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Billy the Kid..... Sorry .... *hangs head in shame*

Haha...ok Miss Dee...one will be called Billy.


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Just a quick update 50% done with the unamed 3rd Veteran Model...will post a pic tomorrow. Really pleased with him so far....

Today is a holiday in the Philippines, but I am having to catch up on work. Saying that, I've done 5hrs painting today.

Hi Hello How Are You!

So....I made a bit of a boo boo yesterday and stayed up painting till 2am, forgot to set my alarm, and arrived at work at 1030am.

Oops.

So here is the Space Marine Veteran. I am really really pleased with him so far. He is about 70% done. What do you think?

Also...tell me what you want me to paint next...if you look back all the ones undercoated are shown as WIPS.

Question of the Day: I have no access to White GW undercoat (my black is nearly out) is there a generic brand I can use?

Finally...as you are probably more of a fan of the miniatures than my painting please check out Olley's Armies...(I don't work for them) he designed most of them, and he still making awesome models in his shed.

Anyway. This Marine is called Eddy. Partly as his facial expression is similar to that of the Iron Maiden icon, and partly due the extreme number of eagles he has. I might stick a jump pack on his back.

Anyway. Will finish him tonight...and will get onto the next model which I am hoping will be communicated to me before I leave the office!

The Very Chickeny Chicken.


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Btw...when you look at that model (and all my others) the paint seems a little uneven...in that it doesn't end with a smooth finish...how do I correct that?

Also...how do I do hair?

love that marine! you have sooooo many models i wantt haha

When your friends quit, buy there models for beer money.

Its a good investment :-)

He is either saying. 'I want that one' or 'You just fudged with the wrong marine'

Thats looking good, specially the wings - you keep getting better so chin up. As to the smoothness a few washes will make it look smoother - just be careful to apply them carefully to their designated areas and wait for one to dry before adding another (or just use on generic wash for the whole thing). They might need watering down a tiny bit or you will end up with a very dark mini. He actaully looks a bit like one of mine before I've added washes so I'm confident that thats whats missing. Also the blob of putty under his feet isnt really helping!!

I use cheap Matt Acrylic car spray primer. The one I've tried and tested is called Hi-coat. I find it hard to tell the difference between that and citadel spray. just possibly it isn't as smooth, but not so as you'd notice. and Its genearlly less than half the price.

I did get all my friends models when they quit - mainly cos I had space - part of what got me into painting actaully - then of course I quit and GAVE them to some damned kids. I keep having the urge to try and track those kids down and say OI your to old to be playing with toys now - give em back - but I kinda lost touch with their dad so not sure where to look

Manoknok , what a great thread , your minis are just marvelous, Its also cool that your taking painting advice from from Ifalna and weety , beacause they obviously know what their talking about. your blog and the info within it is making me feel more confident to attempt to paint my guys. i will be watching how your painting skills progress , from now on and taking tips myself, i havent ever really tried to paint . just a few catachans and a chaplain . I am the same with illustartions as well , i have kept away away from colour my entire life scared to jump in , with so many things to consider, tone and complimentary colours. ect. although in graphics i use colour freely, maybe its a brush thing! ;-)
I too am hoping to get better at painting and might try out again today!
again nice blog, and wonderful minis

@ Weety tried your advice last night. A couple of washes with a 50% brown and water. I am really pleased with how it came out!

@ Neil101 Thanks mate! That sort of post is always good to come to work to in the morning. Not that I am posting at work oh no oh no. When I was younger I used to paint a model in 5mins. Now I take several hours (I need to speed up as I have a few hundred). My sole of piece of advice is take it slowly and have plenty of patience. Looking at your manifactorium (everyone should check out Neil's blog some great stuff there...but he is right no colour!) you have plenty of it. Just take your time.

When will the primarch be done? It is cool you are making your own legion! Legion makers are so hard to find now adays! but how are they gone for that long from the imperium?

So I am extremely pleased with this mini. In fact I think it is my best yet. Total painting time about 6hrs. Generally between midnight and 2am. Not a good time to paint, but the only time I have currently. (Its also not helpng my coffee addiction).

What do you all think? Any ideas for my next one?

Btw...this is my VERY FIRST COMPLETED SON OF SIGMAR!!

@ Asherian!

Hey man. Good point. I am waiting till I get some Sigmar bits from the UK - so around Xmas. I have a basic model already made. But I would really like to improve it as I saw this:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/315854.page#1909676


I am thinking thrud the barbarian, in space, with two hammers.

As for the fluff, reposted from page 1. What do you think?


Fluff Background

A long time ago at the ULU Gamesoc I had the pleasure of playing WFRP with the great Reverend Lepper. As a fresh faced undergrad who had been reading and using Lepper's work for literally years this was beyond a dream come true. One day the Rev didn't show, and me and a fellow roleplayer descended into the crypt (the society storage room) just to pass time. It was literally a treasure trove, and if someone had not been in their I think I would have significantly increased my collection on miniatures. But I didn't and we pulled out a dusty copy of Blood Bowl and had a game. In the box was a solitary white Dward, I think Pre-100th issue. In this time White Dwarf was good. And it included WFRP suppliments as well as bits on almost unknown games today (I am sure you know what I mean). But to cut a very long winded story short...this issue of WD had a WFRP scenario in it where a group of adventures stumbled up a Mt in Lustria and found a Space Marine Drop Pod.

This is partly what inspired this army. The other is the sometime dire, sometimes excellent Horus Heresy series, a fascination with the Last of the Mohicans twixt Pre-Heresy SM and...well..a lot of old minis that I need a explanation for....

I realize that if anyone reads this, some of you will be against it, but you know...in the old days all these games were linked together...and that's the key...it is just a game...

For your consideration...the 2nd Legion.

The Fluff.


During the Great Crusade, in a time before the Emperors Return to Terra but after the finding of the Primarch Alpharius, the Emperor in all his wisdom had a vision.
It was of his missing Primarchs. He saw that the powers of Chaos had ushered two off his sons into the warp, and saw their journey through it to a small planet where thousands of spacecraft and races had crashed trapped by unending solar storms and fluctuations in the Warp around the planet. Due to the anarchic nature of the Warp his two Sons, unknown brothers, crashed on the planet apart. Of one son he knew no more, but of the other he saw all his life from the crash of his birthing pod on the planet, his wars. He saw that at fifteen his young son had defended his village singlehandedly from green skin gretchens, and had defeated a green skin war band in retribution! He saw the freeing of a ancient squat forge-master and the bonds of friendship born between Super and Ab-human. He saw the boy, age fifteen receive a force weapon of unimaginable power as a gift from the Squats. He saw the unification of the human population – descended from thousands of ships crashed after becoming lost in the warp. He defeated men possessed by those beyond the Ghoul Stars.

Finally in the twilight of his vision he saw his son fight his son, brother fight brother. And his son who he had watched enter manhood in a matter of seconds remained un-defeated. The Emperor of all Mankind knew that this was his greatest Son, for he held no ambition yet the fulfilment of duty, no hope except the defeat of choas, and strength enough to defeat a brother without harm to himself. If ever he had an heir this was he for he knew he would not suffer the petty rivalries that plagued his found Sons and their Legions. The Eleventh Legion , that of his defeated Son who had been corrupted beyond all recognition but that of the Emperor were dispatched to the very edge of the galaxy where they were to give service in what was to be a unknown suicide mission of protection and diversion against the increasing threat of a species yet unknown to all bar the Emperor. The Emperor ashamed of his failure with the Eleventh, and wishing to conceal the identity of the Second till he could present his Son to all his Primarch’s as a completed family deleted from record all knowledge of these mighty Legions.

The Emperor of Mankind immediately returned to Terra leaving his first Son, Horus, as Warmaster on the Great Crusade in his place and asking his Sons to show their greatness! Upon Terra the Emperor knew he must create a device that would enable him to communicate with his Son through the warp storms that ravaged his planet. He knew it would take a generation to conceive and construct so, for this period he created the Council of Terra, and the Imperial Tithe so that his Empire, that of Mankind, would continue whilst he worked in solitude on what became known as the Golden Thrown, a device designed to communicate solely with his Son by halting time and thereby finding paths through the storm. He sent the gene-seed Legion of his Son to the planet, thought the warp, guided by himself on the Golden Thrown. It took immense concentration and around him events were unfolding that would bring to the very brink of destruction his Empire.
The Emperor having completed his Golden Thrown communicated with his Son for the first time and they bonded like no other Son had bonded to his father. By now his Son had ruled his people for fifty years and was seeking new challenges and was beginning to wonder why he had not aged whilst those around him passed into legend. The Emperor told him of his history, of his brothers, of his aims; for the enlightenment of all the galaxy and the defeat of Chaos, and told him that to transport him off of his planet was fraught with danger and that he would need travel alone, for only his super-human constitution could save him given that his planet had yet to invent any form of sophisticated space flight or automation and mass production.

The Son left his people and headed to the highest peak on his planet where he waited for a sign. A year later a pod crashed near his small campsite. The armoured men inside had not survived the landing and they were left where they lay. For inside the pod lay the means for the Primarch to leave the planet and reach his Legion above. His Father across interstellar distances directed him in the use of the craft and he left his homeworld promising that one day he would return and free his people. As he reached his Armada above the planet he was contacted by his Father who was heartbroken for his first Son, Horus, had turned against him, and civil-war had broken out in the Galaxy. Years passed as the armada slowly made their way through the warp to where they believed Terra lay, for no message more was heard from the Emperor for months.

Until the lost Primarch heard again from his father. He told his Son he had been imprisoned on his thrown after collapsing from the exertion of defeating his Son turned Traitor - Horus. He informed his Son that he must defeat the institutions that held him Prisoner, the Council of Terra (who were telling the populace he had been mortally and was a God, a Omnisiah, neither of which were correct), and seek his freedom if it take Millennia and the destruction of a Billion lives, for he foresaw the power of the institution and saw that it was corrupting his vision in to something intolerant and hateful and would lead to countless trillions being sacrificed in his name, and in the name of his still loyal though now misguided Sons. The Primarch told all this to his Legion and there was much sorrow. But from this the Legion yet untested with their new Leader grew stronger. For they resolved that if they were the last of the true Space Marines they could not fail in their task for the future of the human race was at stake. They must bring light to the darkplaces and there was no grimmer or darker place than the visage the Emperor was painting of the galaxy.

Though the journey through the warp for the armada took but a few years as they were guided by the Emperor himself on the outside Millennia had passed, and as armies of the Second Legion re-entered the Galaxy in the 41st Millennium it was one unrecognisable to all of them even the Emperor seeing through his sons mind that he had been trapped for ten thousand years.
Now the last of the Primarchs, his loyal Space Marines, and the armies of the Second Legion fight towards Terra and no man or monster shall stop them. For they must free the Emperor from the Imperium that has chained him, and bring enlightenment to the Galaxy once more. The Last of the Primarchs know that the task is near impossible but with the guidance of his imprisoned father they hope that finally right makes might.



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Anyone want any cheese with that fluff?


I told you I like last of the mohicans. Its reasonably similar in a completely different way.

Thats pretty different fluff!! but in keeping with what I've read in some of the horus heresy books.

Is that symbol on the shoulder pad like a two tailed comet?

He has more depth now thats for sure. but if you really wanted to go crazy you could now add highlights! The colour scheme is good - always a bonus when starting a new chapter. I once started my own chapter - they were red, blue and gold in a kindof alternating checkerboard pattern and they where scarily garish, but then I chickened out and painted blood angel symbols on em - said they were like the blood angels disco guard

quote "but then I chickened out and painted blood angel symbols on em - said they were like the blood angels disco guard "

Thanks for the advice patience is a fleeting thing is'nt it ,sometimes you have It , sometimes you don't .Good read on that fluff! different to the usual stuff. and thanks for the PLUG!

Ok Weety....how is the best way to go about highlighting? I am imagining mixing bone white and the colour of choice and carefully painting it on?

Your next project should be the resurrection of the Disco Warriors. 1,2,3, 4 we got Disco War.





@ Neil101 Thanks, and no worries!

that sounds about right. The army shot looks cool! You look like you could do witha big pile of space marine arms and those sigmarites will be nearly done!

also take your time never rush.

hey mano, checkit out http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/user/profile/35497.page.

Bob Olley, that guy who made the squats has joined dakka and is posting updates on his mini sculpture. At least I hope its him and not someone pretending.


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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1440/233422.page

that didn't seem to work any ways this is the forum he is posting his pics in

Hey Weet...you are right. I am in need of about 80 pairs of arms, and weapons, and backpacks.

If you read page one you'll see I made a elementary mistake a decade or so ago.

I checked out Bob Olley...awesome. I wonder if he will find it weird that we are trying hard to look after some of his early work?

Last night I knocked out most of a techmarine, and a captain 'Elvis' for my guard. I need to paint quciker because I calculated that if I am spending a average of 6hrs per model, and I have around 500 models, that is 83 days to paint. I can't afford that (time wise, or economically) so I did the 50% of the tech and 50% of the guard.

If I can finish them, and start another tonight I should be on track to finish late next year. Left my camera at home, so pics tomorrow!

Ahh time pressure. drag... (im guessing that means 83days of solid painting? thats quite a lot of hours). have you thought about selling your soul to the devil for faster hands?

I'm trying not to think about how long it will take me to paint every RT model ever... but then unlike yourself my real life isn't exactly busy and my job is so easy, I just wander down the road to Poundstretcher and sell stuff to people for 4 hours a day (slower pace of life down here in the west country - things get done dreckly, which means maybe tomorrow or possibly next week). But lets just say I will probably be here till I have a mid life crisis and then I will try and find something meaningful to do to regain the youth I frittered away painting minis

Bob olley - "we're not worthy, we're not worthy" cracked me up that did.

Arms and other such bits can aometimes be had online but obviously will cost more to post - try looking on the australian ebay they are closer to you.

Yep 83 days solid painting.

That is a little scary - I mean I like them, but am I prepared to waste that much time...no. But. Do I have anything better to do? Not really.

Haha.

Yes. I hope he doesn't think I am some sort of Wacko.

I am from the land of the Shire. So, work usually involves cider/beer and slaughtering chickens. As a vegetarian who doens't like cider I don't really fit in! Haha. Saying that, when I finally get home, the West Country is where I will be looking for my own little hobbit hole (literally, thats what I want).

Anyway. Bad day at the office. Also...I seem to have eaten something dodgy...I hope it wasn't the mayo that has been in my fridge for a long [i] time.

Mano

I like the cider, but if its not your cup of tea theres local ale and homebrewed blackberry mead. mmmmmmmmmmmm.
I like the idea of living in a hole - so long as it is on high ground or it'd be damp.

So obviously not a hundred percent done. The tech needs a back pack plus some tidying up and HIGHLIGHTS, whilst 'Elvis' (can you see his burners calling in the night?) needs a fair amount to do. I have to say, it is easier to paint plastic than metal, but metal is better.

Indeed




FYI, not appropriate to sing along to this band in the workplace.

EVER.


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Sorry about the rotations, I am on a vry old vry slow pc.

I really like the techmarine he looks very dark and gothic. 010101101 nice touch

where in the west contery do you wnat to go to? as im in frome somerset

I dont actually know to be honest.

As I don't have a spare gazillion I doubt I will be getting a house in the UK anytime soon.

It appears that Miss Dee and Weety are close to each other.

Dah dah duh

well if you look at the map I'm down at the little toe-like lump at the very tip of the southwest corner! so bout 200 miles from somerset. But similar accent and love of cider. If you look up picture postcards of St Micheal's mount that's the view I have from my flat - lucky me

Nice view.

I have a building site :-(

As soon as I got home I decided to concentrate and paint a model completely, carefully and quickly!

Total time: 1hr 15mins. (Btw...anyone know whence this miniature is from? He is defo a techmarine....)

I even did a little bit of highlighting, but probably not enough. And a wash. But probably not enough.

Still I am very pleased with him. He has a metal back pack somewhere in Lspace so I just need to find that.

Next model I aim to do in the same amount of time tonight.








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So to boost my Adeptus Cyberneticus I am thinking about getting some of these:

http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/CAV/latest/24501

And here is my intended Ratling Commissar:

http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=689


Finally, with regard to what @ Asherian Command said the other day, I am thinking of converting this chappy to be my Primarch Sigmar....actually...I can't find him on reaper...but it is the model here, or one very similar, found on Moltar's blog

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/319675.page#2088787

He's GW.

haha @ Miss Dee...yep I know that...any chance you know what where etc? Weety is always good at finding pickers of her GW stuff...just wondering if any one might have a idea who this guy is. He has a very weird hand shoulder pad.

Painted 'Bromden' tonight in 59 mins. Really pleased. Gave him a black eye as I messed up the right one. He is the Knifeman from the last chancers. I will post at some point tomorrow.

With another mini. Got to undercoa somemore soon. Running out.

Enjoy the weekend.

Mano