

Now, having read the new Wd issue with the 5th ed stuff in, I found a peice of fluff which says the Golden throne is broken beyond repair, now that if anything shows the Imperium is screwed, soon to be bereft of its beloved Space Emporer

totally unfair, I have to wait a week to get my WD

Lazy translators, all of them

Yeah and the new rule book is baised around the decline of the Imperium of Man. And yes the golden throne is broke and the emperor is now dying again, he wont last too long.

Storm Lord wrote:I was thinking the other day about how the Imperium is going to fair in the 'years' to come. With Abbadon coming out the eye of Terror at the Head of so many Black Crusades, and the overly cheerful Tau and their Greater good assaulting the Eastern Fringe, and the Necrons and Ctan awakening in the middle of the Imperium its self how much longer can it actually last for?

Won't matter when the Thorians get everything pieced together and wake the Emperor up. All he does is chew bubble-gum and psychically flay folks, and Bazooka Joe was deemed heretical.

Space_hoppo wrote:Yeah and the new rule book is baised around the decline of the Imperium of Man. And yes the golden throne is broke and the emperor is now dying again, he wont last too long.

Dying again? He dies and dies and dies?
My emperor won't die as you wish,imperium may have hard times but will prevail.
Remember the majority of humans has never seen their emperor and its no problem if he cannot
walk again between his people.To have his cause in mind and knowing his sacrifice every citizen
will only fight harder without him.
Vengence for HH !

He may end up being a brain in a jar, which would be alot better off for him as he could ride around on tracks.

Space_hoppo wrote:He may end up being a brain in a jar, which would be alot better off for him as he could ride around on tracks.

don't mess with him, when space marines can be installed in dreads,the emperor fits in a titan!

But you just considered (in another thread) that the emperor is eternal and dies only to be reborn.
New emperor,new crusade!

Or he survives as spirit and leads unbound of time and space humanity in the oncoming storm.

Forget the Titan, make it a battleship! They may not want him to die, even though he is doomed to die and be re-born he hasn't actually told anyone about it, and if someone goes "Heya i'm the Emperor reborn." He would be killed.

Depends in his return location.He ventured under disguise before,
so he have to reach a person that can classify his identity.
There are a few left at some Marine chapters.

If hes not reborn,but inserted as machinespirit in a
battleship,he shall get the mightiest ever Made one.
A pre age of strife ultra-battleship is the minimum.

Like a iron clad with Void sields, able to kick any other ships ass in the warzone, it would be a good day for the Imperium.

Ok, a few things to say here:

Firstly: The Thorian theory of ressurecting the Emperor through the Illuminate and Sensei (sp?) people is only a theory, there is no gaurentee it'll work, and with most of the Inquisition against it, believing it to be heretical and therfor killing anyone involved or who mentions it, there is a good chance it will never happen, even if GW were willing to go into the future and wipe a few races out. besides, they wouldn't be able to get to the Imperial Palace and the Emperor without being shot out of Space and killing the Custodes, then if they Emp does come back he'll give them a butt whupping for killing his legion type marines.

Secondly: If the Emp dies this time he won't be able to get reborn through his own strength, his fight with Horus weakened him to much and left his soul drained of power, this time he would just die and have his soul eaten by one of the Chaos Gods, who would then be powerfull enough to destroy the Imperium from the warp and through the Imperial Church-who would be so demoralised the Emp was gone they would turn to Chaos Worship and bring Humanity to its knees.

Lastly: Should the Emp get up from the golden throne in any way there will be problems. firstly, the ruptured webway portal behind it will spill daemons into the heart of Terra, and overwhelm the newly awakened Emp killing him. (see above for consequences) Secondly the Astornomican, which uses the Emp for focusing their beacon will go out, not being able to use him out of the throne. This will make Interplanetary travel hard and slow, and any ships in the warp stuck there forever. WD mentions what happened once when it dimmed for a while in the July edition.

And, on another point, the Astronomican is getting weaker, maccarage is only just able to see it now. Soon the Eastern fringe will be lost to mankind, then the North, south and west if it continues. Cheerful stuff isn't it?

Maybe the emperor leaves the physical realm, but stays in spiritual existence.
He can lead and help those in need unbound of time and space then?

Gw cannot take the emperor out of 40k.To bad for any marine:
loyal marine: "for the emp...." oh,sorry
traitor marine: "death to the false emp..." grrr

You see? Too much work to reprint everything.

Storm Lord wrote:Firstly: The Thorian theory of ressurecting the Emperor through the Illuminate and Sensei (sp?) people is only a theory, there is no gaurentee it'll work, and with most of the Inquisition against it, believing it to be heretical and therfor killing anyone involved or who mentions it, there is a good chance it will never happen, even if GW were willing to go into the future and wipe a few races out. besides, they wouldn't be able to get to the Imperial Palace and the Emperor without being shot out of Space and killing the Custodes, then if they Emp does come back he'll give them a butt whupping for killing his legion type marines.

Oh ye of little faith...

Storm Lord wrote:Lastly: Should the Emp get up from the golden throne in any way there will be problems. firstly, the ruptured webway portal behind it will spill daemons into the heart of Terra, and overwhelm the newly awakened Emp killing him. (see above for consequences) Secondly the Astornomican, which uses the Emp for focusing their beacon will go out, not being able to use him out of the throne. This will make Interplanetary travel hard and slow, and any ships in the warp stuck there forever. WD mentions what happened once when it dimmed for a while in the July edition.

I'm actually curious about exactly how important the Imperial-Lighthouse function is. There was quite a bit of space travel prior to the Emperor turning into a couch potato, so it would seem like there would be someway to traverse the warp sans Imperial flashlight. In addition, if there is a way, I imagine the Emperor either already knows it or be able to figure it out quite quickly.

Maybe without the Emperor they will be no jucy worm of a person for the Warp Daemons to eat and they will go away. It is possible to ride in the warp, look at the Chaos they use it just fine. And the CSM cry for be.
"I hope the golden throne is silver now."
Muahahahaha!

Space_hoppo wrote:
"I hope the golden throne is silver now."
Muahahahaha!

Color of his throne matters not. It can be wood or crap if its only working.
More of interest is the time gw has chosen: 32.000-42.000 ? any guess?

oh, muahahahahaha! i'll say,isn't it.