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purplefood wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:

purplefood wrote:Give the lowest one T3 and a 4++ and need to activate it with a power.
The middle one T3 and a 3++ and also needs to activate it with a power.
The highest one gets T2 and a 2++ but doesn't need to activate it with a power.

Et warrior for highest. Bolter insta-kill is humiliating.
But yeah, sure!

Maybe give him the option to buy an upgrade, some kind of life support module or similar that gives him EW.
Price it appropriately maybe... 25 points? 30 tops... and only available to him.

Hold on.
Do you mind if I PM you some of the units?
I've done a couple so far.

I'd suggest posting them in Proposed Rules in the 40k section instead.

purplefood wrote:I'd suggest posting them in Proposed Rules in the 40k section instead.

OK.
I'll put them up in PDF format.
Actually, I'd rather keep them confidential if that's ok with you. Last time I did that...
But at least we have:
a. A believable fluff
b. A semi-solid plan for an army.
I'm still doing formatting for the entire codex. Just trying to sort out my jumbled mess of paragraphs and such. I have a lot of empty spaces as well; they're for pictures and additional background. You know where you get those small boxes with odd font in them? And they've got either additional info or battle records or just random funny stuff (as is the case with the ork codex)? That's what I mean. I've also tried to use the authentic codex title font. Apparently it's Caslon Antique (Haha, got you there GW! Now I know your secrets!).

The Lynx are the most mysterious and secretive of all the races discovered by the Imperium so far. They resemble furry humanoids, with reflective eyes, pointed ears and a long, prehensile tail. They are lithe and fragile beings, but psychic power emanates from each Lynx with such intensity that it can cause lesser beings to be drive insane. Though for all this power, they are a cursed race.

Lynx are powerful psykers, able to manipulate the material universe to their whim with a simple mental stimulus. Though this psychic power is as much a hindrance as a help. Due to the massive amounts of energy a Lynx consumes form their own metabolism to be able to use their powers, a Lynx deprived of energy which they drain from their sacred crystals will eventually wither and die. Though this is dangerous enough in its own right, the power itself is sometimes too much to handle. Those who show even a momentary lapse in concentration will be slain mercilessly by their own power in horrific and gory ways. Yet it is not just the psyker that suffers; the psychic turbulence is an extreme danger to his or her companions. The disruption created by the overload of power causes a feedback loop in nearby Lynx, inflicting extreme pain and loss of consciousness, if not death.

Psychic tendencies aside, the Lynx have a array of technology that even the Magi of Mars would be jealous of.

I've got this so far. I'm struggling with the technology bit; could anyone help flesh that out? Tau have helped contribute to it, but most of it is the Lynx's own work. Crystals are commonplace in Lynx weapons, armour and jewellery. Lynx have Plasma tech, much like the IoMs. In fact...
Exactly like the IoMs. Just with a few aesthetic differences. Before anyone asks why, they found blueprints for plasma weaponry in their sector, including the template for the Leman Russ Executioner tank. Naturally, they don't use it. The tank design. They don't have the materials the Imperium used to make it. The plasma weaponry? That they can make.

That doesn't sound...too bad. The plasma weapon thing though, just seems a little like you are picking the weapons you like for your army.

'Well I've thought up my xenos race, but hmmm, I like plasma technology, so I'll give it to them.'

Plasma in itself isn't too bad, as I think eldar have it, but they at least use it in a more advanced way, not just clones of Imperial stuff.

TheRobotLol wrote:That doesn't sound...too bad. The plasma weapon thing though, just seems a little like you are picking the weapons you like for your army.

'Well I've thought up my xenos race, but hmmm, I like plasma technology, so I'll give it to them.'

Plasma in itself isn't too bad, as I think eldar have it, but they at least use it in a more advanced way, not just clones of Imperial stuff.

I do like plasma tech, but i's not standard equipment. It's still rare within the Lynx race. Most of them have proton cutters or Lancers. Proton cutters fire either a single shot or a concentrated beam. Lancers simply unleash a volley of razor sharp crystals that punch straight through carapace armour as if it wasn't even there. Then it starts sucking the life out of whatever it's stuck in, provided it hasn't gone all the way through.
Plasma tech, I just liked the Imperial design thing, and it'll be much easier to make the model prototypes. We've (me and my friends) have tried some kit-bashing, but it didn't turn out too well. The face was't right. I tried to replicate my profile pic, cause that's what they look like.
And thanks. I appreciate the comment.

Mynameisalie wrote:The Lynx are the most mysterious and secretive of all the races discovered by the Imperium so far. They resemble furry humanoids, with reflective eyes, pointed ears and a long, prehensile tail. They are lithe and fragile beings, but psychic power emanates from each Lynx with such intensity that it can cause lesser beings to be drive insane. Though for all this power, they are a cursed race.

Lynx are powerful psykers, able to manipulate the material universe to their whim with a simple mental stimulus. Though this psychic power is as much a hindrance as a help. Due to the massive amounts of energy a Lynx consumes form their own metabolism to be able to use their powers, a Lynx deprived of energy which they drain from their sacred crystals will eventually wither and die. Though this is dangerous enough in its own right, the power itself is sometimes too much to handle. Those who show even a momentary lapse in concentration will be slain mercilessly by their own power in horrific and gory ways. Yet it is not just the psyker that suffers; the psychic turbulence is an extreme danger to his or her companions. The disruption created by the overload of power causes a feedback loop in nearby Lynx, inflicting extreme pain and loss of consciousness, if not death.

Psychic tendencies aside, the Lynx have a array of technology that even the Magi of Mars would be jealous of.

I've got this so far. I'm struggling with the technology bit; could anyone help flesh that out? Tau have helped contribute to it, but most of it is the Lynx's own work. Crystals are commonplace in Lynx weapons, armour and jewellery. Lynx have Plasma tech, much like the IoMs. In fact...
Exactly like the IoMs. Just with a few aesthetic differences. Before anyone asks why, they found blueprints for plasma weaponry in their sector, including the template for the Leman Russ Executioner tank. Naturally, they don't use it. The tank design. They don't have the materials the Imperium used to make it. The plasma weaponry? That they can make.

"My suetastic species is so super awesome ( made extra awesome by the fact that they could, just like any other psyker in existance, die in horrific ways) that they not only have psychic powers that make your average Zoanthrope look like a blunt, no, their technology is also extra awesome ( with pink sprinkles ). Oh, and they are a cursed race, for extra angst"
Ah well, perhaps the Enslavers are interested.

I... wasn't going to mention the Enslavers. I kinda thought that, by this point, the entire race was just one big Enslaver colony.

KingDeath wrote:

Mynameisalie wrote:The Lynx are the most mysterious and secretive of all the races discovered by the Imperium so far. They resemble furry humanoids, with reflective eyes, pointed ears and a long, prehensile tail. They are lithe and fragile beings, but psychic power emanates from each Lynx with such intensity that it can cause lesser beings to be drive insane. Though for all this power, they are a cursed race.

Lynx are powerful psykers, able to manipulate the material universe to their whim with a simple mental stimulus. Though this psychic power is as much a hindrance as a help. Due to the massive amounts of energy a Lynx consumes form their own metabolism to be able to use their powers, a Lynx deprived of energy which they drain from their sacred crystals will eventually wither and die. Though this is dangerous enough in its own right, the power itself is sometimes too much to handle. Those who show even a momentary lapse in concentration will be slain mercilessly by their own power in horrific and gory ways. Yet it is not just the psyker that suffers; the psychic turbulence is an extreme danger to his or her companions. The disruption created by the overload of power causes a feedback loop in nearby Lynx, inflicting extreme pain and loss of consciousness, if not death.

Psychic tendencies aside, the Lynx have a array of technology that even the Magi of Mars would be jealous of.

I've got this so far. I'm struggling with the technology bit; could anyone help flesh that out? Tau have helped contribute to it, but most of it is the Lynx's own work. Crystals are commonplace in Lynx weapons, armour and jewellery. Lynx have Plasma tech, much like the IoMs. In fact...
Exactly like the IoMs. Just with a few aesthetic differences. Before anyone asks why, they found blueprints for plasma weaponry in their sector, including the template for the Leman Russ Executioner tank. Naturally, they don't use it. The tank design. They don't have the materials the Imperium used to make it. The plasma weaponry? That they can make.

"My suetastic species is so super awesome ( made extra awesome by the fact that they could, just like any other psyker in existance, die in horrific ways) that they not only have psychic powers that make your average Zoanthrope look like a blunt, no, their technology is also extra awesome ( with pink sprinkles ). Oh, and they are a cursed race, for extra angst"
Ah well, perhaps the Enslavers are interested.

There is just no pleasing some people.

Psienesis wrote:I... wasn't going to mention the Enslavers. I kinda thought that, by this point, the entire race was just one big Enslaver colony.

Which are whom? I have no idea who or what those guys are.

Yes, their is no pleasing people who expect better from such a project instead of a poor Mary Sue race, but no, they can't give criticism to an obviously failing project.

Mynameisalie wrote:

Psienesis wrote:I... wasn't going to mention the Enslavers. I kinda thought that, by this point, the entire race was just one big Enslaver colony.

Which are whom? I have no idea who or what those guys are.

They are a race of parasites that originate in the warp...
They inhabit an untrained (or in some cases a trained but inattentive psyker) psyker and use them to create a warp portal that allows more and more Enslavers through who infest more and more people...
An Enslaver infestation is next to impossible to get rid of bar an exterminatus...

I just dearly hope the OP hasn't thought up some super-dupa-bestest exterminatus to counter them...

Or are they buddies/immune...?

TheRobotLol wrote:I just dearly hope the OP hasn't thought up some super-dupa-bestest exterminatus to counter them...

Or are they buddies/immune...?

i'm assuming that the planet will shoot at them.

i thought about mentioning the Enslavers during the first thread, but i wasn't sure if they were still a thing. wouldn't a race of such volatile psykers cause another Enslaver Plague?

Drakmord wrote:

TheRobotLol wrote:I just dearly hope the OP hasn't thought up some super-dupa-bestest exterminatus to counter them...

Or are they buddies/immune...?

i'm assuming that the planet will shoot at them.

i thought about mentioning the Enslavers during the first thread, but i wasn't sure if they were still a thing. wouldn't a race of such volatile psykers cause another Enslaver Plague?

From what I've heard, it sounds rather likely.

They're still a thing but they rarely appear in the Imperium due to the controls on psykers...
Still every now and again one appears and the Inquisition races to try and prevent the infestation spreading...

Yeah, but from what the OP has said, if I haven't missed something, the psykers for the race don't sem to be that well controlled, so even one enslaver would likely be very, very bad for them.

One enslaver would open a portal to bring in more and eventually the entire race would be infested...
Basically they should have been dead a long time ago.
Being a psyker in 40k is a definite negative unless you have some way to control your powers.

Something this race seems to lack.

As you said, the enslavers should of enslaved/killed all of the race by this point.

No, some of them occasioanlly lapse out, then they die. Or, as you said, an Enslaver could infect them, if they don't die first. No, I haven't thought of a way of either exterminating them or making the Lynx immune. Nearly all Lynx are trained in the use of their powers, or at least how to stop them from blowing their heads off by the age of 13.
You'd think that they've have learned how to keep their powers in check if it causes daily havoc if left alone.
Regarding the Zoanthrope thing, they can't focus their power to that extent. If they did, the entire race would proably suffer a psychic backlash so strong that they would momentarily shine brighter than the Astronomican itself. Every daemon within 2000 light years would flock to that. Then they'd all die. In a rather nasty way.
Imagine a planet soaked in blood, bones and just general gore, with daemons feasting on most of it.
Not a nice picture, is it?

It's the picture of many places in the Imperium.
Hardly unique and i doubt anyone would particularly care about from those who are already dead...

It's still not a nice picture.

It is for my Khorne daemon list..

TheRobotLol wrote:It is for my Khorne daemon list..

Good thing to aim for if you have Khorne daemons.

Or if you have a bloodpact army

Going back a few steps...

Your standard trooper rifle should be patterned after something already appearing in the game. Make its stat-line equivalent to, say, the standard Tau pulserifle or Eldar shuriken gun or even the Necron Gauss Flayer. However it works, though, can be whatever fluff you want to write. Maybe it shoots magnetically-charged crystalline shards wrapped in a shroud of plasma. Maybe it focuses the psychic will of its wielder into a telekinetic bolt (call it a Thu'um gun... no, don't... my name is a killing word). Doesn't matter, the bit about the standard rifle punching through carapace armor like tissue has got to go. No one's standard weapons do that, not without upgrades and points invested.

The dread-killy guns that *do* tear through carapace should be reserved for a heavy-weapons type unit, restricted to one in a squad, or be wargear available to a specific, high-points unit, IC or vehicle.

TheRobotLol wrote:It is for my Khorne daemon list..

Very true.

Psienesis wrote:Going back a few steps...

Your standard trooper rifle should be patterned after something already appearing in the game. Make its stat-line equivalent to, say, the standard Tau pulserifle or Eldar shuriken gun or even the Necron Gauss Flayer. However it works, though, can be whatever fluff you want to write. Maybe it shoots magnetically-charged crystalline shards wrapped in a shroud of plasma. Maybe it focuses the psychic will of its wielder into a telekinetic bolt (call it a Thu'um gun... no, don't... my name is a killing word). Doesn't matter, the bit about the standard rifle punching through carapace armor like tissue has got to go. No one's standard weapons do that, not without upgrades and points invested.

The dread-killy guns that *do* tear through carapace should be reserved for a heavy-weapons type unit, restricted to one in a squad, or be wargear available to a specific, high-points unit, IC or vehicle.

The basic one is the Lancer. It was meant to fire explosive crystal, then I realised halfway through making it that that was just a bolter. Lancers now fire long shards of crystal at hypervelocity, punching straight through most objects. However, the lack of explosive power reduces the effectiveness on vehicles by -1.
Base stat line for basic troop choice: (20pts)
Ws: 4
Bs: 4
S: 3
T: 3
W: 1
I: 4
A: 1
Ld: 8/9
Sv: (Armour) 4+ (invulnerable) 4+
Basic rifle: Lancer
Rng S AP Type
18" 4 4 Rapid Fire
That's it. You think that's OP for the points cost?
Oh, what I did was I took the standard bolter, cause SM are the average race, neatly balanced between horde and elite, and messed around with the stats, keeping them close to the true values and giving them a look and name of their own. Let's face it; that's what happened to every other standard race weapon.

Undercosted i'd say...

purplefood wrote:Undercosted i'd say...

What do you suggest? I'm not too good at costing.
And I've just uploaded the current codex (still not finished but corrected). If anyone wants to see it, let me know and I'll either PM it to you or It'll go up in the Proposed Rules section.