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Void__Dragon wrote:

Black Knight wrote:The eldar species xenos are vile cowards. They have no understanding of the greatest human virtue, courage. Their arrogance is also one of their greatest sins. They, like all xenos must be exterminated.

Not sure if serious...?

Humans are cowardly in 40k, hence the existence of Commissars. The average human is not as brave as an Eldar.

Hell, the Eldar race are arguably the bravest race in the galaxy, capable of feeling fear, having so much more to lose than a human, and having lost so much already. But they still fight.

Humans are ignorant, idiotic vermin, their only greater purpose in life is to be harvested, for the master. That will be made very apparent soon enough.

I love you platonically. frsrs.

Orks, because nothing is braver than driving a warbike off a mesa into a warlord titan while on fire, slaying the entire crew while on fire, and destroying it while on fire.

Eldar do fight wars well, but they are clearly on the brink of extinction, therefore there desire for war is somewhat foolish for such a intellectual race. The DE on the other hand are just as capable fighters and have a much more stable population, but their saidism and hedonism keeps them from truly being "brave" I think.

Humans I think are brave, for the guardsmen to go up against the terrors of the galazy requires alot and the pinnacle of humanity, space marines and grey knights (who may not technically be humans, but theyre the closest thing to it in the galaxy) which shows the strength of human dedication and spirit.

However for the races that are best at warfare, Tyranids of Orks would probably take the cake. They both are bred for it and thoroughly center their entire lives around it.

Asherian Command wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

KilroyKiljoy wrote:

Coolyo294 wrote:Tabletop stats =/= fluff.

KilroyKiljoy wrote:Fine, if we don't use fluff examples, let's use stats.

You need to get off my back, dude.

not really humans and super humans are braver than other races because they are fighting for their survival.

EVERYONE IS FIGHTING FOR SURVIVAL!!!

In all seriousness, regular people fighting daemons, xenos creatures and massive creatures of death they stand fight that is bravery right there, they are not indoctrinated they are humans that are militia men and they fight for humanity knowing they can keep fighting and they will be victorious or die trying.

PDF is militia. Guard is professional, if not particularly elite in anyway, they are at least vaguely competant. I would say an IG trooper is about 2/3 as well trained as a modern soldier.

Based on...what?
How well trained is a modern soldier? From what nation? What is modern? How well trained is the IG? Which IG?
I'd say that about 2/3s of statistics lack a factual basis for statistical comparison.

AustonT wrote:Based on...what?
How well trained is a modern soldier? From what nation? What is modern? How well trained is the IG? Which IG?
I'd say that about 2/3s of statistics lack a factual basis for statistical comparison.

Lacking a factual basis...just like saying the guard is a militia.

It was an estimate, donkey-cave.

EDIT: WTF? Donkey-Cave?

Void__Dragon wrote:

Black Knight wrote:The eldar species xenos are vile cowards. They have no understanding of the greatest human virtue, courage. Their arrogance is also one of their greatest sins. They, like all xenos must be exterminated.

Not sure if serious...?

Humans are cowardly in 40k, hence the existence of Commissars. The average human is not as brave as an Eldar.

Hell, the Eldar race are arguably the bravest race in the galaxy, capable of feeling fear, having so much more to lose than a human, and having lost so much already. But they still fight.

Humans are ignorant, idiotic vermin, their only greater purpose in life is to be harvested, for the master. That will be made very apparent soon enough.

Why do you question my Battle-Brother's seriousness? All of the aliens will be purged in the holy flames of destruction, and their kind shall fall. The Emperor ordains it so.




On a more serious note, the humans truly are the bravest. The Eldar are brave, yes, but not so brave as humans. They rarely engage in an all-out-battle, preferring to hide and control other races to do their bidding, eg. Orks. They have very few homeworlds, and they ive in their craftworlds; constantly moving vessels because they are too afraid to remain stationary. And then there is the arrogance. They always mock the humans for being somewhat lesser than they are, and highlight how awesome they are. They are the Ultramarines of the xenos races. And still they hide and run away if the battle is lost.

Sure they risk destroying themselves when in battle, but so do everyone else in the galaxy. The Eldar are the only ones who make a number from it. Yeah, they also risk their souls to be lost in the Warp and stuff. But so do Dark Eldar. They do not complain about it. They just accept the fact and fight.

And you don't see commissars with Space Marines, do you. Besides, they are only there to stand as an example, and keep up the morale. Only a portion of commissars uphold this by shooting the brains out of troopers. They are usually killed by friendly fire, "accidental" or not.

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:

Void__Dragon wrote:

Black Knight wrote:The eldar species xenos are vile cowards. They have no understanding of the greatest human virtue, courage. Their arrogance is also one of their greatest sins. They, like all xenos must be exterminated.

Not sure if serious...?

Humans are cowardly in 40k, hence the existence of Commissars. The average human is not as brave as an Eldar.

Hell, the Eldar race are arguably the bravest race in the galaxy, capable of feeling fear, having so much more to lose than a human, and having lost so much already. But they still fight.

Humans are ignorant, idiotic vermin, their only greater purpose in life is to be harvested, for the master. That will be made very apparent soon enough.

Why do you question my Battle-Brother's seriousness? All of the aliens will be purged in the holy flames of destruction, and their kind shall fall. The Emperor ordains it so.




On a more serious note, the humans truly are the bravest. The Eldar are brave, yes, but not so brave as humans. They rarely engage in an all-out-battle, preferring to hide and control other races to do their bidding, eg. Orks. They have very few homeworlds, and they ive in their craftworlds; constantly moving vessels because they are too afraid to remain stationary. And then there is the arrogance. They always mock the humans for being somewhat lesser than they are, and highlight how awesome they are. They are the Ultramarines of the xenos races. And still they hide and run away if the battle is lost.

Sure they risk destroying themselves when in battle, but so do everyone else in the galaxy. The Eldar are the only ones who make a number from it. Yeah, they also risk their souls to be lost in the Warp and stuff. But so do Dark Eldar. They do not complain about it. They just accept the fact and fight.

Since when does guerrilla warfare make you a coward? It makes you smart. The crimson fists rely on Guerrilla warfare now, does that make THEM cowards?

im2randomghgh wrote:

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:

Void__Dragon wrote:

Black Knight wrote:The eldar species xenos are vile cowards. They have no understanding of the greatest human virtue, courage. Their arrogance is also one of their greatest sins. They, like all xenos must be exterminated.

Not sure if serious...?

Humans are cowardly in 40k, hence the existence of Commissars. The average human is not as brave as an Eldar.

Hell, the Eldar race are arguably the bravest race in the galaxy, capable of feeling fear, having so much more to lose than a human, and having lost so much already. But they still fight.

Humans are ignorant, idiotic vermin, their only greater purpose in life is to be harvested, for the master. That will be made very apparent soon enough.

Why do you question my Battle-Brother's seriousness? All of the aliens will be purged in the holy flames of destruction, and their kind shall fall. The Emperor ordains it so.




On a more serious note, the humans truly are the bravest. The Eldar are brave, yes, but not so brave as humans. They rarely engage in an all-out-battle, preferring to hide and control other races to do their bidding, eg. Orks. They have very few homeworlds, and they ive in their craftworlds; constantly moving vessels because they are too afraid to remain stationary. And then there is the arrogance. They always mock the humans for being somewhat lesser than they are, and highlight how awesome they are. They are the Ultramarines of the xenos races. And still they hide and run away if the battle is lost.

Sure they risk destroying themselves when in battle, but so do everyone else in the galaxy. The Eldar are the only ones who make a number from it. Yeah, they also risk their souls to be lost in the Warp and stuff. But so do Dark Eldar. They do not complain about it. They just accept the fact and fight.

Since when does guerrilla warfare make you a coward? It makes you smart. The crimson fists rely on Guerrilla warfare now, does that make THEM cowards?

They rely on that because their numbers are 500 or less. Before you say that is also the case of the Eldar, it is not. They are actually quite numerous, and could fight like everyone else. Even the DE clone themselves. And I am not saying the humans are braver only because the Eldar prefer hit and run tactics.

Erm, no? Eldar can't fight like everyone else. They're a dying race, that's their most basic theme. They can't afford to take part in the same attrition warfare like the Imperium. There's a reason all Eldar citizens have to fight at some point, and there's a reason they fight in the shadows using precise applications of force.

iproxtaco wrote:Erm, no? Eldar can't fight like everyone else. They're a dying race, that's their most basic theme. They can't afford to take part in the same attrition warfare like the Imperium. There's a reason all Eldar citizens have to fight at some point, and there's a reason they fight in the shadows using precise applications of force.

It just makes sense.

They fight using STRATEGY unlike most other races who just go for the all-out highland charge.

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:Why do you question my Battle-Brother's seriousness? All of the aliens will be purged in the holy flames of destruction, and their kind shall fall. The Emperor ordains it so.

Your god is a corpse on a chair. My gods extinguished the stars on a whim.

On a more serious note, the humans truly are the bravest. The Eldar are brave, yes, but not so brave as humans. They rarely engage in an all-out-battle, preferring to hide and control other races to do their bidding, eg. Orks. They have very few homeworlds, and they ive in their craftworlds; constantly moving vessels because they are too afraid to remain stationary. And then there is the arrogance. They always mock the humans for being somewhat lesser than they are, and highlight how awesome they are. They are the Ultramarines of the xenos races. And still they hide and run away if the battle is lost.

I think you're confusing "being expendable" with "being brave." The Eldar as a race are not able to do battles of attrition like humanity, so they use more subtle, manipulative strategies, engaging in subterfuge and trying to always avoid losing Eldar lives. But when they have to, for instance when they defended their Maiden Worlds from Hive Fleet Kraken, they are every bit as capable as in a stand-up fight. They fear remaining stationary because a lone Craftworld makes an easy target for a Necron harvest fleet, or a Hive Fleet. They are arrogant, yes, but any more than the humans? Even as early as the Great Crusade, the humans believed in a Manifest Destiny, that by virtue of being so much superior to any other race in the galaxy they deserved to rule it, and the xenos deserved only death at worst, enslavement at best. Compared to the Eldar, who, according to Eldrad, only really distrust and dislike humanity because of their incredibly aggressive expansionist methods, their habit of taking what doesn't belong to them.

Sure they risk destroying themselves when in battle, but so do everyone else in the galaxy. The Eldar are the only ones who make a number from it. Yeah, they also risk their souls to be lost in the Warp and stuff. But so do Dark Eldar. They do not complain about it. They just accept the fact and fight.

The Eldar, if they die without their soul stone, suffer more than simply death. The Eldar style of warfare focuses on attaining victory with as little Eldar casualties as possible, that's not cowardly, that's intelligent. The Dark Eldar? The Dark Eldar fear death more than any other faction, which is part of the reason they do the horrible things they do, to stay death's hand a little longer. Also, the Dark Eldar don't "fight," if a Dark Eldar has a choice between raiding a heavily defended fortress world with a Space Marine chapter housed there, or a defenseless agri-world, they will always go for the defenseless agri-world. The Dark Eldar are petty, opportunistic raiders.

And you don't see commissars with Space Marines, do you. Besides, they are only there to stand as an example, and keep up the morale. Only a portion of commissars uphold this by shooting the brains out of troopers. They are usually killed by friendly fire, "accidental" or not.

Space Marines are technically human, but they are a miniscule fraction of humanity, and are obvious exceptions. The Commissars are morale officers that sometimes must uphold it by killing troops, yes. Notice how the Eldar don't need them.

They rarely engage in an all-out-battle, preferring to hide and control other races to do their bidding, eg. Orks.

Since when does guerrilla warfare make you a coward? It makes you smart.

I think you're confusing "being expendable" with "being brave."

It's kind of a grey area as far as I can see. There is a difference between bravery and stupidity, but it's hard to see a fine line to differentiate the two.

Void__Dragon wrote:
Your god is a corpse on a chair. My gods extinguished the stars on a whim.

Your God? Hm interesting... we will see how "godly" they will be in new codex
p.s. Emperor is not just a corpse like you think...

Brother Coa wrote:

Void__Dragon wrote:
Your god is a corpse on a chair. My gods extinguished the stars on a whim.

Your God? Hm interesting... we will see how "godly" they will be in new codex
p.s. Emperor is not just a corpse like you think...

Looks pretty corpse-y to me.

He's pretty much a psychic version of the Space Pope, only awesomer.

im2randomghgh wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

Void__Dragon wrote:
Your god is a corpse on a chair. My gods extinguished the stars on a whim.

Your God? Hm interesting... we will see how "godly" they will be in new codex
p.s. Emperor is not just a corpse like you think...

Looks pretty corpse-y to me.

He's pretty much a psychic version of the Space Pope, only awesomer.

He is still alive. you will be purged.

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

Void__Dragon wrote:
Your god is a corpse on a chair. My gods extinguished the stars on a whim.

Your God? Hm interesting... we will see how "godly" they will be in new codex
p.s. Emperor is not just a corpse like you think...

Looks pretty corpse-y to me.

He's pretty much a psychic version of the Space Pope, only awesomer.

He is still alive. you will be purged.

He's about as alive as a necron

Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooo.

Seriously, humans aren't the finest warriors and bravery is all relative anyway. Even Sphess Muhreens are infinitely inferior to big Tyranid beasties and experienced Eldar. Orks are probably the finest warriors, the entire race being a psychic weapon and each individual creature tuned for war. Bravery is pretty much impossible to measure, since we're talking about trillions of people in the IG with varying levels of cowardice. I would usually say Space Marines are such a tiny minority as to be irrelevent, but that gets me flames so instead I'll just say that firstly, their fear emotion has been dulled by the creation process, and bravery is all about conquering fear. Secondly, they're 7 feet tall and armoured like a tank so they're bound not to fear much. You could argue the other way and say they feel little fear and so are the bravest warriors ever, but that's what makes claims of 'bravest' so confusing- some people may think bravery is lack of fear, others think of it as the ability to conquer your fears and then we'd have a debate between two brick walls.

TrollPie wrote:Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooo.

Seriously, humans aren't the finest warriors and bravery is all relative anyway. Even Sphess Muhreens are infinitely inferior to big Tyranid beasties and experienced Eldar. Orks are probably the finest warriors, the entire race being a psychic weapon and each individual creature tuned for war. Bravery is pretty much impossible to measure, since we're talking about trillions of people in the IG with varying levels of cowardice. I would usually say Space Marines are such a tiny minority as to be irrelevent, but that gets me flames so instead I'll just say that firstly, their fear emotion has been dulled by the creation process, and bravery is all about conquering fear. Secondly, they're 7 feet tall and armoured like a tank so they're bound not to fear much. You could argue the other way and say they feel little fear and so are the bravest warriors ever, but that's what makes claims of 'bravest' so confusing- some people may think bravery is lack of fear, others think of it as the ability to conquer your fears and then we'd have a debate between two brick walls.

Your avatar is a chicken.

Saying they're seven feet tall might get you flames too. The description of their height varies immensely. Ranging from 2m (6'6") to 9'.

Brother Coa wrote:

Void__Dragon wrote:
Your god is a corpse on a chair. My gods extinguished the stars on a whim.

Your God? Hm interesting... we will see how "godly" they will be in new codex
p.s. Emperor is not just a corpse like you think...

Yes, we will.
And yes, he's a corpse, sitting in a chair, his mind is the only thing left, and it's ties to the mortal world grow ever weaker. We'll see how brave your Imperial Guard are when the Emperor is no more.

To add my own point, no, no they aren't. Your average Imperial Guard is not much more than your average man given a gun. They have some training, but that's near insignificant when fighting the likes of Orkz, and Chaos. There's a reason the Imperium relies on weight of numbers and masses of armour.

Void__Dragon wrote:

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:Why do you question my Battle-Brother's seriousness? All of the aliens will be purged in the holy flames of destruction, and their kind shall fall. The Emperor ordains it so.

Your god is a corpse on a chair. My gods extinguished the stars on a whim.

On a more serious note, the humans truly are the bravest. The Eldar are brave, yes, but not so brave as humans. They rarely engage in an all-out-battle, preferring to hide and control other races to do their bidding, eg. Orks. They have very few homeworlds, and they ive in their craftworlds; constantly moving vessels because they are too afraid to remain stationary. And then there is the arrogance. They always mock the humans for being somewhat lesser than they are, and highlight how awesome they are. They are the Ultramarines of the xenos races. And still they hide and run away if the battle is lost.

I think you're confusing "being expendable" with "being brave." The Eldar as a race are not able to do battles of attrition like humanity, so they use more subtle, manipulative strategies, engaging in subterfuge and trying to always avoid losing Eldar lives. But when they have to, for instance when they defended their Maiden Worlds from Hive Fleet Kraken, they are every bit as capable as in a stand-up fight. They fear remaining stationary because a lone Craftworld makes an easy target for a Necron harvest fleet, or a Hive Fleet. They are arrogant, yes, but any more than the humans? Even as early as the Great Crusade, the humans believed in a Manifest Destiny, that by virtue of being so much superior to any other race in the galaxy they deserved to rule it, and the xenos deserved only death at worst, enslavement at best. Compared to the Eldar, who, according to Eldrad, only really distrust and dislike humanity because of their incredibly aggressive expansionist methods, their habit of taking what doesn't belong to them.

Sure they risk destroying themselves when in battle, but so do everyone else in the galaxy. The Eldar are the only ones who make a number from it. Yeah, they also risk their souls to be lost in the Warp and stuff. But so do Dark Eldar. They do not complain about it. They just accept the fact and fight.

The Eldar, if they die without their soul stone, suffer more than simply death. The Eldar style of warfare focuses on attaining victory with as little Eldar casualties as possible, that's not cowardly, that's intelligent. The Dark Eldar? The Dark Eldar fear death more than any other faction, which is part of the reason they do the horrible things they do, to stay death's hand a little longer. Also, the Dark Eldar don't "fight," if a Dark Eldar has a choice between raiding a heavily defended fortress world with a Space Marine chapter housed there, or a defenseless agri-world, they will always go for the defenseless agri-world. The Dark Eldar are petty, opportunistic raiders.

And you don't see commissars with Space Marines, do you. Besides, they are only there to stand as an example, and keep up the morale. Only a portion of commissars uphold this by shooting the brains out of troopers. They are usually killed by friendly fire, "accidental" or not.

Space Marines are technically human, but they are a miniscule fraction of humanity, and are obvious exceptions. The Commissars are morale officers that sometimes must uphold it by killing troops, yes. Notice how the Eldar don't need them.

Lets see your god after Matt Ward has a word with him.

The Eldar are elitist , arrogant a-holes, just as xenophobic as the Imperium. They do not respect any other races, the regard even Tau as children who are inferior and stupid. Besides, Marines also try not to suffer heavy casualties during battles. By your logic, it means that they are even more brave, since they are not afraid to enter combat head on with very few numbers per strike force, when opponents like Eldar usually outnumber them. Both factions try to use tactics and minimize casualties. The Eldar are just the ones shying away from real combat.

The Eldar don't need commissars because they are too arrogant to be afraid. They think nothing can touch them. Also, they are few in number,and they choose the path of a warrior willingly. Humans usually have no choice, because their life sucks at their homeworld (eg. forced labor, endless factory shifts etc.) Still, they fight with valor, even if they have no choice and are sure to die. The Eldar step into the fray knowingly and willingly. Humans win the day even when they face things they have not even dared to dream about, ripping through their lines.

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:

Void__Dragon wrote:

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:Why do you question my Battle-Brother's seriousness? All of the aliens will be purged in the holy flames of destruction, and their kind shall fall. The Emperor ordains it so.

Your god is a corpse on a chair. My gods extinguished the stars on a whim.

On a more serious note, the humans truly are the bravest. The Eldar are brave, yes, but not so brave as humans. They rarely engage in an all-out-battle, preferring to hide and control other races to do their bidding, eg. Orks. They have very few homeworlds, and they ive in their craftworlds; constantly moving vessels because they are too afraid to remain stationary. And then there is the arrogance. They always mock the humans for being somewhat lesser than they are, and highlight how awesome they are. They are the Ultramarines of the xenos races. And still they hide and run away if the battle is lost.

I think you're confusing "being expendable" with "being brave." The Eldar as a race are not able to do battles of attrition like humanity, so they use more subtle, manipulative strategies, engaging in subterfuge and trying to always avoid losing Eldar lives. But when they have to, for instance when they defended their Maiden Worlds from Hive Fleet Kraken, they are every bit as capable as in a stand-up fight. They fear remaining stationary because a lone Craftworld makes an easy target for a Necron harvest fleet, or a Hive Fleet. They are arrogant, yes, but any more than the humans? Even as early as the Great Crusade, the humans believed in a Manifest Destiny, that by virtue of being so much superior to any other race in the galaxy they deserved to rule it, and the xenos deserved only death at worst, enslavement at best. Compared to the Eldar, who, according to Eldrad, only really distrust and dislike humanity because of their incredibly aggressive expansionist methods, their habit of taking what doesn't belong to them.

Sure they risk destroying themselves when in battle, but so do everyone else in the galaxy. The Eldar are the only ones who make a number from it. Yeah, they also risk their souls to be lost in the Warp and stuff. But so do Dark Eldar. They do not complain about it. They just accept the fact and fight.

The Eldar, if they die without their soul stone, suffer more than simply death. The Eldar style of warfare focuses on attaining victory with as little Eldar casualties as possible, that's not cowardly, that's intelligent. The Dark Eldar? The Dark Eldar fear death more than any other faction, which is part of the reason they do the horrible things they do, to stay death's hand a little longer. Also, the Dark Eldar don't "fight," if a Dark Eldar has a choice between raiding a heavily defended fortress world with a Space Marine chapter housed there, or a defenseless agri-world, they will always go for the defenseless agri-world. The Dark Eldar are petty, opportunistic raiders.

And you don't see commissars with Space Marines, do you. Besides, they are only there to stand as an example, and keep up the morale. Only a portion of commissars uphold this by shooting the brains out of troopers. They are usually killed by friendly fire, "accidental" or not.

Space Marines are technically human, but they are a miniscule fraction of humanity, and are obvious exceptions. The Commissars are morale officers that sometimes must uphold it by killing troops, yes. Notice how the Eldar don't need them.

Lets see your god after Matt Ward has a word with him.

The Eldar are elitist , arrogant a-holes, just as xenophobic as the Imperium. They do not respect any other races, the regard even Tau as children who are inferior and stupid. Besides, Marines also try not to suffer heavy casualties during battles. By your logic, it means that they are even more brave, since they are not afraid to enter combat head on with very few numbers per strike force, when opponents like Eldar usually outnumber them. Both factions try to use tactics and minimize casualties. The Eldar are just the ones shying away from real combat.

The Eldar don't need commissars because they are too arrogant to be afraid. They think nothing can touch them. Also, they are few in number,and they choose the path of a warrior willingly. Humans usually have no choice, because their life sucks at their homeworld (eg. forced labor, endless factory shifts etc.) Still, they fight with valor, even if they have no choice and are sure to die. The Eldar step into the fray knowingly and willingly. Humans win the day even when they face things they have not even dared to dream about, ripping through their lines.

-_- now you're just showing us that your knowledge of the Eldar is incomplete. "They think nothing can touch them"? Now that's just silly. That is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the truth.

The Eldar are elitist , arrogant a-holes, just as xenophobic as the Imperium. They do not respect any other races, the regard even Tau as children who are inferior and stupid.

To be fair, they also don't execute such childish and inferior races on sight, as the Imperium does.

The Eldar don't need commissars because they are too arrogant to be afraid. They think nothing can touch them.

That contradicts your last statement. They're too arrogant to not fight, but they shy away from fighting? No, they don't need commissars because they know what they're fighting for, and that it's pretty important that they succeed.

Humans win the day even when they face things they have not even dared to dream about, ripping through their lines.

And Eldar win the day risking their souls, instead of just their lives. Besides, part of the reason the humans win is because, if they don't, there's a scary guy in a coat waiting for them with a bolt pistol.

Ail-Shan wrote:

The Eldar are elitist , arrogant a-holes, just as xenophobic as the Imperium. They do not respect any other races, the regard even Tau as children who are inferior and stupid.

To be fair, they also don't execute such childish and inferior races on sight, as the Imperium does.

The Eldar don't need commissars because they are too arrogant to be afraid. They think nothing can touch them.

That contradicts your last statement. They're too arrogant to not fight, but they shy away from fighting? No, they don't need commissars because they know what they're fighting for, and that it's pretty important that they succeed.

Humans win the day even when they face things they have not even dared to dream about, ripping through their lines.

And Eldar win the day risking their souls, instead of just their lives. Besides, part of the reason the humans win is because, if they don't, there's a scary guy in a coat waiting for them with a bolt pistol.

Also, they don't win more than any other race. It's just that the vast majority of material is from the Humans point of view.

i think we are all missing the point at what "brave" means. people keep citing SM and CSM with "they shall know no fear" but thats a genetic/medical removal of fear not bravery.

to be brave there must be a component of fear or else it is a non factor.

in the case of nids im not entirely familiar with them but if they operate on a hive mind then the individual creatures are also incapable of fear and they just kinda roll with the hive mind and its controllers fears.

so in a sense SM cant be brave, and only creatures that can KNOW fear can overcome it and thud be called brave.