The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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**MrDwhitey**

Yeeeeah... but druids suck, y'know?

Needs more Pyromancy, all I'm saying.

**halonachos**

They should have a move where you need some sort of alcohol and a torch, have a nice animation of your character taking a swig from the bottle and spewing it through the flames of the torch like a flamethrower.

**LordofHats**

No, the Bard College should have been all about singing and dancing. Dance Dance Skyrim Revolution!

**Soladrin**

It's not about raiding all the other bard's room for cash?

**Cheesecat**

LordofHats wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
LordofHats wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:Disappointed that Unarmed doesn't have it's own skill tree in Skyrim.

I did appreciate that there was a skill for it in the Heavy tree, but in all honest that skill should have gone as a off shoot of the single handed dual wield tree so that it could work with both light and heavy armor.

Also I think a type of magic where you could transform into wild animals would have been cool, basically druids.

That would be pretty sweet to. I love Elder Scrolls, but I dare saw Bethesda isn't as adventurous as they used to be. There's a lot of amazingly awesome stuff they could do in Skyrim, but they'll never be able to do everything they could do.

Maybe someone will make a mod.

I wouldn't call adding common fantasy archetypes that adventurous (monk and druids) this is the kind of thing you would expect in a company that likes reward the player with loads of options.

**LordofHats**

I think it's adventerous in that its something new for the series. Really, the Elder Scrolls games since Morrowind have really just been the same features transported into a new setting and streamlined to get them to work better.

I love it, but they could add more new toys. Dual Weilding was the only really big addition made to Skyrim in this respect.

**Grey Templar**

You can be a Werewolf. Thats plenty of beast transformation for me.

And lets face it, who could proudly say they beat the game using their army of Skeever and Mudcrab minions to take over Skyrim?

**Cheesecat**

LordofHats wrote:I think it's adventerous in that its something new for the series. Really, the Elder Scrolls games since Morrowind have really just been the same features transported into a new setting and streamlined to get them to work better.

I love it, but they could add more new toys. Dual Weilding was the only really big addition made to Skyrim in this respect.

I couldn't agree with you more, but unarmed was in there previous games why get rid of it in Skyrim? Also you can sort of create Bards in Skyrim just specialize in a lot of speech skills and be a jack of all trades,

although I don't think you can use instruments. Mind you I've only borrowed it from my friend for a few days and will have to wait till Christmas to play it again (got it for my brother).

**Avatar 720**

Using instruments could be cool.

"Hey, did you hear that the Dragonborn won?"
"Yeah, what's he up to now?"
"He's busking on the streets of Whiterun after his/her husband/wife kicked them out and set up their own shop inside."

**Grey Templar**

I find it funny that what ever your last major quest line was determines peoples reaction.

After an Assassination, People act nervous. Sometimes a guard comes up and says "Hail Sithis" like he's a follower of him too.

After you join the companions people start acting like that.

They just completely forget what you did previously.

**Battle Brother Lucifer**

Anvildude wrote:Did anyone else notice that Keening is apparently popped into the game, either through the one mod or in Vanilla?

I mean, Keening!

Think it still kills you if you don't have the right gauntlets?

It SUCKS

It cant be upgraded via grindstone, and does steel sword levels of damage
Its enchantment is ok (15pt absorb health, mana, stamina) but its still not worth it

**Avatar 720**

Grey Templar wrote:I find it funny that what ever your last major quest line was determines peoples reaction.

After an Assassination, People act nervous. Sometimes a guard comes up and says "Hail Sithis" like he's a follower of him too.

After you join the companions people start acting like that.

They just completely forget what you did previously.

Imperial questline:

Spoiler:

**LordofHats**

Avatar 720 wrote:Imperial questline:

Spoiler:

I hate that I rose through the ranks to Legate, impressed pretty much everyone, and killed Ulfrik, but nobody seems to care anymore. Even Imperial soldiers treat me like a commoner when i'm ranks above them!

More importantly, as Listener of the Darkbrotherhood, leader of the Thieves Guild, Archmage, Legate of the Legion, head of the Companions, and the Dragonborn, why the

can't I raise an army of Thieving werewolf mage assassin legionnaires and take over Tamriel? Better yet, I'd love to take that army and go kick the Thalmor off the continent

**Battle Brother Lucifer**

Didnt bethesda say we can do 'everything npc's can do'?
Cause Im mad I cant play the fething lute.
And marry another Khajiit.

You can be straight, gay, inter-racial, scalie, but not furry.

**Grey Templar**

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Didnt bethesda say we can do 'everything npc's can do'?
Cause Im mad I cant play the fething lute.
And marry another Khajiit.

You can be straight, gay, inter-racial, scalie, but not furry.

Because they are racist towards furries.

**LordofHats**

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Didnt bethesda say we can do 'everything npc's can do'?
Cause Im mad I cant play the fething lute.
And marry another Khajiit.

You can be straight, gay, inter-racial, scalie, but not furry.

There aren't that many Khajit in the game to begin with. The Nords are really really racist XD

**Grey Templar**

They don't seem to mind the Khajiit or Argonians too much, just elves of any kind(excluding orcs, they don't seem to mind orcs)

**LordofHats**

Grey Templar wrote:They don't seem to mind the Khajiit or Argonians too much, just elves of any kind(excluding orcs, they don't seem to mind orcs)

There are practically no Khajit in the Nord cities. They live in little ghetto tents outside the gates because the Nords don't trust them... Then again it doesn't help that the one Khajit I talked to about it said "I have an unfortunate nature to always run into trouble with the law."

**Grey Templar**

To be fair, any khajiit that makes it all the way to Skyrim is either a wealthy trader or a no good vagabond on the run from the law. Either way, the Nords won't like you.

**LordofHats**

Grey Templar wrote:To be fair, any khajiit that makes it all the way to Skyrim is either a wealthy trader or a no good vagabond on the run from the law. Either way, the Nords won't like you.

I like to think of the Khajit as the Mexicans of Tamriel. No body wants them around, they end up having to do illegal things to get by, and the Nords are always watching walls to make sure they stay on the other side

I call them, Mexicats!

**Battle Brother Lucifer**

The Nords all hate Argonians x2, but you can marry two or three of em

I want a caravan kitty wife

**Grey Templar**

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:The Nords all hate Argonians x2,

Well, yes, but they hate all Elvesx100 so only being hatex2 is fairly good on the hate meter.

**sebster**

Manchu wrote:Anyone else find their detsro/resto character way OTT? I stopped at level 16 and restarted as a dual wielding stealth character, which is at least somewhat challenging.

I've not played a spell caster, but apparently Destruction ends up really underpowered in the end, as the spell damage doesn't scale like other combinations. All you can do it keep reducing the cost of spells, whereas something like a melee specialist gets perks granting 100% damage increase, plus the crazy bonuses from smithing your own weapons, plus the crazy bonus from enchanting it.

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Phototoxin wrote:Finished it with my orc stabby/fighty thing. Not as RP-y as oblivion I felt. Go here, kill that. Find X stab Y.

Really?

On that level I found the two games pretty much identical, having a modest number of quests that can be resolved without combat, but most based around going somewhere and killing loads of stuff.

The real difference, in my opinion, was the massive difference in quality and quantity of voice acting. In Oblivion everyone kind of sounded the same, and had basically the same things to say, but in Skyrim there was a great deal more variety in voices, and they were delivered in a much more convincing, interesting way.

Oh, and the leveling system wasn't completely stupid this time around.

**LordofHats**

I actually think what Oblivion had that Skyrim didn't is a certain fun factor. Somehow, the quest lines and adventures in Oblision were more fun for me than Skyrim. The actual writing of the story lines for Skyrim just feels, weaker. Especially the main quest. Sad to say the conflict between the Thalmor and the Empire is infinitely for interesting than any other in the game and yet, almost nothing is done with it in Skyrim other than stage setting.

**Grey Templar**

I think that the next game will have something to do with round 2 of the war.

Now the real question is weather Skyrim will be an independent nation or will it still be a part of the Empire.

I am hoping for Independent nation that has a powerful army that can stand up to the Thalmor while the Empire crumbles away around it. The Elves unable to squash the Nord threat, possably now with some Dragon allies.

Maybe they will bring the Dwemmer back from the dead. A small amount have survived in some secluded spot.

**Battle Brother Lucifer**

Grey Templar wrote:
Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:The Nords all hate Argonians x2,

Well, yes, but they hate all Elvesx100 so only being hatex2 is fairly good on the hate meter.

Gotcha. You can marry a ton of elves. Its unfair I tell ya!
And not being able to play instruments
And skooma not having any fun effects other than +25 stamina

**Grey Templar**

That was one thing about Fable, drinking liquor actually impaired your vision and controls.

**LordofHats**

I'm fairly certain one expansion will be the conclusion of the civil war, as right now the moot hasn't happened in game and there's still no High King.

**Anvildude**

halonachos wrote:I will have to say that the blood mod does indeed make the blood look better so I may have to look at that. If you want to make a lot of gold just go do all of the DB quests. Its about 1,000 gold for each main quest and a special item should you do the optional objective. The last quest offers you a reward of 20,000 and after the main quests are done you have an infinite number of lesser assassinations you can do for 800 each.

After doing all of the DB quests I managed to pocket 40,000 gold with collecting and selling what I had along with hitting up the wife for some cash every once and awhile. If I had saved up my money I would have a lot right now, but I have three houses full of items that I really need to sell and organize. As with Oblivion, I am on a personal journey to collect the armor of the city guards from each city and have all of them except for Windhelm I think.

Now as far as dragons go, kill the one in Whiterun because it seems to be the only way to get them to appear. For me they usually appear in Dawnstar for some odd reason.

I enjoy the perk system but I do agree that unarmed should have its own little tree, but what are you going to kill in Skyrim with your bare fists? They don't have power fists like they do in Fallout after all.

They have magicka for that. Or spiked gauntlets, or brass knuckles, or any number of things that they could have done. I've personally missed Unarmored since they got rid of it for Oblivion. Was nice to have a mage not need fancy enchantments or bulky armour to be able to take a hit.

Also, is anyone else supremely annoyed (and rather confused) that you're only allowed one ring at a time? I mean, comeon, the entire game is about not having limits, and you've just implemented a dual-wielding system. But only one ring?

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Grey Templar wrote:You can be a Werewolf. Thats plenty of beast transformation for me.

And lets face it, who could proudly say they beat the game using their army of Skeever and Mudcrab minions to take over Skyrim?

I would. Mudcrabs, anyways. Those things are vicious!

I do have a question, though: Did anyone else note that little bit of lore about the Emperor of Tamriel having always been Dragonborn, until Martin Septim? And the current 'Emperor' is a mewling milk-drinker bowing to the will of the Thalmer. And you're the new Dragonborn. And you've just ended a Civil War (and basically ended up running) one of the most War-able provinces in Tamriel.

Yeah, Dovakiin's gonna be Imperator Pontificus pretty soon, I'd say.

**Grey Templar**

Current Emperor?

*shink ahhhhh

"What Emperor?"