GW Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours

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**Overread**

Ouch that is going to stifle its initial pick up considerably, though hopefully they can give it some big support around Xmas. The price tag is steep, but then again there is a lot in the box so its more like a one-time big purchase.

I wonder if GW has their factory running at full power yet? I know earlier in the year it was a big issue for production.

**Thargrim**

If it does sell out in a day I take that as a good indicator of its popularity. But the question is how quickly will GW be able to pump out more. The rules box and titans won't be limited, and it might be a cheaper buy in to get those separately with ebay discounts or something. Hopefully not everything is GW webstore exclusive.

I feel like it might be a struggle to find people locally to play this game.

**Overread**

Then again the boxed set has enough titans to play two player. Heck the way it works I suspect even two titans and a few knights per side will be a fun match

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Yodhrin wrote:
I really, really dislike these "limited time only! buy buy buy!" affairs. I want to give you money GW, I have it right here put aside for this, but now you demand that in order to be permitted to give it to you I have to fething camp out your website at 10am on a Saturday morning and hope I can get my transaction through before all the other folk doing the same thing, many of whom will doubtless be scalper-scum who'll turn around and stick them on ebay.

If the big "deal" box is limited to 20K global and webstore exclusive(which is will be, surely? They won't be willing to allocate any to online retailers if there's that few available), will it even be a deal any more compared to just buying all the parts on their own with 20-25% off?

Unless the production thing means stock of the whole launch range is going to be pretty scarce(hence why so little of it is getting put in the big showy discount box), which is a great way to ensure the game is stillborn.

if you read a bit further in the sentence you get to 'with no more available until Xmas '

sound like they either do the planned launch with limited stock or delay the whole thing, limited production capacity is clearly a thing they're struggling with given how many releases have stuff going OOS on the first day of the pre-order period remaining tricky to get hold of for months afterwards

better to do a release with a significant chunk of stock (20K isn't small) and then build up enough for a refresh at Christmas than the same release then maybe a box or 2 for some stores the week after, and some different stores the week after that

**Azreal13**

Yeah, 20k is, taken at face value, a lot of product.

To put it on context, they could (I know the rumour says they're not, but they could) send each store on the planet 5 copies and still have 90% of it left.

**Yodhrin**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
I really, really dislike these "limited time only! buy buy buy!" affairs. I want to give you money GW, I have it right here put aside for this, but now you demand that in order to be permitted to give it to you I have to fething camp out your website at 10am on a Saturday morning and hope I can get my transaction through before all the other folk doing the same thing, many of whom will doubtless be scalper-scum who'll turn around and stick them on ebay.

If the big "deal" box is limited to 20K global and webstore exclusive(which is will be, surely? They won't be willing to allocate any to online retailers if there's that few available), will it even be a deal any more compared to just buying all the parts on their own with 20-25% off?

Unless the production thing means stock of the whole launch range is going to be pretty scarce(hence why so little of it is getting put in the big showy discount box), which is a great way to ensure the game is stillborn.

if you read a bit further in the sentence you get to 'with no more available until Xmas '

sound like they either do the planned launch with limited stock or delay the whole thing, limited production capacity is clearly a thing they're struggling with given how many releases have stuff going OOS on the first day of the pre-order period remaining tricky to get hold of for months afterwards

better to do a release with a significant chunk of stock (20K isn't small) and then build up enough for a refresh at Christmas than the same release then maybe a box or 2 for some stores the week after, and some different stores the week after that

And if you'd read the whole post, you'll note that comment was regarding a hypothetical about regular stock, not the bigbox. If only the bigbox is limited availability until Christmas then fine, you lose one or two people but it's not fatal, but if the reason the bigbox will be scarce is that stock generally will be scarce that's going to put a dent in the game's potential.

Maybe I'm not getting enough of a handle on 20K units, but it doesn't sound like a whole lot globally.

**Souleater**

Twenty thousand seems like a fair initial run to me.

I know within our GW focused bubble there is a fair bit of excitement about this, but we aren't a terribly huge slice of the population.

The price point will also reduce the interest in the 'GM box.

That said, I will definitely be picking up a copy.

**Nostromodamus**

Was gonna save some money for this, but not at that price. Looks like my historicals collection will be getting some love.

**Malika2**

Nostromodamus wrote:
Was gonna save some money for this, but not at that price. Looks like my historicals collection will be getting some love.

Just go for 3mm!

**crnaguja**

180 for starter set?

Nope. And I really hoped to play the game

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

It’s not the started set though. It’s just the one with the models.

If one just wants the rules (perhaps because you’ve already got Titan models, or equivalent) then the ‘rules only’ box is gonna be cheaper.

**Hulksmash**

Yeah, I feel like for the models, terrain, and rules it's around where I expected. Though I was hopingg itd be sub $200

**crnaguja**

It is a starter set. I can't play the game with rules only. I need models

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Not the only route though is what I’m trying to say.

**Chikout**

20,000 is a lot of copies. If GW manages to sell all of those at £180 each by the end of the year, Adeptus Titanicus will be a massive success, especially as many people will probably buy the rules only box instead. My instinct is that people will balk at such a high buy in price and you won't have any trouble getting hold of the big box if you want it.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Guess it’ll depend on its value compared to the price.

GW’s boxed games typically offer better value than buying the components separately.

And don’t forget, this is a Heresy Product. I suspect very few Heresy players will blink at £180, simply because they can spend that on a single Super Heavy, or even just a couple of squads.

If I’m getting say, £300 worth of gubbins in the box, I’ll be ok with £180.

**Thargrim**

Well the rumor was the box set gave enough of a discount so it's like one warlord titan is free. But also remember the box comes with many terrain sprues and lots of other stuff to bulk up the price. Depending on how much a warlord titan is going to sell for....it might end up being a solid deal considering it is almost knight sized.

It's also a smart buy if you want enough stuff for two people to play out of the box. If you go the route of getting the rules box and a warlord and knight pack, etc then i'm not really sure how much money you will be saving in the long run and you will only really have enough to play an opponent who has his/her own force.

Hopefully when they unveil the full box contents altogether in a picture people go wow, thats a lot of stuff.

**NoggintheNog**

look at the price of current knight kits.

Warlords are going to be £85 + kits on their own, and you get two in the box, plus 6 other models and scenery as well as the rules, which would be £50 on their own I suspect.

£180 isn't as much as I was expecting given the contents

**H.B.M.C.**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And don’t forget, this is a Heresy Product. I suspect very few Heresy players will blink at £180, simply because they can spend that on a single Super Heavy, or even just a couple of squads.

And it's 100% incompatible with all the Heresy stuff they already own, so I doubt that cost will be the only roadblock to success.

I think the game looks fantastic, but I can use 100% of its products in 0% of my other games. That's enough reason for me not to be interested in it. My Necromunda stuff can be used in all sorts of places, so I don't mind investing tons in that. 10mm Knights and Warlords? No thanks.

Being a "Heresy" product won't be enough for many.

**smurfORnot**

With this prices, recaster ones are gonna sell like hot cakes,lol...

I too was interested in this one, but for the price of something like 2x renegade boxes, which gives you 4 FULL SIZE imperial knights whice are basically complete 40k army...yea, this will be a pass. Especially because at this price, almost no one in my are will even start to think about investing into it.

**Warhams-77**

This rumor is nonsense. Not selling the boxed game in stores? Sure...

**Thargrim**

isn't 180 euros something like 210-220 us dollars? And in british pounds it might be 240 bucks tops. The renegade box is 165 or whatever on miniaturemarket and that only contains 2 knights. The titanicus boxed set comes with everything in that image of the rules box which looks like a lot of content, including the likely hardback rulebook. 6 knights, well over 3 sprues of terrain etc. Not to mention the 2 knight sized warlords, which are kind of cooler than a knight to begin with. This is sounding like the biggest boxed set they've ever done. I don't think this is as severe of a price for what it is as some people are making it out to be.

**insaniak**

It's a reasonable price given the contents, but I can't help thinking that sticking with the original scale so the box could be cheaper might have been a better option. It's certainly priced too high for me.

I'm much less price elastic than the average GW customer these days, though, so I'll be interested to see how it actually sells.

**Breotan**

I'm not really sure if this will be a huge hit or not, if they're not being sold in stores. It's stores that normally support a game.

**Overread**

Then again if its only the boxed set that isn't in stores but the regular models are then it might just be that the boxed set is the high price "all in one two player" whilst the regular is singleplayer and appears in stores.

**Warhams-77**

GW can currently only produce so much copies of it. They have reported production problems. To me 20k via online only seemed way too much. Considering it further though, Blood Bowl was struggling with a similiar number of copies, initially selling out very fast - it was offered regularly via FLGs etc. Clarification by Damion

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323997-adeptus-titanicus/page-55

Makes more sense than I thought initially. 180 GBP should be something like 250 EUR in their price bands. I like the products shown so far a lot though and this is still on my purchase list.

**Iron_Captain**

If they are going to sell it for that price, it will be a great deal, but still really expensive. I don't know if I have that kind of money to be honest. Maybe I will have to wait until they start selling kits separately and build up a force unit by unit.

**Sinful Hero**

Isn’t this only a rumor? GW/FW hasn’t mentioned a final price yet have they? Either way I imagined it was going to be steep, but I’d have to double-check the contents again before paying over $200.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

It is indeed.

Sceptical as I usually am of such things, it’s still the only info we’ve got so far.

**smurfORnot**

180 is a lot for 6 primaris size knights + 2 warlords. And I kinda don't see it being very appealing just to play as core box with 1 warlord + 3knights vs 1 warlord + 3knights. This would get old very fast, whoever has a bit more luck with dices wins. So you wanna invest in few more blisters, and suddenly you are already at 300pounds mark and have like 6 models per side,lol, of which 50% are primaris size...