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Kirk was killed at the age of 13. The unstoppable Kirk that trekkies know and love is actually a Callidus Assasin. (That's why the actor seems to change all the time!).

When the time comes, the Callidus will strike.

You gotta be pretty naive to think that the Federation doesnt have any ground forces to speak of.

...just because you dont hear much about them in a show about exploration.

(this whole arguement is being perpetuated by people that are just "making stuff up"...specially Lordhat)

you can cut the nerd rage in here with a small plastic butter knife

and my 10cents (because we have nothing smaller in Nz)

how would you phasers feel about a space marine ghost aka lost and the damned firehawks chapter? or send in a space hulk full of soul drinkers

or press the auto win button by sending in the pre heresy emperor lead imperial forces, with that I wouldnt care how strong the feds are when then entire might of mankind is back by twenty one (including the BIG E) and his 20 legions of super soldier psychos bearing down on the feds?

(I only did that because we are playing what if at the moment )

Hmmm, i remember an episode in Voyager.."Dragon's Teeth" was it?
About a uber race that got ganged up and hid underground in hybernation, they kept their military stuff underground...but I remember the most they showed off was their space ships making a mad dash to whatever corridor thingy of fast travelling....

Beerfart wrote:(this whole arguement is being perpetuated by people that are just "making stuff up"...specially Lordhat)

Ad Hominen FTW.

Maybe instead of insulting me you should prove me wrong?

Prove you wrong about what...all the garbage you're making up?

Sorry, don't have the time nor the inclination. It's easy enough to say however that since this is all BS (because its Science FICTION that we're talking about here) that nobody's proven themselves RIGHT about anything. Everything here is total conjecture. Why would one BOTHER to prove you wrong about stuff you're MAKING UP?

srs bsns

Beerfart wrote:Prove you wrong about what...all the garbage you're making up?

Sorry, don't have the time nor the inclination. It's easy enough to say however that since this is all BS (because its Science FICTION that we're talking about here) that nobody's proven themselves RIGHT about anything. Everything here is total conjecture. Why would one BOTHER to prove you wrong about stuff you're MAKING UP?

Why would you join a discussion merely to ambiguously insult someone? Tell me, what have I made up? I don't have a problem being wrong (some of us enjoy learning... ironically some of us enjoy learning about things with no practical applications )

Deadshane1 wrote:I'll tell you why 40k loses against Star Trek.

Because the security forces stand 25" away from the marine bolters. Also any vehicles stay at least 49" away from any lascannons.

but didnt you know the range on all of the Security forces guns are 12" and the tank drivers weapons are 36"

I can do this all day

INTERNET SPACESHIPS IS SRS BSNS! SO SAYETH LORD GWAR!

Back to ground forces, the federation has them there called Klingons, and Redshirts(gold shirts now) Secruity forces....
Also why would the federation develop phaser rifles if they didnt need ground forces....


But im going too start another topic now 40k vs the Rifts Systems look for it

Gwar! wrote:INTERNET SPACESHIPS IS SRS BSNS! SO SAYETH LORD GWAR!

all bows to Gwar the imacable

My god what have I done!despairs,despairs Such amount of nerd rage o my god!

it was exactly what you were looking for isn't it Ivan?

IvanTih wrote:My god what have I done!despairs,despairs Such amount of nerd rage o my god!

Nerd rage can be kind of entertaining in retrospect XD. Have you been to the Infinity Ward PC Boards? It's been highly entertaining me for weeks XD.

IvanTih wrote:My god what have I done!despairs,despairs Such amount of nerd rage o my god!

That was a joke Seven of Nine.Work on your sense of humor.
Angry marines will get their recruits.

nerd rage is helping with my hangover today while Im at work

StarGate wrote:Back to ground forces, the federation has them there called Klingons, and Redshirts(gold shirts now) Secruity forces....
Also why would the federation develop phaser rifles if they didnt need ground forces....


But im going too start another topic now 40k vs the Rifts Systems look for it

Please don't.. rifts is waaaaay to big and with each new book the power scope rises!

LordofHats wrote:PS: The Death Star was destroyed by a Proton torpedo, not a Photon Torpedo. And It wasn't the torpedo that really did it it was the explosion in the exhaust port causing a chain reaction. I still don't see how you're draw the conclusion that a randomly shot Photon Torpedo would blow the Death Star to bits.

Star Trek has these strange unheard of things (at least in Star Wars) known as "active scans" and "guided munitions" A photorp could easily fit down that 2m hole.

Seriously, Stewie said it best in the Family Guy Star Wars special... "Waiiiiit... isn't that kind of a serious design flaw?"

keezus wrote:

LordofHats wrote:PS: The Death Star was destroyed by a Proton torpedo, not a Photon Torpedo. And It wasn't the torpedo that really did it it was the explosion in the exhaust port causing a chain reaction. I still don't see how you're draw the conclusion that a randomly shot Photon Torpedo would blow the Death Star to bits.

Star Trek has these strange unheard of things (at least in Star Wars) known as "active scans" and "guided munitions" A photorp could easily fit down that 2m hole.

Seriously, Stewie said it best in the Family Guy Star Wars special... "Waiiiiit... isn't that kind of a serious design flaw?"

Well it's no bigger than a womp rat!

StarGate wrote: But im going too start another topic now 40k vs the Rifts Systems look for it

Don't do it... Rifts takes slowed magic-science to the Nth degree. Characters with HP in the MDC ranges. Personal armour with 1000's of MDC capacity. Hand guns that do D6x1000 MDC... SRSLY... Why won't you think of the children!

I love to say 40k would win but since both factions are Make believe so well never get a answer on anything like this (until somehow through movie magic that wb or the man Peter Jackson makes a movie 40k versus Star Trek final Reckoning)

Such a movie could be entertaining for its space battles. They'd show a bunch of Federation troops swooping around, firing torpedos and phasers, yelling commands, etc. Then they'd zoom out and you see they're poking an Imperial flahship that makes them look like gnats. You'd hear a voice,"Lord Admiral, the sensor operator reports multiple hits, but the chief tech-priest in the prow voild shield banks is adamant that we have recieved no damage."

They'd show a bunch of Federation troops yelling and charging, firing their phasers down a corridor at an unseen foe. The camera would pivot, showing a pair of Wolf Guard terminators calmly discussing the finer points of ale swigging as phasers bounce harmlessly of their armor.

They'd show a Federation captain looking at a platoon of captured Cadians (how the Federation managed this will never be known, and the scene will be widely regarded as one of the worst plot holes in cinematic history). The captain will calmly declare that the guardsman will be transported to a nearby planet for integration into Federation society. A week later, the same Federation captain will return to the planet, only to find that the integration was a disaster and that Commissar Yarrick is now the "acting planetary governor".

RustyKnight wrote:Such a movie could be entertaining for its space battles. They'd show a bunch of Federation troops swooping around, firing torpedos and phasers, yelling commands, etc. Then they'd zoom out and you see they're poking an Imperial flahship that makes them look like gnats. You'd hear a voice,"Lord Admiral, the sensor operator reports multiple hits, but the chief tech-priest in the prow voild shield banks is adamant that we have recieved no damage."

They'd show a bunch of Federation troops yelling and charging, firing their phasers down a corridor at an unseen foe. The camera would pivot, showing a pair of Wolf Guard terminators calmly discussing the finer points of ale swigging as phasers bounce harmlessly of their armor.

They'd show a Federation captain looking at a platoon of captured Cadians (how the Federation managed this will never be known, and the scene will be widely regarded as one of the worst plot holes in cinematic history). The captain will calmly declare that the guardsman will be transported to a nearby planet for integration into Federation society. A week later, the same Federation captain will return to the planet, only to find that the integration was a disaster and that Commissar Yarrick is now the "acting planetary governor".

Then the Space Wolf Terminators start to get annoyed and single handedly massiveness down to the last woman and child everyone aboard three or four Federation ships, just before Creed outflanks a Emperor Titan in Space behind a Borg Cube.

RustyKnight wrote:Such a movie could be entertaining for its space battles. They'd show a bunch of Federation troops swooping around, firing torpedos and phasers, yelling commands, etc. Then they'd zoom out and you see they're poking an Imperial flahship that makes them look like gnats. You'd hear a voice,"Lord Admiral, the sensor operator reports multiple hits, but the chief tech-priest in the prow voild shield banks is adamant that we have recieved no damage."

They'd show a bunch of Federation troops yelling and charging, firing their phasers down a corridor at an unseen foe. The camera would pivot, showing a pair of Wolf Guard terminators calmly discussing the finer points of ale swigging as phasers bounce harmlessly of their armor.

They'd show a Federation captain looking at a platoon of captured Cadians (how the Federation managed this will never be known, and the scene will be widely regarded as one of the worst plot holes in cinematic history). The captain will calmly declare that the guardsman will be transported to a nearby planet for integration into Federation society. A week later, the same Federation captain will return to the planet, only to find that the integration was a disaster and that Commissar Yarrick is now the "acting planetary governor".

You sir, are awesome.

This is the second if not the best thing I've seen come out of this thread (the Spock-Ork one a page or two back was pretty good I'm not sure which I find more entertaining ). Good show.

"And Creed was a master of tactics; a true genius in his field. So, it was the Lord Castellan that they chose to lead the reclamation of the false Terra. As his flagship approached the heretical mirage of Terra, Creed saw a Borg cube sliding into a defensive position. The captain of the Imperial vessle was stunned at the size of the box, but Creed was unimpressed. "Fear not, captain" he said, "for I have sent a mighty member of the adeptes titanicus to flank our foe." Lo and behold, as the Borg cube drifted closer, an Emperor titan was seen creeping along behind it. Just as the Borg cube prepard to fire, the entire cube shuddered violently before exploding into an uncountable mass of fragments. With a cheery wave, the mighy titan turned and began the baonbaonbardlement."

the imperium cannot lose this thread for we have Creed and baonbaonbardlement's even a thousand kirk spock hybrids could not stand up to that much win

"And then the Galactic Federation phased out."

Was that before or after they all lost their lascannons and stormbolters and mysteriously turned into Razorbacks?

Good thing it was only 5 penetrating hits from the sluggas.