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I don't think it was Wakanda, though it was mentioned. IIRC Wakanda is supposed to be Atlantis-isq, and that city did not look anything like that.

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They said Golum's mark was that of "Thief" in Wakanda, but he wasn't still in Wakanda and the scene wasn't in Wakanda, sadly.

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I'm not sure if this has been explained somewhere else but how come Stark still has all his suits and whatnot? Iron Man 3 seemed to depict him retiring and all that seems to have just been brushed under the rug.


You've seen Iron Man 3 right? Wouldn't you want to brush it under the rug?


Lol I don't think it matters if he blew them all up. Feels like he can have them made pretty damn quickly since he's got A LOT of automated fabricator kit in the Avengers tower.

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 angelofvengeance wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Commander Cain wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been explained somewhere else but how come Stark still has all his suits and whatnot? Iron Man 3 seemed to depict him retiring and all that seems to have just been brushed under the rug.


You've seen Iron Man 3 right? Wouldn't you want to brush it under the rug?


Lol I don't think it matters if he blew them all up. Feels like he can have them made pretty damn quickly since he's got A LOT of automated fabricator kit in the Avengers tower.


Even at the end of IM3 he took away his robot arm and it was pretty clear that he was going to keep on building stuff - as that's a big part of who he is.

If he had somehow built a fully functioning robot defence system - he would still be flying around in his suit for kicks and to build stuff in difficult areas and promos and the like - cos he can.

I would rather have seen another cameo from Pepper or indeed Jane than Coulson and co....... GP and RDJ are so great together in those roles.

I did enjoy the whole - "my girlfriends better than yours" talk between Thor and Tony............just another great bit of humour which the Marvel films are so great at.

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I enjoyed the movie, but not as much as Avengers 1 or Guardians of the Green Chick's Nice Ass.

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I enjoyed the movie, but not as much as Avengers 1 or Guardians of the Green Chick's Nice Ass.


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They said Golum's mark was that of "Thief" in Wakanda, but he wasn't still in Wakanda and the scene wasn't in Wakanda, sadly.


Exactly, the whole fight happened in 'Africa" which as we all know is just one small country with a few huts, some elephants and lions and such.

Which reminds me, they said it means theif in AN AFRICAN DIALECT.




African is not a language.

Amharic is a language (and a really cool one too).

Zulu is a language.

French is a language.

They have dialects.

"African" does not.

"African dialect" is one of those phrases that drips of colonialism. It's bascially a message that these African folks, they don't speak proper language, not like us, they speak dialects, just some sort of ugga-bugga stuff that's good for saying 'a lion is eating my foot' but not a language per se.

Now maybe the phrase was picked on purpose to show Banner's contempt for Africa, but I don't get that feeling. No it just felt like lazy writers who can't even be arsed to think of a country in Africa to set their movie in.

 
   
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Release your anger, KK!

I think it was crappier that Ultron's "Lips" moved. I kept cracking up when he talked!

He should have been like C-3PO or Bender with his mouth grill lighting up to show he was talking.

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Which reminds me, they said it means theif in AN AFRICAN DIALECT.




African is not a language.

Amharic is a language (and a really cool one too).

Zulu is a language.

French is a language.

They have dialects.

"African" does not.

"African dialect" is one of those phrases that drips of colonialism. It's bascially a message that these African folks, they don't speak proper language, not like us, they speak dialects, just some sort of ugga-bugga stuff that's good for saying 'a lion is eating my foot' but not a language per se.

Ah, I remember Red Scorpion. You would have loved their take on “African culture” .

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Y'know the cyber lips didn't bug me, I think one of the many sub plots that wasn't really fleshed out is that Ultron really, really wanted to be a real boy.

So naturally his mecha bodies had lips.

Looking closely he even had little metal sliding bits for them.


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Ah, I remember Red Scorpion. You would have loved their take on “African culture” .


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From now on when someone writes "Africa" I'll just assume they mean downtown Cairo.

And one day I will write a story where someone goes to 'Europe' a small country where the Eiffel Tower, Kremlin and Big Ben are all on the same street.

And it will still be more accurate than most stories set in 'Africa".

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To be fair, for most people the distinction between dialect and language is pretty meaningless. It's far less egregious than the technobabble nonsense in the films. If engineers and physicists can turn off their brains enough to not care where the sudden increase in physical mass come from when the hulk transforms, or how Iron Man's metal suit can punch through metal far heavier-duty than what little armor the suit would realistically be able to contain, then we can ignore them using the wrong linguistic phrase.

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No, no I can't.

Cause I don't know how gamma-infused muscle mass might work, but sure as @#$% know that 'Africa' is neither a country nor a language!

And like I said, pet peeve cause it's a bit of sloppy writing I see way, way too often.

 
   
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I don't think "African dialect" is such a stretch. There are many dialects in Africa.

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Man, with the romance between these two going on, I had the (NSFW) GIF from Avengers 1 in my head the whole time^^
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Ah, I remember Red Scorpion. You would have loved their take on “African culture” .


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098180/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl

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Yeah, it is one of those movies that are so bad they are fun to watch ^^. Their geopolitics are top notch, as you can imagine .

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Man, with the romance between these two going on, I had the (NSFW) GIF from Avengers 1 in my head the whole time^^

I stumbled across that last night.................................................

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Man, with the romance between these two going on, I had the (NSFW) GIF from Avengers 1 in my head the whole time^^


With that in mind, my GF found the "hiding the zucchini" joke to be the highlight of the entire film.

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Man, with the romance between these two going on, I had the (NSFW) GIF from Avengers 1 in my head the whole time^^

I stumbled across that last night.................................................


I have no idea what you two are talking about...

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Nvm.

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Well, you're not exactly the first person to notice that Marvel films are exceptionally formulaic.


Or that many big budget films follow a similar formula.


But that ignores that execution of the formula matters, and makes a tremendous difference in quality. Compare either Avengers film to a typical Michael Bay movie, and the difference will probably be obvious, though the elements are basically the same.

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 Squidmanlolz wrote:
Age of Ultron was good, very good. IMO, it suffered from two main problems.
First off, it was crowded. There was a menagerie of main characters and it just felt over-crowded, though this offered some cool, comic-book shots.
Second, Ultron was too human. Ultron's lips and face emoted far too much for what is supposed to be a machine. This killed any intimidation Ultron was supposed to present, which left him relying on his imposing stature alone.

From what I gather, Spader would have refused to play Ultron if he weren't allowed to do any facial, tonal, or gestural acting.

I don't think Tom Kane's Ultron (from Avengers: EMH) would have been able to carry a movie quite as well.


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Also I think people who dismiss the movie for being too funny/not gritty/not DEEP enough are snobs whose opinions should never be consulted for anything. Boring Oscar bait movies where everybody has a stick up their ass and directors trying too hard to be artsy bore the gak out of me.

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It's probably something lost to cutting, but I didn't really feel clear on what Ultron's plan actually was. First he wants to save humanity, then he wants to transform humanity (I think?), then he decides to just kill everyone and start over. Maybe that was intentional, given how twitchy and unstable he seemed, like extravagantly rewarding soon-to-be-Klaw, and then ripping his arm off in a fit of pique.


Ultron's plan is, was, and always will be to save humanity by turning them into robotic minions.


But at the end, he seems to have given up on that part of the plan, skipping straight to "rocks fall, everyone dies". Though it is quite fun to imagine him looking over the wreckage of Earth after succeeding and then going "Aw, damn it, I knew there was something I meant to do first!"


Ultron is basically a petulant child with untold power at his fingertips.


Also, to those complaining about there being too many characters. Remember the time when Vision, Scarlet Witch, Ant Man, Hawkeye, She Hulk, Wolverine, and Spidey were all New Avengers? Alongside the Avengers? And the Secret Avengers? At the same time!

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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
No, no I can't.

Cause I don't know how gamma-infused muscle mass might work, but sure as @#$% know that 'Africa' is neither a country nor a language!

And like I said, pet peeve cause it's a bit of sloppy writing I see way, way too often.



I don't really think that by saying it's an "African dialect" is implying that African is a language. I took it to mean that it's a dialect of an African language, of which there are obviously many. Just as if someone said something was a European dialect I would take that to mean a dialect of a European language - not that "European" is a language. But I speak a language that includes several different dialects so maybe I'm just desensitized to the term. I also really like dialects so to me the word dialect already has a positive connotation, not a negative colonial one, but I could see why you might feel different about that.

And don't get me wrong, it annoys me off to when I hear someone talk as if Africa is a country or African is a language - I just don't get the "African is a language" implication from someone referring to an "African dialect." To me, African dialect implies that they know that African isn't a language.

I agree with you though that they should have just picked a country though. I was trying to think of what flags the police officers had on their uniforms in those scenes, but I can't remember.

   
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Being a DC fan, I sat through the entire movie wishing that it was about the Justice League combating Brother Eye and the OMAC project... but that's just me. I even came up with ways to include T.O. Morrow into the plot, replacing the Vision with Red Tornado, etc, etc...

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Being a DC fan, I sat through the entire movie wishing that it was about the Justice League combating Brother Eye and the OMAC project... but that's just me. I even came up with ways to include T.O. Morrow into the plot, replacing the Vision with Red Tornado, etc, etc...


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Also, to those complaining about there being too many characters. Remember the time when Vision, Scarlet Witch, Ant Man, Hawkeye, She Hulk, Wolverine, and Spidey were all New Avengers? Alongside the Avengers? And the Secret Avengers? At the same time!


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