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So it's indeed Space Rats.

Kroothawk wrote:So it's indeed Space Werewolves.

Fixed that for you.

Probably are space rats, but the picture looks more like a wolf head than rat head. Or the faction could be Animal Farm in space.

That's a pretty nice bit of art actually, I love the energy in it.

I think the 'rats' thing has been pretty much confirmed for a couple of days now - 'Vermeen' being an obvious play on words of 'vermin'.

Pacific wrote:

As far as I'm concerned I'm frankly stunned by how good these look. I would say they are pretty much comparable to the FW Elysians in terms of sculpt detail, and although some might consider it almost sacrilegious to say, they dump on the now rather aged looking Cadian sculpts by a country mile. And that's regardless of the price discrepancies when compared to the above.

Same here - these figs are awesome!

I do NOT want to start a Guard army, so I am hoping that the 'cultist' option in the upcoming Chaos Marines/Legions will let me proxy these guys in!

Hey, thats a pretty nice piece of artwork, hopefully the final miniatures will look close to that. If they do I'll buy project pandora and may even start a space rat army (or vermeen I should say).

I want space werewolfs next.

Kanluwen wrote:The legs look a bit silly because they've rolled the pant leg up and bloused it over their boots.

Im going to make a bet

It only look silly to you because you think you are seeing rolled up pant leg up over the boots.

While what Im seeing is the boot itself, which is just similar color to the pants.

scarletsquig wrote:

Out of all the limitless alien creatures out there, they cant pick something thats not related to earth mythos to fight against in space?

A space Rat?

Homenutt wrote:A space Rat?

What else would you expect to find on a derelict vessel? It's either that or cockroaches and GW already has that covered.

Those are not space rats, those are space antropomorphic rat/wolf hybrids... And man, i hope they look so great in their minis...

All along I was wishing they wouldn't just take a fantasy race and send it to space.
I guess that was asking too much.

I shall deffo get a copy of Pandora - looking v good so far

The art is good. We'll see about the models. I could use some armoured Space Rats. Or werewolves, whatever.

poipo32 wrote:All along I was wishing they wouldn't just take a fantasy race and send it to space.
I guess that was asking too much.

Even among fantasy races, they didn't have to pick an [animal]man race that's already supported by GW, complete with machine guns and flamethrowers.

You know what fantasy race I would have used? Elementals. Silicon-based life is a staple of science fiction, so a technologically-minded race of earth elementals or earth-fire paraelementals would fit right in.

Pfft! Rats indeed, I know a vole when I see one!

Or maybe its a mole?......or a badger with a hat on?

Space pest control... or "when everyday goes sci-fi"

Theres some up close images of painted corp special weapons

"The alternative miniatures company"? Not something I would want to put on the front of a kit, maybe that is just me!?

Hmm, Mantic may steal all my remaining Christmas money after all. I am sure I can find a use for human troopers and rats in spaace!

Commander Cain wrote:"The alternative miniatures company"? Not something I would want to put on the front of a kit, maybe that is just me!?
!

It's like "Hey, I'm not the best, but I'm cheaper!"

They should fire their "alternative" marketing expert...

^ Where did I say the image was on the front of a kit?

It was on a flyer given away for free (along with a sprue of mantic minis) to anyone who attended the Newark show last weekend.

I didn't go, but naturally.. if you give it out to the public, it will end up on the internet.

scarletsquig wrote:^ Where did I say the image was on the front of a kit?

It was on a flyer given away for free (along with a sprue of mantic minis) to anyone who attended the Newark show last weekend.

I didn't go, but naturally.. if you give it out to the public, it will end up on the internet.

Even so... Seems to be an odd way to market your merchandise.

On the subject of the special weapons, I like the middle one but the other two are a bit square for me, they go along the same lines as the regular trooper lasguns which I also do not like very much. They look good in the artwork I just think they didn't come out the way they were intended. Of course, a simple weapon swap and they are perfect!

Commander Cain wrote:

Even so... Seems to be an odd way to market your merchandise.

Why? Mantic aren't stupid - they know full well that a certain proportion of their sales are going to be people looking for cheaper alternatives to GW models. There is nothing wrong with them putting the company forward as a GW alternative - it's their raison d'être. Nowhere does it say that alternative equals 'cheaper' or 'worse' (even though both might be true depending on your point of view).

And "That Other Miniatures Company" doesn't sound as good

I like the new painted stuff. Space Rats are just meh for me though, might be cool but not what I'm after. I guess I just want some alternative guardsmen. I'll be grabbing some corps guys and also some Defiance figs too but I'm prolly gonna wait for their german figs.

But with all of mantic's stuff.. why do they all come with the mini round base under the feets? Wouldn't it be easier to make em without? You still need to add them to another bigger base too right?

It isn't Mantic's main tagline. 'Building Big Armies' is their mainstay.

But that slogan makes very little sense attached to a skirmish game like Pandora.

Necros wrote:But with all of mantic's stuff.. why do they all come with the mini round base under the feets? Wouldn't it be easier to make em without? You still need to add them to another bigger base too right?

For the same reasons that slottabases exist - ease of assembly for models with a small attachment point to the base (like the elves and undead), or for metal models/ restic models that don't stick as easily.

Mantic design is actually better than slottabases for square-based models since it allows you to rotate the model on it's base, whereas with slottabases you can't.

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Okay, space skaven it is.

Guess it's the muzzle, but the one on the left looks more like a piggy

They look, oh, well... amazing...

Serious, those guys are amazing, i loved those concepts, im so happy i never started orkz... Rats as scavenger? Make a lot more sense!!!

And look at those guns!!! The feel like old school...

Im sold, surely i need to see sprues and such... but if they come this way in the end, if the entire range looks like that, for the "regular mantic price", i can see myself happy with a ton of them... Im sold

Space critters aren't doing it for me I'm afraid.

Will this line be where Mantic find want the internetz say they want, may not be what they actually want?

notprop wrote:Space critters aren't doing it for me I'm afraid.

Will this line be where Mantic find want the internetz say they want, may not be what they actually want?

I've never seen the internet wanting space skaven until the rumours started flying about this, at which point several people stated that they have been wanting space skaven for a long time.

No, I don't get it either. I'm just as disinterested in these as I am in the Marauders.

I like the Forgefathers because the sculpting style really breaks away from the goofy dwarfs in space look that the old GW squats had (once you throw all of the plastic fantasy heads and the goggles they come with in the trash), and looks downright brilliant, with the "techy" element brought to the front and mixed with Norse myth. Those Veer-Myn, you could add straight to a fantasy Clan Skyre army.

Whereas Marauders and Veer-Myn are much more of a direct parallel to some of the more goofy-looking GW fantasy sculpts. I think making too much of an effort to please the "heroic scale and goofy" crowd that makes up the majority of GW fans is the source of a lot of Mantic's problems.

Then you haven't been looking very hard. For years people have clamored for Hrud. Every time a new edition comes up, people start talking about "how cool" a Hrud army would be.