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Horus was nearly killed by a bureaucrat with a fancy chaos sword. Draigo walked into the Garden of Nurgle and burnt it to the ground WITH THE POWER OF HIS MIND.

Which seems more powerful to you?

Sanguinius ftw because... well... he's amazing...

Void__Dragon wrote:Yes I'm sure the Emperor was definitely toying with Horus when Horus cut his chest open.

Or when Horus ripped his jugular out with a power claw.

Or when Horus burned the Emperor with lightning until one of the Emperor's eyes popped.

Or when Horus ripped one of the Emperor's arms off.

Or when Horus broke the wrist on his remaining arm, lifted him into the air, and snapped his spine over his knee.

Remember that part when The Emperor killed Horus? That was pretty cool.

But in all seriousness, this isn't really a thread so much as a foregone conclusion. Horus was the only Primarch with enough strength to take on the Emperor, therefore he is the strongest Primarch. This isn't even a question, it's just an excuse to say Horus' name a lot. Heresy.

No, I made this thread to see Dakka's opinion of who the most powerful Primarch is.

It's not an opinion though. It's canon.

True, but I wanted to see what everyone said. Wow, Horus sure is popular.

Are we going with the Crusade at the height of its power, or by the end of the Heresy, when many Primarchs are dead?

Because that was Horus with the blessings and powers of every Chaos God. He was quite a bit more powerful than he would have been prior to that.

We are going for: Which Primarch is the most Powerful, ever.

Horus is not the most powerful primarch he needed to be amped by Chaos to even come close to the emperor in power.
I would say Magnus is the most powerful

thenoobbomb wrote:I cannot stand that that dumb Space Puppie is higher then Sabguinus

Sanguinius was the most pure, had the most psyking power and should have been warmaster, as he just wanted peace, unlike other Primarchs who wanted eternal war. Khorne loonies they are.

Magnus the Red was by far the most powerful psyker among the Primarchs. This can't even be argued, honestly.

gpfunk wrote:Remember that part when The Emperor killed Horus? That was pretty cool.

But in all seriousness, this isn't really a thread so much as a foregone conclusion. Horus was the only Primarch with enough strength to take on the Emperor, therefore he is the strongest Primarch. This isn't even a question, it's just an excuse to say Horus' name a lot. Heresy.

The Emperor did indeed kill Horus. But he was not "toying" with Horus either, subconsciously, he just couldn't bring his full power to bare on his favored son, his full power which was directly stated to be necessary.

Counting Horus with the full backing of Chaos is stupid. Because that's completely inarguable. But before he had the backing of Chaos, it is. IMO it is Magnus the Red who would be strongest, followed by Horus, Angron, and Sanguinius, or so. Not counting Chaos tomfoolery of course. Because that makes it kind of unfair.

Ogryn wrote:True, but I wanted to see what everyone said. Wow, Horus sure is popular.

He's not popular. It's simply canon that he IS the best Primarch. He may not be able to best Magnus in a one on one, but he generally the best of the Primarchs. That's why he was picked to be the Warmaster.

Void__Dragon wrote:

Durza wrote:In fairness to Fulgrim, he wasn't exactly in optimal condition when they fought, and regardless of the daemon, was unwilling to kill his brother. Manus, on the other hand, viewed Fulgrim as a brother no more. If both had brought their A-game, I'd say it would have been a fight to standstill if the daemon didn't intervene.

How was Fulgrim not in optimal condition? And he was very much fighting to kill his brother for the first part of the fight. One does not swing a massive thunder hammer at someone's temple without the intent to kill. Manus survived that blow due to his sheer toughness.

I need to re read Fulgrim before I can say this with any certainty, but IIRC, he didn't want to fight his brother, semi-gave up half way through, was pretty close to insane and had been doing a lot of drugs. Again, it could have just been my take on it, but his heart didn't seem to be in it.

Who was Fulgrim's brother?

Leman Russ!!! rules over all, praise the all farther and all that

Russ is a fat drunk.

Ogryn wrote:Who was Fulgrim's brother?

The primarchs were all brothers. Or they called themselves that.

Primarchs were genetically engineered by the Emperor, they are literal brothers. They were grown in test tubes though, they didn't come out of the same woman.

Primarchs weren't born from woman....

If that was a grammatical joke then that's what I meant, as in the same mother, 1 person, a woman.

As far as I am aware they were all test tube babies but are still blood brothers.

iproxtaco wrote:He's not popular. It's simply canon that he IS the best Primarch. He may not be able to best Magnus in a one on one, but he generally the best of the Primarchs. That's why he was picked to be the Warmaster.

True enough.

Along with being among the strongest in martial combat, he also was a brilliant tactician and strategist, as well as a charismatic leader and diplomat.

Other Primarchs may of been better at specific areas than him, but Horus was the best overall.


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Durza wrote:I need to re read Fulgrim before I can say this with any certainty, but IIRC, he didn't want to fight his brother, semi-gave up half way through, was pretty close to insane and had been doing a lot of drugs. Again, it could have just been my take on it, but his heart didn't seem to be in it.

He only really stopped wanting to fight his brother the moment Ferrus Manus started kicking his ass. Manus took the hammer to the temple, and proceeded to nearly disembowel Fulgrim.

I'd say they were on par, personally.

Also Fulgrim had the upper hand as he had a Chaos possessed sword. Fulgrim really didn't want to kill Ferrus, they were noted as the two closest brothers out of all the Primarchs. It was the swords influence that tipped Fulgrim over the edge.
In fact Fulgrim is but a prisoner in his own body, it is possessed by the Demon from the sword.

Blood_Raven wrote:Also Fulgrim had the upper hand as he had a Chaos possessed sword. Fulgrim really didn't want to kill Ferrus, they were noted as the two closest brothers out of all the Primarchs. It was the swords influence that tipped Fulgrim over the edge.
In fact Fulgrim is but a prisoner in his own body, it is possessed by the Demon from the sword.

Wrong, Alpharius Omegon were closer . But all that other stuff is probably right.

Blood_Raven wrote:Also Fulgrim had the upper hand as he had a Chaos possessed sword. Fulgrim really didn't want to kill Ferrus, they were noted as the two closest brothers out of all the Primarchs. It was the swords influence that tipped Fulgrim over the edge.
In fact Fulgrim is but a prisoner in his own body, it is possessed by the Demon from the sword.

He wasn't using the sword until it literally jumped into his hand.

Which is the moment he started to win.

Fulgrim winning?

Horus for overall
Lemen russ or angron for physical prowess
Magnus for pyschic prowess
Lion for being so awesome (who else has a chapter with little yoda's running around?)

Lol, actually the Das are Emo monks.

you mean the watchers in the dark?

No, just the regular DAS.

Ah I was talking about the watchers in the dark being little yodas but your right about the DA