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**crudcakes**

Sounds good I will put them under russ.

**Formosa**

why does the greatest strategist (El'jonson) not have any rules that represent this?

**Deadshot**

He has other things going for him. Girlyman and Alpharius have only their strategy. We can't take that away.

**Durza**

Alpharius was a better strategist anyway.

**BlapBlapBlap**

Primarch Lion El'Johnson--- Pts 700 By deadshot

WS- 8 /BS- 6 /S- 6 /T- 6 /W- 5 /I- 6 /A- 4 /Ld- 10 /Sv- 2+/3++

Wargear

The Lion Blade- This is a master Crafted Power Weapon that gives +1 str. if you roll a 6 to wound with this Plasma infused sword, the opponent must reduce his Armour Save by 1 untill the end off the following Player turn. However, if a 1 to wound is rolled, Lion must take a wound with no armour saves allowed, as the massive flux of Plasma discharges in his face.
Plasma Blaster- this is a plasma weapon with the following profile.
Range- 24 /Str- 7 /AP- 2 /Type- Assault 2, Gets Hot!
Artificer Armour
The Hide of the Lion- Taken from the lion he killed on Caliban, the impenatrble hide gives him a 3++ save.

Special Rules
ATSKNF, IC, EW, Acute Senses, Furious Charge

Beast hunter- The Lion and any squad he has joined gain the Prefered Enemy (Beasts and Cavalry), USR.

The Lion and The Wolf- Such is the kinship between Leman Russ and The Lion, that you may include a single unit of Wolf Guard from Codex: Space Wolves, in your army.

So bad in so many ways... This is my edit:

Lion'el Johnson, Dark Angels Primarch:---------------------- 750pts

WS 8 - BS 7 - S 6 - T 5(7) - W 5 - I 6 - A 5 - Ld 10 - Sv 2+/3++

Wargear:

Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades

The Lion Sword: This is a Master-crafted Power Weapon that wounds on a 3+
Armour of Caliban: This grants a 2+ Armour save and a 3++ Invunerable save. It also adds 2 points onto his toughness.

Rules: Fearless, Furious Charge, Acute Senses, IC, Eternal Warrior

Rivalry: Lion'el is a bitter ally with the Space wolves, at best. If Lion'el fights alongside Leman Russ, both armies lose 2 points in leadership.

Retinue:

Captains of the Order:

WS 5 - BS 5 - S 4 - T 4 - W 2 - I 5 - A 2 - Ld 10 - Sv 2+/ 5++

Unit Composition: 5 Captains of the Order

Wargear: Bolt Pistol, Artificer Armour, Power Weapon,

Dark Mantle: This Grants the bearer a 5++ invunerable save

Rules: Fearless, Furious Chage, Accute Senses

Transport: Furious Vengance:

AV: F 14 - S 14 - R 14-------------BS 5

Wargear: Twin Linked Lascannon Sponsons, Multi-Melta,

Traitorbane: Traitorbane is a Str 7, AP 1, Rng 36", Heavy 5 Weapon.

This may seem a little similar, but I believe it's a marked improvement.

**crudcakes**

Does anyone else think that this is an improvement?

Personally I think that his str and t stats were two low to start with. They should be 6 and 5 respectivley.

**Durza**

Rivalry is a lot more fluffy, but I'd have it as them being unable to fight in the same CC or something. It's not a disadvantage to lose leadership when the entire army has ATSKNF anyway, and not liking your ally is no reason to run from your foe.

**BlapBlapBlap**

How about:

Rivalry: If Lion'el and Leman Russ are in the same team, any units from Codex: DA and Codex: SW have to roll a leadership test if they declare they will charge into the same CC. 2 situations will arise from this: If they both pass or the amount of fails are equal, they carry on charging into combat. If one or more are failed, however, you have to count the failed tests. The side which has the most failed tests cannot charge. If you fail all tests, the units will charge, but for that turn they lose ATSKNF. You have to roll for each turn in combat with 2 units from different codexes, and if a unit fails, they must break from the combat, as if they used Hit and Run

Better? Or an army wrecker?

**crudcakes**

I think this one is better what does everyone else say?

**Lord Magnus**

Or you could just say that characters from each dex can never join a unit from another, and they do not benefit from each others banners, psychic powers, other buffs ETC..

**Deadshot**

I said that, but for some reason it didn't post.

Crudcakes, could I ask you to leave the other one up, for those that want it?

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Univeral upgrades

Exterminatus.

This may be used like an Orbital Bombardment.

+75pts Fusion Torpedo

Str 10
AP 1
7" blast, rolls Str 10+3D6 vs Vehicles. 4D6 under Central Hole.

+100pts Virus Bomb

Str 8
AP 2
5" blast

Models under the Template must pass a T test at -1 T, and if they fail they must count their Sv as - for the game. Vehicles reduce their AV by 1 for each roll of 4+ on 6D6. They are also poisoned 3+, but may reroll all failed.

NEW!!!

Cyclone Torpedo +150pts

Str D
AP 1
10" Blast

**Lord Magnus**

Aren't virus bombs in fluff devastating? They usually seem to just wreck stuff, as you portray them I don't see them as even being fatal...

**nurglerulesslaneshdrools**

Magus the red cost 870

WS 6 - BS 7 - S 7 - T 6 - W 4 - I 5 - A 4 - Ld 10 - Sv 2+/2+

Special rules etherial presence, might, lord of the warp, all knowing

Eterial presence: this gives magus a 2+ invun and makes all his cc attacks act like power and force weapons

might: this increases the LD of his army by 1 max 10 and minuses the LD of the oposite army

lord of the warp magnus can do up to 10 phycic powers from any imperial codex so he can do hammer hand or smite

magnus steals inisitive on a 4+ and in apoc the enemy must inform Maguses team of all strategic assets at the start of the game

**Durza**

Up to ... ten? Really?

**Deadshot**

Lord Magnus wrote:Aren't virus bombs in fluff devastating? They usually seem to just wreck stuff, as you portray them I don't see them as even being fatal...

Fixed it.

**crudcakes**

Sorry i have not been able to post for a while but i like the universal upgrades.

just to recap do you want me to keep the rivalry like this?

The Lion and The Wolf- Such is the kinship between Leman Russ and The Lion, that you may include a single unit of Wolf Guard from Codex: Space Wolves, in your army.
or characters from each dex can never join a unit from another, and they do not benefit from each others banners, psychic powers, other buffs ETC..

**Deadshot**

I want tyou to keep my version, the first one, the way it is, and do Blap's Version seperately, like you have done with Corax and Mortarion, so people can choose which one they want.

And yes I do want the single unit of wolf Guard. Could you also add in these rules.

"....a single unit of Wolf Guard from Codex: SW in your army as an Elites choice. They may not split up to lead other units in this case. These Wolf Guard do not benefit from anything the DA have, such as Banners and Special Rules granting extra atacks, and vice versa. No DA IC may join the Wolf Guard unit, and they may embark on a DA vehicle."

**crudcakes**

Got it anything else?

**Deadshot**

No, thank you. That's it.

**Jinkunn nightblade**

With this kind of thing, I would love to make stats for people like the Eldar's solataire, of maybe the Harlequin god Ceogorach, any ideas, anyone o3o?

**White Ninja**

Why does the Lion not have his helm. That piece of wargear is still in the Dark angels codex. Any squad he joins should have a 4++ because of it.