BlastScape Craters are made to a really poor Quality... [Photos]

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**H.B.M.C.**

LunaHound wrote:I must also express my suspicion that over 60% of GW customers suffers certain degree of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

The one you're replying to seems to have been getting over his case of this in recent weeks.

**coyotius**

My buddy got his today and he initially didn't think anything of it until I copied him on this thread and he now says that they are indeed nothing like the advertised photos. Here's a photo he took alongside the moonscapes (that he ordered at the same time). Both look of the same quality, which in my opinion, is substandard. Mine will most likely arrive saturday since I direct ordered them. I'm unsure what I'll do then. If I had wanted Amera vac formed terrain I would have ordered from them.

As a side note, I direct pre-ordered the booby traps on the first day they were on the website. Yesterday I got an e-mail saying they were sold out at the time of my order...B.S. I hopped on the phone and was able to buy FRPgames' last one. Considering they're resin I hope they're at least on par with FW...which isn't saying much anyway.

I wonder if the "battle"-scape will also be vacuum formed? In which case that might also be a product to avoid.

**Battle Foam**

Told you guys. Lunahound is totally right. .25 cents is just about right for something that crappy. I priced terrain out like this with a manufacturer in China. The same place GW gets theirs. I was quoted .50 cents per unit shipped to me in Arizona. I needed to order at least 500 but large discounts could be had at larger amounts ordered. I only needed about 100 for a tournament, but non the less. I would bet my bottom dollar GW spent less then .30 cents for each of these craters.

That is no joke. So .30 cents X 5 per bag they paid $1.50 for the set. You pay $20.00 and it looks like crap. GW makes a profit of $18.50 on each sucker that buys this junk. WOW. All I can say is WOW.

I'm all for companies making profit but on crap like this with that kind of profit. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Romeo
Battle Foam

**king88mob**

so has anyone actually tried to paint these up? I got mine, they were the same quality as the moonscape, maybe a little flimsier. I'm not particularly impressed but at the same time they were cheap (by GW standards)

I'm going to add texture (sand / glue etc) and see how it goes. I've opened the package but so far haven't put a brush to it. I bought them from the UK so any chance of returning them is pretty much gone.

**LunaHound**

Sgt Diablo wrote:Told you guys. Lunahound is totally right. .25 cents is just about right for something that crappy. I priced terrain out like this with a manufacturer in China. The same place GW gets theirs. I was quoted .50 cents per unit shipped to me in Arizona. I needed to order at least 500 but large discounts could be had at larger amounts ordered. I only needed about 100 for a tournament, but non the less. I would bet my bottom dollar GW spent less then .30 cents for each of these craters.

That is no joke. So .30 cents X 5 per bag they paid $1.50 for the set. You pay $20.00 and it looks like crap. GW makes a profit of $18.50 on each sucker that buys this junk. WOW. All I can say is WOW.

I'm all for companies making profit but on crap like this with that kind of profit. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Romeo
Battle Foam

Tyty, im very informative about factories in asia ( my whole family does business there ) .
I also know they make counterfeit warhammer stuff (had a whole thread on it long ago , most people laughed at me! )

king88mob wrote:so has anyone actually tried to paint these up? I got mine, they were the same quality as the moonscape, maybe a little flimsier. I'm not particularly impressed but at the same time they were cheap (by GW standards)

I'm going to add texture (sand / glue etc) and see how it goes. I've opened the package but so far haven't put a brush to it. I bought them from the UK so any chance of returning them is pretty much gone.

Everytime you bend / push down / the primer coat will crack and paint will flake off :/

**Battle Foam**

The only kind of primer that will have any kind of chance on working with this crap will be Krylon Fusion for plastic. These paints really stick amazingly well to plastic and I've used them on my dirt bikes fenders. They take rock chips and bend all the time. No chips or scraped paint. If your going to give these crappy terrain pieces a go, get this primer and paint. GW sprays will pop right off.

Also don't forget to wash the things before you start painting them. They have mold release all over them when they come out of the mold. It may not look like they do but there is always a bit a residue on them.

Romeo
Battle Foam

**coyotius**

Amera's painting page

I imagine the results will be the same...very smooth and shiny...just like real terrain.

**Battle Foam**

LOL, I love picture 2. Totally real looking.......ya right. Maybe it rained right before they took the picture. Thin plastic terrain for $20.00 = BS, GW selling us this crap = epic fail. Hey GW, stop rolling double one's with over priced crap like this.

Romeo
Battle Foam

**Dooks Dizzo**

I've seen the battlescape in person. It's solid and on par with the Temple of Skulls. No problems with that one.

**LunaHound**

Dooks Dizzo wrote:I've seen the battlescape in person. It's solid and on par with the Temple of Skulls. No problems with that one.

Wait , so its the same as it is in the pictures?
nothing like the one on youtube?

**coyotius**

I agree. Haha...rainy.

Hope it hasn't come across that I consider the Amera products cr@p. I've been tempted to buy from them actually. However, they don't attempt to make their products look like anything they aren't...which is the real "crime" here. If GW had just said "vacuum formed plastic" and painted a production set this thread wouldn't even exist.

**Neconilis**

LunaHound wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:So GW is selling a $0.25 thing for how much again?

There are 5 pieces , so it'll be $1.25 , the package materials 20 cents , so $1.45

30 cents goes toward charity of chinese child labor , $18 because it doubles as a game piece not just hobby.

sums up to perfectly even $19.75 usd

I must also express my suspicion that over 60% of GW customers suffers certain degree of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

The fact you've finally become embittered as well brings a warm tear to my eye and a smile to my face :')

You're entirely right though, there's very little else to add to the above. Though it boggles my mind even more to try and comprehend the people who insist on buying directly from GW.

**LunaHound**

Neconilis wrote:
The fact you've finally become embittered as well brings a warm tear to my eye and a smile to my face :')

You're entirely right though, there's very little else to add to the above. Though it boggles my mind even more to try and comprehend the people who insist on buying directly from GW.

xD actually im on my own little case .

How expensive GW is have nothing to do with me , aslong as im not the last one on the boat when people decide to stop puting up with GW's prices.
( if i can sell off my stuff before GW dies , im ok with which ever ^^)

**SignsPoint2Fail**

We should all just play Warmachine and Hordes. Privateer Press is awesome.

I might not even finish my guard army. I don't have the spare 500 dollars to make it playable -.-

**Mr. Bombadidaloo**

Perhaps GW intends to shift the majority of its mass-produced plastics to this in an effort to cut costs and stay in the market. Perhaps GW intends to implode.

This product is an insult to those that buy it. It is so bad that it it is an insult to those that buy it. If you buy this product, you will feel insulted. Insult. Just got your 20 dollar pre-order? GW is pointing at you and laughing. Bow your head in shame as GW raises its in devious mirth.

**SignsPoint2Fail**

What the duce is with them making people buy valk bases from forge world? That is one of the most slowed things i have ever heard...off topic sorry but still.

**RogueMarket**

SignsPoint2Fail wrote:We should all just play Warmachine and Hordes. Privateer Press is awesome.

I might not even finish my guard army. I don't have the spare 500 dollars to make it playable -.-

Privateer Press FTW

**BrookM**

SignsPoint2Fail wrote:We should all just play Warmachine and Hordes. Privateer Press is awesome.

I might not even finish my guard army. I don't have the spare 500 dollars to make it playable -.-

You honour your name, please take your off-topic banter somewhere else.

**Mick A**

Just spoke to GW mail order UK, seems that I was the first person to complain about the quality... They are going to send another set out to me. I'll let you all know if there is any difference in quality. Also spoke to my local GW shop, they say the stock they have is fine and painted up ok, they offered me the chance to bring mine in and compare it to their stock and if theirs was better I could just swap them. Can't do that til tomorrow though due to work.
Mick

**LunaHound**

Mick A wrote:Just spoke to GW mail order UK, seems that I was the first person to complain about the quality... They are going to send another set out to me. I'll let you all know if there is any difference in quality. Also spoke to my local GW shop, they say the stock they have is fine and painted up ok, they offered me the chance to bring mine in and compare it to their stock and if theirs was better I could just swap them. Can't do that til tomorrow though due to work.
Mick

Bring a camera :'p

**Panic**

yeah,
I emailed GW...

Yeah,
Order Number: xxxxxxxxx

I'm not happy with the poor quality of the BlastScape craters...

I called the GW customer service line.
I spoke to Yan who said that, GW hasn't had any complaints yet.
He wasn't sure if the issues I described was a fault with my packs or if that's how the product was supposed to look? I agreed to wait and confirm that the issue I had was wide spread or if I had a bad batch.

I had started a thread on an internet forum to discuss these pieces of terrain.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/248299.page
I think you should check this thread and read how disappointed GW customers and fans are that this product is not as advertised.
Bait and Switch is what they are calling it! And I'd have to agree.

So what I'd like to know is have you have had any more complaints since?
And
Are you going to replace mine with models of the standard I expect from GW?
Or would you like admit this is a terrible product that was advertised in a underhand manner and offer a apology and a refund.

Disappointed loyal GW Customer and Fan,

Panic.

The Ball is in their court...
Panic...

**Sidstyler**

I actually thought about getting a set of these, but feth that.

**H.B.M.C.**

Panic wrote:The Ball is in their court...

And you said my letter was cheeky? God...

At least I didn't accuse them of anything. I gave them the option to say "Yeah... uhh... totally a bad batch" (even if it wasn't) and offer some sort of fix.

**Flashman**

@ H.B.M.C. & Panic - Any responses to your emails yet?

**Panic**

yeah,
Not yet... but to be fair I only sent mine 3hrs ago.

Panic...

**BrookM**

I mailed them two days ago and haven't gotten a reply as of yet, so they could be playing the old "oops I pressed the red X button again"

**ancientsociety**

If GW doesn't respond in a timely manner and/or doesn't take this issue seriously, I'd suggest that someone who purchased these sets, send an email to http://consumerist.com/ and let them know the situation.

In my experience, when I've had issues with a company, and I let them know that if they don't try to make something right I'll post a story on Consumerist, they are VERY quick to respond. I'm sure most of you have heard about the musician who's guitar got busted by United Airlines ground crew and, since United failed to resolve the issue, he posted a music video on You tube about it? That was a Consumerist story long before the MSM got ahold of it.

**H.B.M.C.**

Well I posted my first reply a few pages back. The second reply I got was far shorter, amounting to essentially "Send it back to us".

So I'll go into GW tomorrow (didn't get a chance to go in today) and see what I can see.

**BrookM**

Hello there,

Thank you for your recent comments about this product and we are able to inform you that we have now passed these onto the relevant department to look into and we will be back in contact with you regarding this matter when we know more.

Yours Sincerely

Yan

**oni**

I read this over on Warseer...

Fixer wrote: "To follow up on this, I just contacted GW store to get my UKGT heat 3 ticket and ask about the blast craters.

There were two things said. Firstly that some other people had already complained, secondly that they were vacuum formed pieces and expected to look like that and thirdly and they were looking into the issue about quality and would have some word on it by the end of the day."

zetaplus wrote: "Guys a friend who is a stockist here in AU has advised me that GW have recalled all stock of the Blastscape crater set from them. They are not available for order for the next 6 weeks while they are remade. This guy does not have any reason to pull my leg, as we game regularly etc. Can anyone confirm this?"