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Oh, don't give up on the old girl, she still has some life in her

We're just waiting for some more news before we give her a good shock with the paddles

IB4L?

No lock, this tread must be allowed a natural death...

So Has anyone tried out the deathstrike yet?

yeah, IB4L. Stupid hero-hammer codex, I want my drop troops back.

I used it once (as a proxy)! In game 1 it killed a hammerhead, 3 battlesuits, and 1 FW (6-inch blast radius ftw!) . Game 2 it was blown up first turn . It's a very hit-or-miss vehicle!

augfubuoy wrote:. It's a very hit-or-miss vehicle!

With only one shot, I think that's a given...


That's so bad it doesn't qualify as a pun.



Continuing to harp on a seemingly minor point:

Sgts/Officers don't get lasguns. Thus they can never benefit from FRFSRF(Supposing that it doesn't effect laspistols. Which I assume it doesn't). We're actually losing a fair amount of shots per game, overall, figuring an average of 2-3 FRFSRF orders per turn.

Possible upshot, however, is the fact that we can take a Plasma Pistol in line squads. This is BEYOND stupid, fluffwise, if you ask me, and I've even had a hard time justifying the Sgt in my Vet squads having Plasma pistols, but! It does give us the ability to squeeze another plasma shot into a regular squad. Even trade off, or stupidly, prohibitively expensive (with a plas pistol/gun squad being 75 pts without a HW)? And with a commissar that's 3-4 Plasma shots a squad! ... meh.


Also: With Bodyguards adding an extra 2 attacks each, the option to take heavy flamers, and attached Commissar Lords, is the Assault Command Squad a viable option finally? A counter-charge unit? A waste of a commander who should be commanding?


And if that wasn't enough, I shall give you yet another topic: Heavy Flamer at 20 points. 15 points extra for +1str, -AP. Worth it? Talk amongst yourselves.

I'm using my so-called sergeants as ablative wounds. Only one will not be immediately assigned a wound, in my 30-man blob-squad.

Well, at least I wont have to worry about chopping off the Plasma pistol from my Tallarn Sgts now will I? Just have to figure out what to do with the ones wielding the auto pistol.........Oh yeah I will just leave them be. With over 100 Tallarn infantry to finsih painting I dont have time to worry about the little things, though I do wish they made a fig with a flamer. Tallarn prefer Plasma but they have to have a few guys toting around a zippo right? Has any one seen any Tallarn info in the codex besides the IC for them?

augfubuoy wrote:And so the IG Codex Thread quietly dies...

"Don't let it end this way, Captian."

I'm fighting for her. I won't let the haven of Guard Bitching, warranted or unwarranted, go gently into that dark night.

You know what sucks?! THE MANTICORE!

... Ok actually I really like the Manticore. And the Medusa. And the Griffon.

God it's like an Artilleryman's wet dream.

On that note, is there really a downside to the Griffon? Or the colossus for that matter? I almost can't see not bringing both of these (probably in a mixed battery for extra accuracy goodness) in every game.

It makes me feel bad for the poor bassie. I see them getting neglected now.

On the subject of the Griffon, has anyone seen the English Codex and confirmed whether it can fire directly or not? I have seen the Spanish one and it looks like it can not fire directly but I'd like to see the English one to be sure.

tomguycot wrote:On the subject of the Griffon, has anyone seen the English Codex and confirmed whether it can fire directly or not? I have seen the Spanish one and it looks like it can not fire directly but I'd like to see the English one to be sure.

It cannot.

I really wish we had more bolter / bolt pistol options. I know IG isn't marines, but we seem to have more access to plasma, which is fluff-wise a more complicated, volatile, high-maintanence weapon than a bolter. Bolter vets, sws, or command squads would be a nice fluffy addition to the list ino.

Scottywan82 wrote:We're all waiting on the pdf to be loaded up to 4chan.

If you speak Spanish, the internet has what you want.

If I spoke Spanish... I don't have a witty comeback, so I will say Your Mom speaks Spanish! And then demand an English pdf.

ph34r wrote:

Scottywan82 wrote:We're all waiting on the pdf to be loaded up to 4chan.

If you speak Spanish, the internet has what you want.

What's up with the Spanish anyways? First to 'leak' solid codex info, first to leak the actual codex. Methinks GamesWorkshop has a hole in their otherwise tight ship in the form of a spaniard!!


... Oooor the Spaniards are the only ones not too lazy to bother posting info/images of the Codex.
BASTARDS.

There was some chappy on 4chan yesterday that snapped some pics of the English one and then blotted out the words. He was having it out with somebody else on there. Kinda funny, mostly infuriating.

No can findo el spanisho codexo.

No es bueno. :(

PMo meo youro emailo amigo.

the big problem is the commands-if I am reading it correctly-if you dont get an order you dont do anything.
as for sending orders through vox's-its not stated.
I know there is "implied" and "law", and I am sure there will be rules lawyers around that will argue the point of orders.
I myself would like to see that units can still shoot-that orders are a 'bonus'.

On that note, is there really a downside to the Griffon? Or the colossus for that matter? I almost can't see not bringing both of these (probably in a mixed battery for extra accuracy goodness) in every game.


The downside is reduced possible casualties. Lets say you have a Griffon and a colossus shooting at a 6 man squad of marines in 4+ cover. You shoot the Griffon first as a ranging shot. Blamo, 5 wounds. You fire off the Colossus and then blamo 4 more wounds. Now you are thinking cool, just wiped out that squad! Not so fast. That squad as a sgt, a plasma gunner, and a heavy bolter guy, pus three grunts. The canny Space marine player places all 4 colosuss wounds on the three grunts, plus two of the griffon wounds. He then just has to make 1 3+ save on each of his remaining three marines.

I'm pretty sure you need all ten guys to have a PG AND an HB. Just FYI.

And what is this bullshittery about no orders means you do nothing? If that's true I am am actually fuckign keeping my old codex, and feth GW.

We can talk about Robin's Cruddace's comments in the May White Dwarf or the announced price increases effective June 1st for some metal, plastic, and hobby product items.

Edit: The Valkyrie special rule Grav Chute Insertion is clearly spelled out and confirms earlier rumors by middle and on Warseer. It's true that if the Valk moves flat out and the transported unit deploys but has a model that cannot be deployed as per Deep Strike mishaps (p.95, BRB) then the deploying unit is destroyed.

What's disappointing is that Robin does not discuss any of the IG rules that he cut out, like Leadership.

What's stupefying is that he describes FRFSRF using an example of a squad with 10 lasguns since it appears per the Spanish version that sergeants must take a laspistol and CCW or some other upgrade. In no case are they allowed lasguns. Perhaps he's thinking of a conscript squad but they don't come in 10 man units.

He spends some time describing the 'amoeba'. He says that you decide whether or not to do it when its time to deploy (after you roll for mission). That's useful.

What comments? Price Increase = nerd rage, okay moving on.

Scottywan82 wrote:I'm pretty sure you need all ten guys to have a PG AND an HB. Just FYI.

Well the first few guys could have already been killed...

And what is this bullshittery about no orders means you do nothing? If that's true I am am actually fuckign keeping my old codex, and feth GW.

Uh oh, here it comes again...

No lie here it comes, seriously? If the squad doesn't pass a Ld test every turn it does nothing? Does that make any fething sense? Really, does it?

For feth's sake, Grots are more military than IG if that's true.

Scottywan82 wrote:No lie here it comes, seriously? If the squad doesn't pass a Ld test every turn it does nothing? Does that make any fething sense? Really, does it?

For feth's sake, Grots are more military than IG if that's true.

You have to fail on boxcars to go 'stupid'

A regular fail just means the order didn't go off.

Shep wrote:

Scottywan82 wrote:No lie here it comes, seriously? If the squad doesn't pass a Ld test every turn it does nothing? Does that make any fething sense? Really, does it?

For feth's sake, Grots are more military than IG if that's true.

You have to fail on boxcars to go 'stupid'

A regular fail just means the order didn't go off.

That's not what the poster said. I'm only commenting on the post.

lord senobio wrote:the big problem is the commands-if I am reading it correctly-if you dont get an order you dont do anything.
as for sending orders through vox's-its not stated.
I know there is "implied" and "law", and I am sure there will be rules lawyers around that will argue the point of orders.
I myself would like to see that units can still shoot-that orders are a 'bonus'.

That says no order no nothing.

This is why you shouldn't get your panties all in a bunch. You got the rule wrong but you still jumped to "OMG I'm not buying this codex, Feth GW!!"

So 1 in 36 times that you actually give a unit an order they won't be able to do anything.

Ozymandias wrote:This is why you shouldn't get your panties all in a bunch. You got the rule wrong but you still jumped to "OMG I'm not buying this codex, Feth GW!!"

So 1 in 36 times that you actually give a unit an order they won't be able to do anything.

Thanks for playing, jack-hole. As I stated already I am commenting on a post. I didn't "get the rule wrong, because I didn't state the rule. Maybe lord senobio got it wrong, but my comment was on his reading of the rule. So go someplace else if you don't like the thread.