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I don't think we could even make educated guesses as to the content of any future WH/SoB codex until we know the layout of the forthcoming DH/GK codex - that should give us some clues as to what direction GW plans to take with Inquisition units and hence how Inquisiton-heavy any SoB book would be.

Chimera_Calvin wrote:I don't think we could even make educated guesses as to the content of any future WH/SoB codex until we know the layout of the forthcoming DH/GK codex - that should give us some clues as to what direction GW plans to take with Inquisition units and hence how Inquisiton-heavy any SoB book would be.

Even then, from what I can tell they might actually stuff ALL of the Inquisition into the GK codex for all we know. Just because Grey Knights get stuffed with Inquisition crap doesn't mean that Sisters will, too.

Precisely the point - if they squeeze every conceivable Inquisition option in and call the book 'Codex:Inquisition' but allow pure GK armies to be made from it as a subset then its fair to say that SoB will get a pure Sisters/Ecclesiarchy book in the future.

If there is little/no Inquisition stuff and the book is primarily a Grey Knight codex, the future for the Inquisition is a lot less clear.

But they didn't undo the 'Chamber Militant of the Ecclesiarchy' in the Witchhunters codex, only emphasized their working together with the Inquisition.

Yeah but I wouldn't put such a change past GW. I think it's less a matter of fluff as it exists now and more a matter of fluff as it will exist to serve as an optimized moneymaker. IOW, they'll change it however they have to, to maximize revenue.

Personally, I would think it would be most profitable to have it be pure Sisters/Ecclesiarchy, with plastic Sisters and Frateris Militia. IG players would also be able to buy the frateris militia and use them as conscript models, and it means Inquisition players don't have their rules split over two codices so you could actually get more out of the Grey Knights / Inquisition codex as well.

Noone really knows how well a Sisters/Ecclesiarchy army would sell today... the second edition codex was released practically right before third edition, making it useless shortly after it was released.

"craptactular Inquision units"?
I beg to differ.
With 2250 pts of so-called crap-tactular units that I happen to win with.

I think the current iterations of DH/WH are far from useless. The DH are severely dated and need a new codex, but the WH can still do without.

VikingScott wrote:"craptactular Inquision units"?
I beg to differ.
With 2250 pts of so-called crap-tactular units that I happen to win with.

Which is probably land raider spam, and that I've found is actually pretty easy to counter.

Hilariously easy, in some cases. Well, for me anyway.

I own 1 land raider.
That is for my SMs actually

Whether they are competitive or not, people will still want to use them depending on their preferences (see: overcosted Storm Troopers ), but this isn't the place to dick-wave over what units you win with.

bhsman wrote:Whether they are competitive or not, people will still want to use them depending on their preferences (see: overcosted Storm Troopers ), but this isn't the place to dick-wave over what units you win with.

Correct.
And I am responding to melissa who said that i take raider spam. I do not

If you don't, I'd be amused to see how you get that many points in an army made entirely out of inquisitors, assassins, and stormtroopers. Seeing as those are the only units that are Inquisition.

Do sisters work with the Inquisition sometimes? Yes. Does every other Imperial faction work with the Inquisition sometimes? Yes (even the Dark Angels have on the siege of Vraks).

When ever the sisters decided to take major action, like a war of faith (equivalent of a space marine crusade), it's the sisters and some fanatics who are in it. The Inquisition stays out of it, just keeping an eye on certain Cardinals to make sure they don't get to powerful. This is why I would like to see sisters get their own codex. Hell even daemons of chaos got their own codex.

maybe we'll get lucky and sisters will get sisters of silence as an elite anti psychic unit.... a man can dream

Melissia wrote:If you don't, I'd be amused to see how you get that many points in an army made entirely out of inquisitors, assassins, and stormtroopers. Seeing as those are the only units that are Inquisition.

You forgot Daemonhosts. And I just did it with one land raider. I could drop that and it would be slightly trickier, but definitely doable.

WH not DH so no Deamonhosts

Correct, no daemonhosts. Daemonhunters are a bit easier to build a list for, but not by much (C: DH is one of the weaker codices overall).

Whoops. Foot in mouth then.

Every non-GK list should field at least 6 Death Cult Assassins.

Melissia wrote:If you don't, I'd be amused to see how you get that many points in an army made entirely out of inquisitors, assassins, and stormtroopers. Seeing as those are the only units that are Inquisition.

Maybe its those 80+ point Chimera's that Witchhunters use and the crazy wargear that Veteran IS Sergeants have access to.

Come on guys, don't forget about the Penitent engine, the acro-flagellants and the priests. Those could fill up lots of points. Just think of it, 9 penitent engines and 3 squads of acro-flagellants.

That being said we should probably move these posts to another topic.

Technicly those are not Inq as they priests are required to take both penitant engines or acro-flagellants

Right, Arcos and P.Engines are both Ecclesiarchal units-- IE, they belong in a Sisters army, not an Inquisition one.

I do hope the SoB get their own codex. I also hope they change their fluff a bit cause to be honest it turns me off from wanting to play them.

Whats wrong with there fluff? There Fluff is awesome besides the fact they don't have to much.

Nobzey wrote:I do hope the SoB get their own codex. I also hope they change their fluff a bit cause to be honest it turns me off from wanting to play them.

What do you want then?
Large portions of fluff about them rubbing holy oils into each other?
Seriously now, some fluff is gak others is good.
Sisters I thought was so-so.

There is nothing wrong with the fluff, it just was a bit too extreme for my tastes. How blind they could be in the line of duty. I know people who love how extreme they became. I like the idea of things not being just black or white. Their fluff on the other hand is very black and white haha.

Pretty much all imperial fluff is black and white.. This is nothing new nor do I think it will change

Its a xenophobic militant theocracy (the entire imperium).. That doesnt lend well to "differing ideas"

... except for the fluff that states there are a great deal of cults in the Imperium, each one worshipping the Emperor in a different way, and all of them are supposedly under the banner of the Ecclesiarchy.

Eg. Standard cult of the emperor, The Redemption, Cult of the Star Child. don't know others