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Awesome model.
Awesome example how people can do their best to be mean about the most random things and make an argument out of it.

It IS undoubtedly an awesome model. I'm just not sure it's an awesome model for followers of Khorne, as opposed to followers of Arhra, father of (yes!) Scorpions

LunaHound wrote:

Lord_Mortis wrote:I like the model. But when I first saw it, I said to myself "I have seen this before...."

http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139817&page=2

They look pretty much identical , are they the same modeler?

They are damn identical looking!
Either the guy works and models for FW or they saw his scratch-build and stole the idea.

Wouldn't be the first time; My friend Tom used to be a GW staffer and had his chaos Defiler with a toy he-man torso on top conversion in the store cabinet for ages.
2-3 years later and Codex: Daemons comes out and GW release an identical looking model in the Soul-thingy!

Aren't Brass Scorpions daemonically possessed warmachines?

And isn't there huge amounts of worlds within the Eye of Terror where time holds no meaning, and the Dark Mechanicus holds sway with their hoopla and shenanigans?

If the above answers are yes...
Then I see no reason whatsoever that a Chaos Warmachine would look far far more advanced than a Loyalist equivalent.

It does seem like a Talos, but only if you pay attention to the fact that it's organic looking and no spikes/skulls screaming at you from all over it...

Anyone noticed a Scorpion theme going on in Forgeworld? There's the Red Scorpions Space Marines, and the red Brass Scorpion...

Lorizael wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

Lord_Mortis wrote:I like the model. But when I first saw it, I said to myself "I have seen this before...."

http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139817&page=2

They look pretty much identical , are they the same modeler?

They are damn identical looking!
Either the guy works and models for FW or they saw his scratch-build and stole the idea.

Wouldn't be the first time; My friend Tom used to be a GW staffer and had his chaos Defiler with a toy he-man torso on top conversion in the store cabinet for ages.
2-3 years later and Codex: Daemons comes out and GW release an identical looking model in the Soul-thingy!

If you read the article, you'll find Athamas copied the design for his brass scorpion from some concept sketches for daemon engines that were found at a games day.

The 'skull free' motif is by far the most pleasing aspect of its design.

George Spiggott wrote:The 'skull free' motif is by far the most pleasing aspect of its design.

I bet it's still screaming, though. And in a way, it's bald, too.

That is a pretty cool conversion. I did think it was ironic that I thought the foregeworld one was a talos before I read the ID line then I saw your conversion and....they used DE vehicle parts!! Blood for the..........soul eating god thingermajigy!!!!

Aren't they all just "degrees of evil?"

It depends on which side you're fighting.

The final product looks similar to the original concept done by Forgeworld, and the conversion mentioned a few posts ago was clearly based on the FW design. I'd say it looks closer to the FW one than the final product does! IMHO it's a beautiful sculpt, and I suspect it will be picked up for use with my Black Legion army at some point!

Quixote wrote:Aren't they all just "degrees of evil?"

You ask me for an evil hamburger. I hand you a raccoon.

hmm... Im of two minds about this model. I like it very much, but I cant help feeling its a bit too.... hmm... how shall I put this... squat? dumpy? does anyone see where Im coming from?

I realy like the model, however it doesnt quite fit my idea of what a brass scorpion looks like and looks more like a dark eldar talos. I personaly think the defiler conversion is a better model but i give my props its still a nice model

George Spiggott wrote:The 'skull free' motif is by far the most pleasing aspect of its design.

x2.

I like it. Even as an old Epic/Titan Legions player, I like this new take. I really can't stand the annoying "Evil Knights with spikes" visual style that has completely overrun Chaos (and it's even worse in Fantasy). There's nothing actually chaotic about it!

I like it because it doesn't try to overwhelm you with childish "Look at me! I'm an evil sociopath!" decorations. It's far too focused on killing you as quickly and efficiently as possible to worry about how scary it appears.

captain.gordino wrote:

Quixote wrote:Aren't they all just "degrees of evil?"

You ask me for an evil hamburger. I hand you a raccoon.

Consider yourself sigged, sir. I have run into many raccoons before and it was never pleasant.


Edited because apparently the colloquiol shortening of raccoons makes Dakka mad.

Platuan4th wrote:

George Spiggott wrote:The 'skull free' motif is by far the most pleasing aspect of its design.

I bet it's still screaming, though. And in a way, it's bald, too.

Can it point though?

With the tail.

Railguns wrote:

captain.gordino wrote:

Quixote wrote:Aren't they all just "degrees of evil?"

You ask me for an evil hamburger. I hand you a raccoon.

Consider yourself sigged, sir. I have run into many [see forum posting rules] before and it was never pleasant.

Sigged, sweet! I think I've moved up a Dakka level. Watch it H.B.M.C., I'm comin' your way!

I'm also curious as to what you meant by the term which was covered by the mods...

Well, it's got great execution but the model concept sucks. What part of this thing says "Khorne"? With all those curved plates, it looks like there was an Eldar on the design team. I hate it. And I usu. go all feth ing fanboi over FW. I just can't stand the "ass in the air, face in the pillow" pose. I'd hate to see what's behind it! Excellent execution of the model in the technical sense, let's hope FW doesn't bung it up with their seemingly on-and-off casting quality, but you will never see one of these in my house, not if it was free.

The plates are curved as a whole, but have straight, blocked off edges.

But really, this things says "Khorne" because its a giant red killing machine. It needn't be more complicated than that. Demons are made tailored to their role, a machine demon wouldn't look like the possessed vehicles of Chaos Marines.

Nurglitch wrote:Anyone noticed a Scorpion theme going on in Forgeworld? There's the Red Scorpions Space Marines, and the red Brass Scorpion...

But didn't we already cover that is is in fact not a Scorpion

grizgrin wrote: I hate it. And I usu. go all feth ing fanboi over FW. I just can't stand the "ass in the air, face in the pillow" pose. I'd hate to see what's behind it!

Face down! Ass up! That's the way we like to f-......flay our enemies?!

Railguns wrote:Edited because apparently the colloquiol shortening of raccoons makes Dakka mad.

You being from Louisiana and the South, you should honestly know why.

You want a real daemon engine...
Watch Christine.
Come to think of it, Christine was red too...

14th Cadian

grizgrin wrote:I just can't stand the "ass in the air, face in the pillow" pose. I'd hate to see what's behind it!

I'm sure any FW Titan model would fill that void.
I'm never going to look at this model the same way now. And I'm now going to ridicule the crap out of anybody who uses it.

grizgrin wrote:I just can't stand the "ass in the air, face in the pillow" pose.

Awesome!

If I sig-quoted, that'd be added.

JHDD: So long as you referenced the statement to the FW model. Or at least make it a link to this thread. Taken by itself it's just not true

The model has some really great points, I admit. The large flat plates are crying out for airbrush violation. It's actually very fluffy from the perspective that the skull throne gets the skulls, not the models.

But the FW Brass Scorpion looks like it's in heat, period. The pose kills it.

grizgrin wrote:I just can't stand the "ass in the air, face in the pillow" pose.

The only problem with this statement is that this is actually how most Scorpions stand when using their tails, so it's a fairly accurate pose for something modeled upon a scorpion.