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DarknessEternal wrote:The quality of the miniatures....are better than ever.

I can agree to this. It could justify the higher prices on the new models.

But raising the prices of the older ones just doens't make sense unless they believe they can still sell and make a profit on the miniatures.

Killamop wrote:What happened to getting on with your life?

Yeah! How dare people have opinions about the stuff they spend thousands of dollars on! If someone complains about the business they've been loyally supporting for years jerking them around, they must not have a life!

it's a hobby, a luxury an enjoyable way to pass the time.

And what's that got to do with the price of chips? Most of my hobbies have gone down in price over the years despite the quality of the product increasing with technology. Certainly none have increased in price far faster than the inflation rate, while simultaneously adopting cheaper materials.

They don't NEED to do any of this. They enjoy it. So man the skak up and get on with it.

What exactly are you even trying to say here? GW is doing us a service simply by existing and we should thank them for selling us anything at all?

Killamop wrote:This seems mildly childish guys? like I understand the frustration at the price increase (and a source would be nice one that btw) but at the end of the day you either play the hobby or you don't. If you have constructive criticism to give them then write a well thought out, reasonable and most importantly FACT FILLED email to HQ. Don't fill their FB page with infantile crap.
I will continue to support my local GW and will keep buying models (albeit at a slightly slower rate). What happened to getting on with your life? it's a hobby, a luxury an enjoyable way to pass the time. They don't NEED to do any of this. They enjoy it. So man the skak up and get on with it.

Next time you go to buy something, I punch you in the gut and take $5 extra.

Why you mad? Deal with it. Just get on with your life.

For shame a business try to make money. What's the world coming to.

"Anakin... you're breaking my heart!"

That's what I want to say to GW.

Like someone else said on another thread, it's almost like they roll a D6 which consistently lands on screw/piss off the customers.

ph34r wrote:

Killamop wrote:This seems mildly childish guys? like I understand the frustration at the price increase (and a source would be nice one that btw) but at the end of the day you either play the hobby or you don't. If you have constructive criticism to give them then write a well thought out, reasonable and most importantly FACT FILLED email to HQ. Don't fill their FB page with infantile crap.
I will continue to support my local GW and will keep buying models (albeit at a slightly slower rate). What happened to getting on with your life? it's a hobby, a luxury an enjoyable way to pass the time. They don't NEED to do any of this. They enjoy it. So man the skak up and get on with it.

Next time you go to buy something, I punch you in the gut and take $5 extra.

Why you mad? Deal with it. Just get on with your life.

People are frustrated not because they hate GW but because they actually care about their hobby and don't want to see GW Corporate continue on the path they are on and run things into the ground. This is the eternal problem big business seems to have with the Internet, they can't see past the exaggerated raging and simply dismiss everything rather than realising that there is actually some very helpful feedback being given.

DarknessEternal wrote:For shame a business try to make money. What's the world coming to.

There's a difference between a business trying to make money and a business seeing how much crap it can get away with. Prices in Australia and new Zealand are double the prices the rest of the world pays, simply because GW can get away with it? A price increase on a wide selection of models, after they have been transferred to a cheaper manufacturing technique? Consistently taking steps to alienate their own customer base? That is not the conduct of a company trying to do well in the current recession. That is a company trying to maximize short-term profits to the detriment of their customers and themselves.

You guys should not bother with facebook, at all. Even if they cared at all about the opinions of the internet, which they most emphatically do not, even the most concisely written, impassioned argument carefully crafted with 15 minutes of loving writing only takes 2 clicks to delete.

Ouze wrote:You guys should not bother with facebook, at all. Even if they cared at all about the opinions of the internet, which they most emphatically do not, even the most concisely written, impassioned argument carefully crafted with 15 minutes of loving writing only takes 2 clicks to delete.

Yes... write them a letter physically!

DarknessEternal wrote:For shame a business try to make money. What's the world coming to.

There's a huge difference between a company taking profits and price gouging it's customers.

Vimes wrote:Yeah, I´m wondering the whole time myself: How the heck could they believe that bringing all those news in rapid succession would be any good?

... .

It got the Chapter House case out of the headlines.

Pure coincidence I am sure.

Let's get Anonymous to DDoS the GW website.
Maybe it will go the way of PSN...

I don't think I've ever seen a hobby company so disturbingly out of touch, not only with it's loyal fans but with the world in general.

It's such a crying shame that this once great company that bought so much fun into our lives is now all but the bane of the very hobby it created but I don't care anymore, I'm not even living in the affected countries but I am done here. There are better things to spend my money on and to spend my time worrying about.

WarOne wrote:Who the heck is that Jeff Minor guy?

why is he defending GW by calling the "whiners" poor and unable to afford the game?

Because some people get off on that. "Oh, I see you drive a Ford, well I guess you couldnt afford a BMW like me", that sort of thing. Snobbery. I can see some TFG in a store somewhere saying "AH a Warmachine player, you should get a better job so you can step up to a premium game system like 40k, like I play".

I sent an e-mail too the metro herald (a free newspaper in Ireland, its reallys popular, like REALLY popular) they might run a story, probably not, but its something anyway

The false sense of entitlement in this thread is staggering.

DarknessEternal wrote:The false sense of entitlement in this thread is staggering.

Any chance of some specifics on this? I'm not really seeing any.

People are complaining because prices are rising yet again despite cheaper materials and processes being used, massive reductions in services (through closure of stores, cutting down remaining stores to 1 man shops, etc), stopping people from paying the same price as UK/US customers who live in the ROW group rather than absurd local prices, etc.

All are extremely valid complaints.

Please, I await your insights into this.

SilverMK2 wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:The false sense of entitlement in this thread is staggering.

Any chance of some specifics on this? I'm not really seeing any.

People are complaining because prices are rising yet again despite cheaper materials and processes being used, massive reductions in services (through closure of stores, cutting down remaining stores to 1 man shops, etc), stopping people from paying the same price as UK/US customers who live in the ROW group rather than absurd local prices, etc.

All are extremely valid complaints.

Please, I await your insights into this.

He is trying to troll by posting a deliberately inflammatory and contradictory opinion. Please don't feed the trolls.

filbert wrote:Please don't feed the trolls.

But he looks so hungry :(

Thread title: "Let GW know you care ..."

Unfortunately, after these most recent antics, I find I no longer care about GW. Another one (vet) bows out after 20+ years with GW. Sorry, the "Fun Factor" has finally been crushed by the sweeping incompetence of GW management.

"On the 16th of May 2011 Maelstrom Games announced that Games Workshop had revised the terms and conditions of their trade agreement with independent stockists in the UK[21]. The new terms and conditions restrict the sale of all Games Workshop products to within the European Union, Norway and Switzerland"


What... Really? So now I can't get models at a some what fair price brand new.... I don't want to be spending $62 for a box of marines... not to mention a price rise... I just can't afford to dare keep up with this hobby anymore... This is indeed sad.

the GW web team has responded on the GW facebook page hehe.

Hi everyone,

Well, we can see that there are quite a few of you with strong feelings about several issues, and the threads have gone a little crazy. We’re sorry many of you feel frustrated. We have read all of your comments and because we (the web dudes) don’t have the power to act on any of them, be assured that we have passed your comments on to the higher levels of management in GW.

We want to continue posting pictures of your fantastic miniatures, and link to hobby related items. We would like future threads to remain relevant to the topic in question, so everyone else can have their voice heard and enjoy the discussions about the hobby we all love.

We’ve got your comments both in this thread and on those older posts, which will remain open for you to carry on the conversation there – please, feel absolutely free to do so, we will indeed read them. But in any new threads, we want to celebrate the creative efforts of others. Any comments that stray off topic will be removed.

Just remember that we must remove any strong language and abusive users, in consideration of our youngest fans.

The web team.


That's for everyone to see now

I just saw that and LOLed.

Well, as someone said, it's something. As ever recognition ever been achieved by GW customers before?!

I quit Magic the Gathering after years of BS like this with GW. When the most expensive staple cards for a Standard deck went from $25.00 to $90.00+, I figured it was time to jump ship. People still play the game despite the problems, but I have noticed a significant decline in the Friday Night Magic attendance and the new set prereleases. Eventually the game will quit due to a "decrease in sales". "Nobody is buying our game anymore. Waaaaaa!"

I am late to respond to this but I would just like to state that this is not even close to being true. I am an avid tournament player for Magic. Back in 2007, there was a Grand Prix in Dallas/Fort Worth that had a little over 700 people attend. There was another Grand Prix in Dallas/Fort Worth earlier this year that had nearly 1500 people attend. All of the Grand Prixs have sky-rocketed in attendence and the upstart of the Starcity Games Open series has been a huge shot of adrenaline to the tournament scene for Magic. The FNM's that my local store have been getting have been through the roof since several years ago. This might not be the case everywhere, but I can at least say it is so for my FLGS.

Now, as for 40k, it has been dying off around my local store. Will this recent price hike kill off interest at my FLGS? In my opinion, only slightly.

DarknessEternal wrote:For shame a business try to make money. What's the world coming to.

There is a big difference between making a profit and gouging your customer base. Sooner or later GW is going to realize that difference. I only hope it isn't too late to fix it.

GW's incompetence , high prices , arrogance and treatment of players has caused me to lose the tiny amount of respect I used to have for the company , their are others who offer miniatures of the quality and a better price while Games Workshops overly high prices and ridiculous rules have really damaged the fans of their games.

Mad4Minis wrote:"Oh, I see you drive a Ford, well I guess you couldnt afford a BMW like me", that sort of thing.

"Oh, I see you drive a BMW, well I guess you couldn't afford a Land Raider like me!"