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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 01:53:03
Subject: Re:A matter of Sanity.
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BlaxicanX wrote:Explain how the Imperium would prevent the Galaxy Gun would destroy Terra or get out my face, man.
lol!
Who cares? You're clutching at straws, son. Lets simply say that the Emperor reacts to the incoming projectile by creating a warp rift for it to fly into.
Now, if we're done with dick-measuring and super-weapons, can we get back to comparing troops and ships of the line?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 01:54:19
Subject: Re:A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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BlaxicanX wrote:Alexzandvar wrote:
And detonating a retribution class Battleship would send everything in the enter Sector plunging into the warp.
That's nice. Good thing a Retribution class battleship can be destroyed from the other side of the galaxy.
Literally, for every ship the Empire kills they just have a bigger and bigger problem on their hands.
And with Terra and Mars destroyed the Imperium would cave in on itself. The Empire wouldn't need to destroy any ships.
No to mention how on Earth you would get even the smallest craft anywhere near Holy Terra with out authorization?
Are you really going to make me repeat myself? What part of "The Galaxy Gun can blow up planets that are on the other side of the galaxy" is so hard to understand? The range of its beam is literally "from one side of the galaxy to the other". The Galaxy Gun doesn't have to be anywhere near Terra. It can be ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GALAXY FROM TERRA, and blow it up with a push of a button. The Sun Crusher, MAKES SUNS GO SUPERNOVA. It doesn't have to be anywhere NEAR Terra. Pop out of hyperspace a thousand miles from the sun, press a button, and boom the sun goes supernova. Five seconds; no where near Terra. I don't understand why I need to repeat these things.
As for Tadashi's tripe about the Grey Knights. Here's the quote about the Prognosticar's abilities.
"As they are sensitive to the fluctuations to the Warp which allows them to detect the psychic tremors that are inherent in daemonic incursions into realspace. Thus, a Prognosticar is capable of determining the location and severity of such an event."
Prognosticars are used to track DEMONS. A "daemonic incursion" is referring to when a daemon or daemons enter real space from the warp. THAT'S what they are able to pick up, hence the Grey Knights specialization in hunting daemons. THe prognosticars don't just sense "everything in the galaxy" by feeling it in the warp.
The Emperor can still crush the pilot's mind the moment he arrives. Then the Sun Crusher gets swallowed up by a warp portal opened by the other gods. And even if Prognosticars can't predict the Galaxy Gun, Librarians, Sorcerers, and Farseers can. Better yet, the gods can just unleash a warp storm at it's position.
"Good Morning, crew of the Galaxy Gun.
This is the Circles of Slaanesh public broadcasting system.
We hope you enjoy your eternal relaxation here, and thank you for never leaving.
Good Day."
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 01:54:47
Subject: Re:A matter of Sanity.
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Kaldor wrote:BlaxicanX wrote:Explain how the Imperium would prevent the Galaxy Gun would destroy Terra or get out my face, man. lol! Who cares? You're clutching at straws, son. Lets simply say that the Emperor reacts to the incoming projectile by creating a warp rift for it to fly into. Now, if we're done with dick-measuring and super-weapons, can we get back to comparing troops and ships of the line?
Agreed. The funny thing is Tzeench wouldn't allow that either and make an exit rift right next to the Galaxy gun. Face it the 40k universe wins.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:01:14
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Asherian Command wrote:That is to scale...
Yes that is to scale, on different scales...
A Retribution Class Battleship is about 12 centimetres long
In reality its about 15km long. If This is to be trusted.
Kaldor wrote:The 'earth' template is around 20cm across.
Which puts the earth at about 25km, when it should be 1000 times bigger than that.
So the scale of BFG is off, and the ships can not move that fast based on Kal's calculations.
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I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:04:36
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Still means 40k ships are larger than SW and ST ships. As for the Death Star, if we approach along the blind side, we can enough cyclonic torpedoes into it to blow it apart.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:14:33
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Considering the Executor is 17km long, I would say it would be a good fight.
Once you get the Eclipse-class Super Star Destroyer, and the Sovereign-class Super Star Destroyer involved in the discussion, then 40k does not stand a chance.
In fact if you add in the emperor than nothing could stand in the way of them.
How was the Eclipse was destroyed you ask? "It was destroyed when the Force storm Palpatine sent to destroy Luke Skywalker turned on Palaptine himself. The storm consumed Palpatine and eradicated the Eclipse."
The emperor used the force to try and kill luke, and instead eradicated the Eclipse, which is bigger than a 40K Retribution Class Battleship. no reason he could not do the same to everything else.
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I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:18:09
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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No reason why psykers cant blow his head off, I mean they do outnumber him millions to one dont they?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:19:41
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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The God-Emperor rises and unleashes a warp storm on an entire sector. Where are your Force Storms now?
An it doesn't matter how big a star destroyer is. Our lances and nova cannons can pound you long before you get in range. Better yet, once you close, we say "The Emperor Protects" and blow everything to hell by detonating our warp drives.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:22:08
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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DeathReaper wrote:Considering the Executor is 17km long, I would say it would be a good fight. Once you get the Eclipse-class Super Star Destroyer, and the Sovereign-class Super Star Destroyer involved in the discussion, then 40k does not stand a chance. In fact if you add in the emperor than nothing could stand in the way of them. How was the Eclipse was destroyed you ask? "It was destroyed when the Force storm Palpatine sent to destroy Luke Skywalker turned on Palaptine himself. The storm consumed Palpatine and eradicated the Eclipse." The emperor used the force to try and kill luke, and instead eradicated the Eclipse, which is bigger than a 40K Retribution Class Battleship. no reason he could not do the same to everything else.
good luck if they are pyschicly warded which the star wars ships are not. Plus Gellar shields protect against the warp. So two shields, Ceramite, and the fact that they also have weapons that sometimes accidentally pierce through planets....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:23:38
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Good point about the wards.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:25:53
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Tadashi wrote:The God-Emperor rises and unleashes a warp storm on an entire sector. Where are your Force Storms now?
Because that's what he's done to stop the Tyranids, right? And he did it to the Orks during the great Crusade and at Armageddon? Did I miss the memo where he's no longer a corpse incapable of interacting with things outside the Warp on any decent scale?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:27:30
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Dytalus wrote:Tadashi wrote:The God-Emperor rises and unleashes a warp storm on an entire sector. Where are your Force Storms now?
Because that's what he's done to stop the Tyranids, right? And he did it to the Orks during the great Crusade and at Armageddon? Did I miss the memo where he's no longer a corpse incapable of interacting with things outside the Warp on any decent scale?
IF they can include weapons that have already been destroyed, killed, and destroyed, this also includes the emperor palpatien who was killed. Then we can include the emperor, and you don't remember the fact that he destroyed an entire ship filled with daemons who were the most powerful in existance? Just with a wink? That is .99% of his power. He sent horus's body into oblivion. Nothing remains of him except his claw and well nothing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:29:44
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Dytalus wrote:Tadashi wrote:The God-Emperor rises and unleashes a warp storm on an entire sector. Where are your Force Storms now?
Because that's what he's done to stop the Tyranids, right? And he did it to the Orks during the great Crusade and at Armageddon? Did I miss the memo where he's no longer a corpse incapable of interacting with things outside the Warp on any decent scale?
If you want to include destroyed superweapons and dead villains, then we can involve the Emperor before He was interred in the Throne, and maybe after He returns.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:30:42
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ferocious Blood Claw
Kailua, HI
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Umm yeah if the emporor was almost killed while the deathstar was killed and so was those star thingies thanwouldnt the emporor be able to be regenerated if you guys get bring ships back to life? I mean really some of your arguments arent very good like using the fact that 40k only fights as good as they do on the table, i mean really.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:31:01
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Does anyone else picture the Great Game as a poker match?
So it doesnt matter if an super star destroyer is bigger. It fights at 100s of kms. Imperial fights at 10000s of kms. Those turbolaser have no targets, while the lances and nova cannons wreak shop on the Empire fleet.
Can anyone tell me the fighting strenght of the Empires Amry. I know stormtroopers are rare, but dont they have generic Imperial Infantry, im sure i read about them in some of the books.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:34:15
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ferocious Blood Claw
Kailua, HI
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Lol now im getting confused when people say "empires army" and such so it be much easier just to refer to 40k and sw. Just a suggestion for easier flow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:34:57
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Freaky Flayed One
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Tadashi wrote:Dytalus wrote:Tadashi wrote:The God-Emperor rises and unleashes a warp storm on an entire sector. Where are your Force Storms now?
Because that's what he's done to stop the Tyranids, right? And he did it to the Orks during the great Crusade and at Armageddon? Did I miss the memo where he's no longer a corpse incapable of interacting with things outside the Warp on any decent scale?
If you want to include destroyed superweapons and dead villains, then we can involve the Emperor before He was interred in the Throne, and maybe after He returns.
Okay, good point. I've only half read a lot of this and I thought we were still on the "current IoM versus Federation/Republic" discussion. That said, the difference is that weapons can be rebuilt. A dead man cannot be revived (easily, anyway. I'm not including any of the flimsy theories regarding his resurrection).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:36:01
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Sierk wrote:Umm yeah if the emporor was almost killed while the deathstar was killed and so was those star thingies thanwouldnt the emporor be able to be regenerated if you guys get bring ships back to life? I mean really some of your arguments arent very good like using the fact that 40k only fights as good as they do on the table, i mean really.
And they say we are ignoring them. We aren't We have considered it but they ignore our facts! ObliviousBlueCaboose Awesome name! wrote: Does anyone else picture the Great Game as a poker match? So it doesnt matter if an super star destroyer is bigger. It fights at 100s of kms. Imperial fights at 10000s of kms. Those turbolaser have no targets, while the lances and nova cannons wreak shop on the Empire fleet. Can anyone tell me the fighting strenght of the Empires Amry. I know stormtroopers are rare, but dont they have generic Imperial Infantry, im sure i read about them in some of the books.
The Empire army is comparable to 500 regiments. The Imperium's Forces if all pulled together.... Too high too count.... Lets also include Space marines, Adeptus Custodes, Grey Knights, Death Watch, every single titan legion, all come out of nowhere lightning fast and kick star wars and it's nerdy arse. This is the Ultimate Showdown. (couldn't resist!) Storm troopers in the imperium are rare. but veteran Guardsmen aren't. Storm Troopers in the Empire are alot but they aren't as well trained as the Imperium which is constantly at war. Lets not forget that the Imperium's tanks range from leman russes (Which are extremely common) to baneblades and shadow swords.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:36:56
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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They have shields, that is enough warp protection.
as kal says though lets get back to comparing troops and ships of the line.
The 40k ships can not match the Eclipse-class and the Sovereign-class ships of SW.
Here is an image showing how big the Sovereign-class is, remember the 40k Battleships are about 15km long, just smaller than the super star destroyer.
and the Eclipse-class
and finally the Imperium-Class Ultra Star Destroyer (Luckily this one was never actually produced).
The first two were built, and existed, they would give the 40k ships cause to worry if they were ever to meet.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:36:57
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Dytalus wrote:Tadashi wrote:Dytalus wrote:Tadashi wrote:The God-Emperor rises and unleashes a warp storm on an entire sector. Where are your Force Storms now?
Because that's what he's done to stop the Tyranids, right? And he did it to the Orks during the great Crusade and at Armageddon? Did I miss the memo where he's no longer a corpse incapable of interacting with things outside the Warp on any decent scale?
If you want to include destroyed superweapons and dead villains, then we can involve the Emperor before He was interred in the Throne, and maybe after He returns.
Okay, good point. I've only half read a lot of this and I thought we were still on the "current IoM versus Federation/Republic" discussion. That said, the difference is that weapons can be rebuilt. A dead man cannot be revived (easily, anyway. I'm not including any of the flimsy theories regarding his resurrection).
actually they can't as the places they were designed were also destroyed (Source wookiepedia) Automatically Appended Next Post: DeathReaper wrote:They have shields, that is enough warp protection.
as kal says though lets get back to comparing troops and ships of the line.
The 40k ships can not match the Eclipse-class and the Sovereign-class ships of SW.
Here is an image showing how big the Sovereign-class is, remember the 40k Battleships are about 15km long, just smaller than the super star destroyer.
and the Eclipse-class
and finally the Imperium-Class Ultra Star Destroyer (Luckily this one was never actually produced).
The first two were built, and existed, they would give the 40k ships cause to worry if they were ever to meet.
Eclipse meet world engine. World Engine Meet Eclipse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:40:57
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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The great game is a large wargame in Tzeentch's Garage.
Tzeentch is the oldest and has a good job so owns the house and the forge-world army.
Nurgle is the fat smelly neckbeard with the sloppily-painted / primered / grey army.
Khorne is that guy, always bringing the cheesiest list he can and sneak-cheats.
Slanesh is the hot chick that is dating either Tzeentch or Khorne and play either sisters or slaneshi deamons.
The Emprah is the over-excited space marine / IG player
Gork and Mork are the two guys playing orks yelling waaaggghh ever five damn minutes.
and the dragon of mars is the obligitory necron player.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:40:58
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Kailua, HI
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umm yeah and fi those did exist the way they would be created would also get wiped by the imperiums and they would be boarded by space marines or orks or whatever and used against sw.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:42:11
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Their shields are meant to withstand energy from the material universe. Not the immaterial energies generated from emotions,dreams, nightmares, souls that make up the warp. Eclipse-class, meet the Blackstone Fortress.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:43:31
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ninja'd Dang it! But look at it this way. The Imperium just sending boarding parties. Good luck trying to destroy a space hulk and when they go exploring.. Hundreds of genestealers appear on the eclipse making a new space hulk.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:44:13
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ferocious Blood Claw
Kailua, HI
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How do you know they protect against psykers? 40k ships are fdesigned against psykers while with wars the only thing they come close too compared to psykers are jedi or sith and they arent the most common and the star wars sheilds dont even protect against the force.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:44:14
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Manhunter
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DeathReaper wrote:They have shields, that is enough warp protection.
as kal says though lets get back to comparing troops and ships of the line.
The 40k ships can not match the Eclipse-class and the Sovereign-class ships of SW.
Here is an image showing how big the Sovereign-class is, remember the 40k Battleships are about 15km long, just smaller than the super star destroyer.
and the Eclipse-class
and finally the Imperium-Class Ultra Star Destroyer (Luckily this one was never actually produced).
The first two were built, and existed, they would give the 40k ships cause to worry if they were ever to meet.
If they ever get in range. Again SW fight at 100s of km. IoM fights at 10000s of km. It would be the Batyle of Agincourt all over... IN SPACE. The slower SW ships slowly advance to weapons range all the while getting pulverized by lances and nova cannons. Again size doesnt matter if you die before you can strike back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:47:56
Subject: Re:A matter of Sanity.
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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That's why range is so great in battle fleet Gothic is it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:48:16
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Sierk wrote:How do you know they protect against psykers?
Fluff states that pyskers have a hard time because of the gellar shields. IT does the same job in pyschic storms in the Great Ocean and in warp storms it protects the ship. Thus making it extremely difficult for the emperor to do jack squat against the entire imperial armada. You can use everything you got. WE get the entire imperium. Every chapter, Every space marine legion everything. You can use all of your toys, we can use all of ours. IF you allow that. IT would be a horrible idea. Automatically Appended Next Post: Andrew1975 wrote:That's why range is so great in battle fleet Gothic is it?
Ever read the Dark Hersey books or the Books about the imperial navy battles? It is over entire systems sometimes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:55:22
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ferocious Blood Claw
Kailua, HI
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Umm yeah im for the impirium and i dont really understand where your coming from asherian. Imperial armada, star wars right? If so how would the fluff say that star wars have defences in 40k. srry i just ddont understand yourt post. Your saying that gellar sheilds protect against psychic storsms and since psykers are 40k im assuming thats a 40k sheild still effectively saying that we have psyker defences and you dont.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/10 02:56:57
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:If they ever get in range. Again SW fight at 100s of km. IoM fights at 10000s of km.
Source?
If it is BFG then your ranges are off, see my earth to Battleship example.
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