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Repentia need a lot of fixing. A 4+ inv save, an extra attack, fleet instead of crazy, attacking at I on the charge with I4, going in a vehicle... pick 2 or so and take them down about 5-10 points and you are probably good to go. That is actually a pretty tall order when you really think of it, more because GW doesn't like to do that sort of thing usually, unless Phil Kelly writes it. Considering they are basically a poor man's burna, it isn't too far off though.

My own fix was to drop them by five points, give them FNP and a 5++ invulnerable save, Fleet, and being able to ride in transports (however, they cannot assault after disembarking-- I tried to balance my fandex out so that both footslogging and mechanized Sisters were competitive and had advantages over the other).

Sisters need a lot of stuff done to them, and they have a TON of room for expansion. A creative writer could take Sisters and EASILY make them into a thirty unit codex.

Melissia wrote:My own fix was to drop them by five points, give them FNP and a 5++ invulnerable save, Fleet, and being able to ride in transports (however, they cannot assault after disembarking-- I tried to balance my fandex out so that both footslogging and mechanized Sisters were competitive and had advantages over the other).

Sisters need a lot of stuff done to them, and they have a TON of room for expansion. A creative writer could take Sisters and EASILY make them into a thirty unit codex.

This is why i'm starting to respect you...

Really wish they would update the sisters as well...but it seems they'll be put on hold for a while longer...

I'm glad they didn't TBH. I'd rather wait another year than have my army stuffed into a half-arsed combined codex that mashes three factions into the same codex, with ten or so units per faction (Sisters currently have eleven, by the way-- meaning in a combined codex it's unlikely they'd be expanded at all). Which would be far, far more likely than them giving the combined codex two or three times as many unit options and special characters than C:SM (thirty units per faction is about the norm for a fifth edition codex).

[edit: clarified]

Right?

I don't want my Knights slightly decreased in points and just used as backup for sisters...I am happy that all of us specialist Inquisitorial generals get the unique expansions we deserve. Create both full Codexes and then expand upon the possibility of Inquisitioning from those books.

Melissia wrote:My own fix was to drop them by five points, give them FNP and a 5++ invulnerable save, Fleet, and being able to ride in transports (however, they cannot assault after disembarking-- I tried to balance my fandex out so that both footslogging and mechanized Sisters were competitive and had advantages over the other).

Sisters need a lot of stuff done to them, and they have a TON of room for expansion. A creative writer could take Sisters and EASILY make them into a thirty unit codex.

why on earth do they deserve an invul save? i can understand the FNP but the invul is quote mary sue for a bunch of low tech almost naked non-psychic people with the same training as normal sisters (so supernatural reflexes can be an excuse like with assassins, both imp and death cult).

warboss wrote:

Melissia wrote:My own fix was to drop them by five points, give them FNP and a 5++ invulnerable save, Fleet, and being able to ride in transports (however, they cannot assault after disembarking-- I tried to balance my fandex out so that both footslogging and mechanized Sisters were competitive and had advantages over the other).

Sisters need a lot of stuff done to them, and they have a TON of room for expansion. A creative writer could take Sisters and EASILY make them into a thirty unit codex.

why on earth do they deserve an invul save? i can understand the FNP but the invul is quote mary sue for a bunch of low tech almost naked non-psychic people with the same training as normal sisters (so supernatural reflexes can be an excuse like with assassins, both imp and death cult).

I think the idea was faith. I could buy it either way, although 5+ FNP would be fine too.

They don't wear armor, so I wasn't going to give them an armor save. Removing the invulnerable save would have necessitated a further price reduction.

still though, i think they deserve at least a 6+ armor save... or if not that then a 4+ feel no pain

Err, last I checked Feel No Pain IS effectively a 4+ save (which can be taken ontop of another save, unlike invulnerable/cover/armor).

Feel no Pain makes sense but an armour doesn't. I mean their not really wear clothes. I can understand Invu save to, it might show their ability to dodge attacks.

Necrosis wrote:Feel no Pain makes sense but an armour doesn't. I mean their not really wear clothes. I can understand Invu save to, it might show their ability to dodge attacks.

catchans aren't really wearing armor either yet they still receive a 5+ save. just food for thought

They wear flak armour.

how can you justify that? the models have t shirts and some have no shirts at all yet they still get that armor save

The point is sister Repentias "Fluff wise" do not wear armour while Catachans are suppose to wear flak armour. Catachans are suppose to be the same as Cadians rule wise and Cadians wear armour.

cadians wear carapace armor, read their actual fluff instead of what was written in the lastest guard codex. just as catachans were little to no armor... this is exactly why i liked the old guard codex so that could be represented, though that book did take out griffons which made me cry. however this is entierly off topic and should be moved to a PM discussion or to the general off topic forum. in either case i hope the inquisition gets updated soon

If there are no news and rumours about Sororitas, why not close this thread?
The discussion about alternative rules for Repentia should be in another subforum.

Kroot's right. My only news is that they FINALLY got the 10 box of Sisters to "this item is no longer available." Looks like things are even harder on starting Sisters collectors. Also, I doubt it means much, but my local black shirt said that they're getting updated soon.

Don't worry, you'll be able to get a nice free PDF codex for those nonexistent/unavailable/overpriced models!!!

Cool, no?


Phil

Kroothawk wrote:If there are no news and rumours about Sororitas, why not close this thread?

This thread is called "Inquisition". Technically speaking, depending on your definition of the term (whether you consider servants or allies of the Inquisition to also be "inquisition"), this can include Inquisitors, =][=STs, assassins, deathwatch, grey knights, sisters, space marines, imperial guard, and anyone else the Imperium can strong-arm or negotiate into assisting them.

Lol, just noticed. Btw, I just saw a thread up for the recently mentioned free PDF codexes.

Meh, not like it matters. Both codices are kinda crappy as they are right now. I'll get excited once we have some REAL news...

Melissia wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:If there are no news and rumours about Sororitas, why not close this thread?

This thread is called "Inquisition". Technically speaking, depending on your definition of the term (whether you consider servants or allies of the Inquisition to also be "inquisition"), this can include Inquisitors, =][=STs, assassins, deathwatch, grey knights, sisters, space marines, imperial guard, and anyone else the Imperium can strong-arm or negotiate into assisting them.

Okay, let me rephrase:
There are no news & rumours about 40k Inquisitors, Inquisition Storm Troopers, assassins, deathwatch, Sororitas, Space marines and Imperial Guard. Grey Knights have their own threads, but even these are close because of lack of news & rumours. So this thread is obsolete as well.

Lack of news and rumors here anyway. I've seen a Daemonhunters thread updated regularly (IE several times a month, which is fairly regular if you think about it) on the BoLS Lounge.

Keeping the thread open for future rumors is a good idea, unless you wish there to be a new thread created every time a new rumor comes out.

Well, we already have 2-3 open GK threads at the moment and will have 10 more when new rumours come out, all of them with no question mark in the title.
And when new rumours for Sororitas come out in 12-24 months, I for my part won't search for this thread.

Also, when some actual "news & rumors" come out about Sororitas (or any other sub section of the Inquisition/whatever), nobody is going to be interested in rummaging through 9+ pages of unrelated wish-mongering to get to the actual new stuff.

At least one page of which is taken up by whining about this very subject, yes?

I do believe we've reached the point were this thread has just about collapsed under its own weight.

Snarky comments and sniping at each other are usually a good sign of this.

Signing off!