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When I read the HH novels, I always play the scene out in my head, and I can't help but imagine certain characters as certain actors. SO (at risk of running the thread straight into new and frightening territory) who would feature? Startting with Horus Rising, here's who I have so far -

Karkasky : Ian Holm
Sinderman : Ian McKellan
Loken : Christian Bale
Abaddon : Robert Carlisle (cause no man gets angry better than the Carlisle)
Torgaddon : Brendan Gleeson
Aximand : Vin Deasil (i know he's a total dough-ball, but c'mon, he busted his wee acting chops off in Saving Private Ryan)

I am at a loss as to the others :p Primarchs are a bit of a tough one, although Hugo Weaving should defo be one :p

I don't think that a WH40k movie should have any famous actors at all. I like the animation they did in the original dawn of war intro. They should make a movie entirely like that. It allows for essentially anything you would want, as opposed to an actor's limits, make-up, expensive props etc.

I second that motion, NO FAMOUS PEOPLE ALLOWED

Also the animation would allow for more ridiculous pieces of weaponry(SAG)

jab4962 wrote:I don't think that a WH40k movie should have any famous actors at all. I like the animation they did in the original dawn of war intro. They should make a movie entirely like that. It allows for essentially anything you would want, as opposed to an actor's limits, make-up, expensive props etc.

I agree with this, I think it's probably be the most effective way to conquer the vastness of the universe and it's lore...

the only thing that's dissuading me from this train of thought is waiting to see what Jim Cameron's done with Avatar...maybe, just maybe a WH40K film could be made as he's made Avatar?

Another thing i've just gotta put in tho...Clancy Brown would totally RULE as Horus in a HH film!!! Especially with that gruff voice from the Highlander days LOL!

I think practically, 40k's best bet would be the Horus Heresy. If it started in the 41st millennium there would be quite a bit of willing suspension of disbelief required. If the story was started from the beginning (and the story would have to be humans, No one would want to watch a bunch of aliens beat up humans without us winning in the end) it would make sense. I agree with the trilogy or quadrilogy idea, but it would have to be one from the beginning to prevent another matrix reloaded from happening.

If they made a trilogy, Horus Heresy only. If it were to become a quadrilogy, Horus Heresy, and the last movie about it in shambles, and the universe struggling to keep itself alive. NO GOOD ENDINGS!!!! I WANT THIS TO BE A DARK AND SOMEWHAT DEPRESSING MOVE!!!!

RobDA wrote:Another thing i've just gotta put in tho...Clancy Brown would totally RULE as Horus in a HH film!!! Especially with that gruff voice from the Highlander days LOL!

That is one of the best ideas to come out of this thread!

If they got lazy, they could just make FireWarrior into a movie.



If they do make a 40k movie, they have to get Celldweller to make the music for it.

jabbakahut wrote:

RobDA wrote:Another thing i've just gotta put in tho...Clancy Brown would totally RULE as Horus in a HH film!!! Especially with that gruff voice from the Highlander days LOL!

That is one of the best ideas to come out of this thread!

Hey thanx man :-)

If they did make a 40k movie i would see it. But, as a word of advice, I suggest that nobody get their hopes up too high. The producers might stay true to the fluff, but knowing Hollywood they probably won't. But its possible that they may make a movie, because at E3 this year Relic announced the making of a space marine game that looks decent, and hopefully this leads down the path to a cinematic story.

P.S. If it involved the Primarchs, that would be funny if they had Hugh Jackman play Leman Russ. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

I really hope Hollywood never get the rights or anything...they'll screw the lore right up...it doesn't need any arty touches or anything it needs to be gritty, massive and overwhelmingly moody... if it were to go to hollywood it would get swarmed with that annoying 'sheen' that they seem to coat everything with...

There are modern exceptions...but the overall track record is not favoured...and they should not be allowed to use a franchise as big and reputable as WH40K to 'prove' they can do anything other than big, colourful and corny lol

If you let say Jim Cameron do it, I have every confidence that he'd nail it...but the input of complete WH40K 'hacks' is the most important step...and making sure you get that really bloody, moody vibe about it...I mean it's the 31st Millenium and before...

'In the grim darkness of the far future...there is only war' - they don't say that for poo's and giggles ;-)

Attcually my brother is planning on making a movie and he studies film. He May make a IG movie though. But he needs it improved by GW

I like this, I too study film and have a variety of Storyboard forms of scenes I want to make next year on my film course.

Altho I do not know how feasible it is going to be I intend to make quite a job of it...

What doesn your brother have planned? Or can't you say?

Cheers

I apologize if this point has been raised before, but I'm afraid I am just to fethin lazy to read through 7 pages of thread to see if my point has been raised and then smashed to pieces already.

The Star Trek movie is a great model for what the Warhammer movie should be.

-ducks as dakkites start throwing things at him-

Here's why: The Star trek movie did two things. First, it used the relatively unknown backstory of a famous character (Kirk) and had enough crazy CGI, action, and hot multi-racial chicks to lure in Trekies, and those who looked upon Startrek as the lowest form of Geekiness imaginable.

So this is what it means for the movie.

1) it can NOT focus on Horus, because we've learned pretty much everything there is to know about the fether and those of us who aren't just tired of his angst know enough about him will never be satisfied with any rendition of him.

2) It mus focus on an ambiguous chapter of some famous character (again, not Horus! No one would be satisfied with any Horus that GW could give us... just face it ). This means that it'll be satisfying to those of us who have always wondered about tht one guy who did that one thing and then subsequently flew off into the sunset, never to be hear from again. It also introduces a character with a defined place in the wonderful world of Warhammer 40k which would hopefully draw potential fans of the movie who are strangers to our nerdy ways.

Further, it must NOT be about Space Marines. People would not relate to them. IG or Inquisition would be about it, really.

Terra Unification Wars would work a treat I feel

I like the idea of a WH40k movie about IG or Inquisition, because fans could relate to the characters. But I still think there should be space marines *but*, they should not play a significant role. Suggestion, if there were a few batlefiesld focusing on Ig or whatever, and you see some SM's of in the distance or one goes of a killing spree for a few seconds and then gets his head blown off, etc. Again, nothing significant.

RobDA wrote: Terra Unification Wars would work a treat I feel

I strongly second this.

Techno Barbarians are WAAAAAAYYYY cooler than SpezMarenes

The earth as it was during those times is a great setting- familiar enough to be relatable (and believable) but still massively different.

Cool factions like the Roma would add interest that - 'then we drop podded in and owned face' - would not

You could have regular human protagonists, and still get plenty of OMGWTFBBQ moments when a proto-space marine squad shows up in Thunderer armor and starts boltering everything

The emperor would be waaay easier to develop as a character in this context than if you started w/ the crusade

You can just leave a lot of stuff unexplained in this context and you can't if you skip to the great crusade. People couldn't be expected to just accept that there are giant superhumans led by angellic men in robot suits flying around the galaxy killing aliens for a god, who isn't, won't admit he is, but sort of is divine.

Whereas a Terra unification war movie could (and should) set up like the first Mad Max. You don't really know why everything is screwed up, which really makes everything that much more menacing.

Silverthorne wrote:

RobDA wrote: Terra Unification Wars would work a treat I feel

I strongly second this.

You could have regular human protagonists, and still get plenty of OMGWTFBBQ moments when a proto-space marine squad shows up in Thunderer armor and starts boltering everything

The emperor would be waaay easier to develop as a character in this context than if you started w/ the crusade


I agree, altho I think it'd be really cool if the story centered in on, like you say the human protagonists and a MArine maybe....always keeping the Emperor as a 'mentioned' part of the narrative, but ultimately a massive mystery...until say the end of this gargantuan 4hr film when you get a glimpse of him (not full face) maybe congratulating one of the Thunder Warriors on their successes.

I think it's really important with that sort of character to build it up and not disclose too much too soon.

Ultimately the central characters to the narrative would remain parts of the warring factions on Terra......I think the film would be awesome if it were titled 'Terra'.

That way the fanboys would know, the general public would be quite curious.

Apologese...my previous post was my quote within a quote lol

A 'school boy error' some might say....

I hope you're all well :-)

Just a little imput, sorry if anyone has already said this but, I don't think people would not see the film if they didn't play or know of the game, if it looked like a good sci-fi or action film they would see it, people still watched LOTR without knowing or reading the books.

Also, I don't think that Warhammer 40k would become a fad, it requires too much devotion and money to become a simple 'fad'

Great Unlclean One wrote:Just a little imput, sorry if anyone has already said this but, I don't think people would not see the film if they didn't play or know of the game, if it looked like a good sci-fi or action film they would see it, people still watched LOTR without knowing or reading the books.

Also, I don't think that Warhammer 40k would become a fad, it requires too much devotion and money to become a simple 'fad'

Absolutely...that's why I think starting with the Terra Unification Wars would be a great idea...it sets out everything.

I agree with RobDA. I think that if the movie was set during the Terra Unifacation Wars it would allow people who have not expierienced warhammer at least an attempt to understand what the entire thing is about. If the 40k movie thing becomes huge, they should make a trilogy. Heres a suggestion:

What if the made it a tilogy based on the time periods that we know. What i mean by this would be: 1st movie=Terra unifacation wars, 2nd movie=Golden Age, 3rd movie=41st millenium.

P.S. I think If GW made a little more history as to who the emperor is that would be great and if they involved the primarchs that would be good too.

There has been a movie made, i niotice no-one has mentioned inquisitor on here or is it unknown, link goes to youtube and it's in 4 parts not great i know but gives an idea that it can be done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFrdBubVT78&feature=related
all 4 parts are here and has info on who made it etc under more info next to the guys name who posted it

Vulkan77 wrote:There has been a movie made, i niotice no-one has mentioned inquisitor on here or is it unknown, link goes to youtube and it's in 4 parts not great i know but gives an idea that it can be done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFrdBubVT78&feature=related
all 4 parts are here and has info on who made it etc under more info next to the guys name who posted it

Well, I agree, it wasn't great, but I enjoyed it, cause it's 40k.
Of course, that might be a good sign for the movie maker.

Vulkan77 wrote:There has been a movie made, i niotice no-one has mentioned inquisitor on here or is it unknown, link goes to youtube and it's in 4 parts not great i know but gives an idea that it can be done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFrdBubVT78&feature=related
all 4 parts are here and has info on who made it etc under more info next to the guys name who posted it

No, that was made by GW along with some other stuff, there was the independent movie that got shut down a few years ago by GW legal, but you can find it on torrent.


And I totally disagree with the unification wars BS, you can't walk people into this all easy, hit them with something they didn't expect, otherwise all you're talking about is another Starship Troopers.

Maybie they could do Armageddon? That had, orks, IG and Space Marines and wouldn't need much explaining, just alien invaders getting ass kicked by Yarrick and then some random superhumans popping up from the sky. For non 40k ers they would just think it was a random battle but 40k players would know about the history, thus it would mean different things to different people. I'm thinking about the 1'st armageddon war, they could make sequels of the 2nd and 3rd or stick it into one film which would be a bit rubbish tho...

jabbakahut wrote:

Vulkan77 wrote:There has been a movie made, i niotice no-one has mentioned inquisitor on here or is it unknown, link goes to youtube and it's in 4 parts not great i know but gives an idea that it can be done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFrdBubVT78&feature=related
all 4 parts are here and has info on who made it etc under more info next to the guys name who posted it

No, that was made by GW along with some other stuff, there was the independent movie that got shut down a few years ago by GW legal, but you can find it on torrent.


And I totally disagree with the unification wars BS, you can't walk people into this all easy, hit them with something they didn't expect, otherwise all you're talking about is another Starship Troopers.

How exactly is Unification Wars walking people into the franchise all easily? Thats exactly what you'd need to do in order for it to be a film that not only WH40K enthusiasts but for people outside of the lore to be able to relate and 'get it'. A film like this would have to contest every 'major' box office smash...because the lore is too big to just be made into a b-movie bargain bin type project.

In order for it to be a successful franchise, you'd need to introduce certain characters at a time when they can make most sense...look at what they did with star wars for instance. I think the easiest approach for this would to start it off with the emperors initial conquest of our own planet...then deviate afterward...

For something the size of WH40K, you'd need to enlighten everyone who wishes to view it with what the lore is all about....hence starting at the terra unification wars would be ideal for continuation of narrative. I mean you you could introduce a film set nearer the horus heresy with a background...but I do feel that it'd be good to let people who are maybe just becoming introduced to it to know what the emperors intentions are...then in later films they can eventually understand whats going on and where things went wrong (HH)

Dashofpepper wrote:I went to see 1.5 hours of almost nonstop fighting, interspersed with cliches and Imperium mantras. A lot of the Warhammer 40k books offer a decent plot / story / etc, it couldn't be that hard to make a movie with a good story. Hell, the story behind Dawn of War would make a good movie.

It would be really corny unless they made it animated like the DoW intro. 1.5 hours then would not work as the makers take ages to do that fancy animation. plus it would not bring in the ticket sales that would be worth making it for because it caters to too small an audience. Not many people would go if it were branded Warhammer. It is quite unpopular to many people, the fools think it is nerdy. It is a shame as I would love to see a 40K film!

I personally think they should make a Space Wolf movie because i really like the story and their extra abilities. I don't think they would be able to make a movie of the Horus Heresy movies. There would be to many details they'd need and they'd need like 4 really long movies to fit them all in.

Copy this link to see a weird attempt at a warhammer movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBf-epKL1pc