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bhsman wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Just for fun i think, but never know!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/293377.page

Thanks for the link. Care to make a wager against my GK prediction?

Woo! whats your prediction?

LunaHound wrote:Woo! whats your prediction?

I'll just PM you the details so you as to not derail the topic

What I meant to say was that the first models I ever got were the tactical squad & land speeder and 20-man DE warrior squad that came with a core rule book, 6 dice, 2 rulers, and some scenery. I thought that the core rule book was 2nd Ed, but I guess I was mistaken.

Austragalis wrote:What I meant to say was that the first models I ever got were the tactical squad & land speeder and 20-man DE warrior squad that came with a core rule book, 6 dice, 2 rulers, and some scenery. I thought that the core rule book was 2nd Ed, but I guess I was mistaken.

That was 3rd Ed, 2nd Ed box had 2 SM tactical squads, 20 Goff Orks and 40 Grots. I might be wrong with the amount of greenskin minis, that was a few years ago

Austragalis wrote:What I meant to say was that the first models I ever got were the tactical squad & land speeder and 20-man DE warrior squad that came with a core rule book, 6 dice, 2 rulers, and some scenery. I thought that the core rule book was 2nd Ed, but I guess I was mistaken.

Wikipedia wrote:Third Edition (1998)

The third edition of the game was released in 1998, and like the second edition, concentrated on streamlining the rules for larger battles.[1] Third edition rules were notably simpler, and less prone to give characters abilities only on the roll of a die.[22] The rulebook was available alone, or as a boxed set with miniatures of Space Marines and the newly-introduced Dark Eldar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000


I know it, because I bought it with my brother, chose Dark Eldar, lost utterly and quitted 40k for some time

Erasoketa wrote:

Austragalis wrote:What I meant to say was that the first models I ever got were the tactical squad & land speeder and 20-man DE warrior squad that came with a core rule book, 6 dice, 2 rulers, and some scenery. I thought that the core rule book was 2nd Ed, but I guess I was mistaken.

That was 3rd Ed, 2nd Ed box had 2 SM tactical squads, 20 Goff Orks and 40 Grots. I might be wrong with the amount of greenskin minis, that was a few years ago

Nope, entirely correct. There was also a cardboard-cutout Deff Dread

I bought it second-hand sometime during 3rd edition from a friend, at least I think that was when I bought it. Early 2000s anyway. God, such a HUGE difference in quality between those Orks/SM and todays starter box content - the orks were so bloody hard to make look anything but boring, especially with all of them being identical. Oh well, all the old fluff was fun =)

EDITED BY MOD FRAZZLED for unnecessary flaming. What he really meant to say was Frazzled Mod is Bestest Mod!

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Terminus wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:quitted

That's not a word. Please stop tearing at what's left of the once-rich tapestry of the English language. :(

Wow, castigating a non-native speaker for poor grammar, in a public forum no less. You sir, receive a yellow card and lose two internets.

EDITED BY MOD FRAZZLED for unnecessary flaming. What he really meant to say was Frazzled Mod is Bestest Mod!

Terminus, please check where the person is from before criticizing their English. I know mine is not perfect and I grew up speaking it. Next time you want to criticize them try speaking in their native language.

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I get the feeling that, despite that comment, he is more lax about the situation than either of you.

Anyways, so how 'bout them Dark Eldar?

bhsman wrote:how 'bout them Dark Eldar?

I'm gonna have to say that Inquisition is next, as the codexes are no longer online and the models are being pulled from stores.

bhsman wrote:I get the feeling that, despite that comment, he is more lax about the situation than either of you.

Anyways, so how 'bout them Dark Eldar?

Yeah, how about them...

Are there no new news or rumors to discuss?

Sasori wrote:

Terminus wrote:English is my third, so you can blow me.

You need to chill out. Your being unnecessarily rude to me, and other members of the forum.

Yes, you really do need to be more careful and polite when speaking to other users in future.

Sigh temporarily closed whilst language is cleared and warnings given. Sorry for stepping no you redy.

Edited. Ok cleared up, lets keep to the topic.

Harry has spoken:

If pressed I would say GK will be early 2011
I posted this somewhere on here back in March maybe the start of April.
Putting the pieces together I have been increasingly sure about this since then.

But dark Eldar ARE released in the autumn.

All hail the Pie man, most trusted rumour source over at Warseer.

Redsan you seem to have a pretty good in on this whole thing. What are your thoughts? I will be soooo pissed if DE get the bump...again but I am not seeing anything as far as quality rumors go for either army.

AFAIK, Dark Eldar are still the next codex to roll out, tail end of this year, October or November time. Why so many people got into a flap over Grey Knights, who we won't see until next year IMO, I have no idea.

However I would be very surprised if we heard or saw much until 8th edition WFB has rolled out, with this being a core game, GW are keen to ensure that it gets its very own "moment in the sun". We do get Spearhead in the next (..right ?) WD, and that issue is very 40K heavy. You can actually play Spearhead missions without vehicles IIRC, but it is more designed -- not least by the game being played length wise, towards faster moving units and vehicles.

A cunning man might even look at this almost as us seeing some of the initial batting around of ideas and concepts for 6th edition 40K in some proto form.. but I don't reall want to get dragged onto that tangent as otherwise by tomorrow I'll be reading "OMG111 6th edition 40K is next year 11" or some such on all manner of interesting websites and blogs.

Then we get the new demon releases, which I'm sure will bring about the usual mixed views on the models which will generally mean GW have gotten them right, which is a nice tie in for both fantasy and 40K players of course.

We should also see a few other... hmm..almost random(ish) WFB releases as well perhaps, again "top up" kind of things, I guess a bit like they did with the old Medusa campaign. I'm not quite sure exactly what, but you've all seen the multitude of threadss.

Then the WFB boxset later in the year, followed by the Dark Eldar.

I would be amazed, although very happy, if we saw anything/much prior to UK Games Day, but they are coming.

..Hmm.. that rambled a bit more than I'd intended, apologies.

reds8n wrote:Why so many people got into a flap over Grey Knights, who we won't see until next year IMO, I have no idea.

It's because Daemon Prince Adramalech has been quite certain for several months that GK are the next Codex, and he also is rarely wrong.

And yes, Spearhead is in the WD next week.

reds8n wrote:We should also see a few other... hmm..almost random(ish) WFB releases as well perhaps, again "top up" kind of things...

Not sure I understand what you mean by "top up" kind of things - any way you can clarify that, Red?

Grey knights require a lot of reworking though, probably as much as Dark Eldar.

To the best of my knowledge the 'Inquisition' range has only one plastic kit, the Immolator (Ok half a kit). None of the Grey Knight vehicles have their own sprue, they're just base Space Marine kits IIRC.

Given that GW like to release a codex with half a dozen plastic kits, that's a lot of work for the Grey Knights when Dark Eldar are supposedly done and ready to go.

Kroothawk wrote:

reds8n wrote:Why so many people got into a flap over Grey Knights, who we won't see until next year IMO, I have no idea.

It's because Daemon Prince Adramalech has been quite certain for several months that GK are the next Codex, and he also is rarely wrong.

And yes, Spearhead is in the WD next week.

The problem with DPA is how very very vague he is. I'm not saying I distrust him or doubt his rumours, but they're not exactly statements of fact. I'm much more inclined to put my faith in a rumourmonger that spells out his information clearly, as opposed to one that leaves a degree of ambiguity to their statements. That's just my opinion though. YMMV and all that jazz.

Kroothawk wrote:

reds8n wrote:Why so many people got into a flap over Grey Knights, who we won't see until next year IMO, I have no idea.

It's because Daemon Prince Adramalech has been quite certain for several months that GK are the next Codex, and he also is rarely wrong.

And yes, Spearhead is in the WD next week.

There's more than only that, easily.

EDIT: What I should say is that there were other, more established reasons for it beyond DPA's little visions. We appreciate them all the same, though.

Death By Monkeys wrote:

reds8n wrote:We should also see a few other... hmm..almost random(ish) WFB releases as well perhaps, again "top up" kind of things...

Not sure I understand what you mean by "top up" kind of things - any way you can clarify that, Red?

He means 1-2 releases per army. Like how the orcs and Goblins got boarboys and river trolls completely out of the blue.
Most will be to fill holes in the armies (units without models) and some will be 'redos' of units in armies a long way off geting a new book.
There will likely be a few characters as well as they can sculpt them quickly and get a heap of cash for them.

I'm still a little irritated that demons took the August slot, completely out of the blue. But that's mostly because I've met a total of one demon player, so to me it appears that very few people care about this army. I'm sure that are a lot more than I'm aware and that the demon models release was, in fact, much needed.
But I know I'm not alone in lamenting that, had they not been separated from Chaos Marines, they wouldn't be occupying their own release slot, and Chaos could have otherwise gotten a new codex at this time.
Irrelevant at this point really.
And I suppose the DE position could be worse.
I appreciate this little update, thank you Kroot.

reds8n wrote: AFAIK, Dark Eldar are still the next codex to roll out, tail end of this year, October or November time. Why so many people got into a flap over Grey Knights, who we won't see until next year IMO, I have no idea.

However I would be very surprised if we heard or saw much until 8th edition WFB has rolled out, with this being a core game, GW are keen to ensure that it gets its very own "moment in the sun". We do get Spearhead in the next (..right ?) WD, and that issue is very 40K heavy. You can actually play Spearhead missions without vehicles IIRC, but it is more designed -- not least by the game being played length wise, towards faster moving units and vehicles.

A cunning man might even look at this almost as us seeing some of the initial batting around of ideas and concepts for 6th edition 40K in some proto form.. but I don't reall want to get dragged onto that tangent as otherwise by tomorrow I'll be reading "OMG111 6th edition 40K is next year 11" or some such on all manner of interesting websites and blogs.

I think you are 100% spot on about this, and I don't believe this is necessarily new. GW called Cityfight a different way to play 40K, but some it's core rules ended up in 5th edition. Apocolypse even pushed the envelope for vehicle squadrons (IG now get Leman Russ squadrons) and other FW only type units to test if folks would buy into it. They did and we're getting more of those bigger kits that are even showing up in codexes. Even the latest missions book is probably a good precursor as to how 40K missions will change for the next edition.

Stoked on dark eldar, thinking of starting an army if they turn out well, always liked them.

IF? IF?

You doubt the awesomeness that is the team of Phil and Jes?

Heretic.