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Thats ain airbrush effect Matt, I think.

Matt.Kingsley wrote:Just wondering, could you post a tutorial on how to do that glow?!

M.K

wolfshadow is correct in that the glow is airbrushed. Unfortunately, there's not much of a tutorial writeup that I can do for this. It's just airbrushed enchanted blue, ice blue and white applied in that order with the airbrush.

I know you get annoyed when asked, but it isn't as simple as that. The areas you are spraying step by step, the distance you hold the airbrush at, the angle, whether you use masking or not all make a huge difference to the result.

We all just love your fantastic work, and the speed with which you put it out! Even a few stage by stage shots as you switch airbrush colors and what they are as you do them would be hugely beneficial for a lot of people I'm sure. The fact is, not many can get the results you are getting, so you MUST be doing something a little differently or better!

Oh, and still enjoying your continued awesomeness btw!

MajorTom11 wrote: I know you get annoyed when asked, but it isn't as simple as that. The areas you are spraying step by step, the distance you hold the airbrush at, the angle, whether you use masking or not all make a huge difference to the result.

We all just love your fantastic work, and the speed with which you put it out! Even a few stage by stage shots as you switch airbrush colors and what they are as you do them would be hugely beneficial for a lot of people I'm sure. The fact is, not many can get the results you are getting, so you MUST be doing something a little differently or better!

Oh, and still enjoying your continued awesomeness btw!

Heh, no worries Tom and thanks. The problem is what you describe can't really be photographed in a way that will convey all the proper info. Best thing to do is watching instructional videos which unfortunately, due to my lack of access to a vid cam, I cannot make. For anyone wanting to learn how to airbrush, I recommend them check out Les's youtube videos under his name 'awesomepaintjob'.

The posting your army Eggroll is the only reason I joined Dakka. AMAZING! AMAZING! AMAZING! I want to burn all my models now and start fresh with yours.

I've been a BA player for years and would love to use your models on the field.

Are you planning on entering any painting competitions with these?

Also if you plan to sell them, I get first dibbs.

Gundor wrote:The posting your army Eggroll is the only reason I joined Dakka. AMAZING! AMAZING! AMAZING! I want to burn all my models now and start fresh with yours.

I've been a BA player for years and would love to use your models on the field.

Are you planning on entering any painting competitions with these?

Also if you plan to sell them, I get first dibbs.

Thanks Gundor! At the moment, all these models are planned for use in my display case and nothing else. I actually don't know how to play the game and don't know anyone else that plays. Maybe once I finish more models later this year, I'll get myself into a shop for a demo game. I've entered my shooty dreadnought into a competition last year and it placed first. Otherwise I don't have any plans to enter anything else.

Ah we are in the same boat! Just a hobbyist... It's amazing you'd think we would focus on individual models, but I can't help but want to see an army lol.

I hear ya for the trouble involved in doing a tutorial btw, it would be best shown in video form. I have only used the airbrush once so far, and ended up doing zenithal on instinct, but something that stopped me from going back and messing around with it more is how long it takes to switch paint colors. I am so used to the brush and digital taking 10-15 mins to completely clean out the airbrush and load a new paint in is really awkward for me right now. I also have no idea besides conceptually on how to mask something properly, especially something as small as a mini. I have thought about using blue-tac and clay shapers to create an effective mask, but I can't help thinking there must be an easier way.

What's your background out of curiosity? How did you get started on these and did you have experience in art or model making before?

MajorTom11 wrote:Ah we are in the same boat! Just a hobbyist... It's amazing you'd think we would focus on individual models, but I can't help but want to see an army lol.

I hear ya for the trouble involved in doing a tutorial btw, it would be best shown in video form. I have only used the airbrush once so far, and ended up doing zenithal on instinct, but something that stopped me from going back and messing around with it more is how long it takes to switch paint colors. I am so used to the brush and digital taking 10-15 mins to completely clean out the airbrush and load a new paint in is really awkward for me right now. I also have no idea besides conceptually on how to mask something properly, especially something as small as a mini. I have thought about using blue-tac and clay shapers to create an effective mask, but I can't help thinking there must be an easier way.

What's your background out of curiosity? How did you get started on these and did you have experience in art or model making before?

I used to focus on doing just individual models but I loved the look of the new blood angels so much I just had to do a whole army. They also look amazing when you see them as a whole.

I actually don't mask my infantry models when painting. With marines, the armor panels are large enough so that they aren't that susceptible to overspray. If there are any overspray, they're covered up when I go over the details by hand afterwards. Colour changing is a pain with the airbrush though I usually only use 2-3 colours in one painting session. I find with the gravity feed, top cup, I can blow out all the remaining paint, fill in airbrush cleaner, blow it out and load in new paint in about 2-3 minutes. I don't do a full teardown and cleaning of the airbrush until my whole painting session is done. I also prime my BA with a red primer so the main basecoat is already done for me before I start airbrushing. I usually just hit the units with highlights and shadows on the airbrush and everything is pretty much done. For my tanks, I do use regular painter masking tape you get at the hardware store though recently, I've been lazy and have been doing it all freehand with no masking as well...I don't notice a huge difference in the end result.

My background is actually not related to art at all as I have a computer engineering degree and currently work full time as a programmer. Painting is something I picked up about 2 years ago as I've always loved the miniatures in the GW display cases as a kid but could never afford to buy them. You can say I'm making up for lost time from my childhood My first models I painted were some sniper scouts with paint straight from the pot. They were pretty bad and they sit boxed up in my closet now. Never had any experience with painting or model making before this and everything I've learned is from practice and reading/watching tutorials. Hoping to get into sculpting sometime in the future...after I'm done painting my BA army!

That's awesome info. I checked out Lburseleys blood raven tutorial, half an hour but man it was worth it. Thanks for the point, I had seen his stuff before, but last time I looked he was showing a tank, not a minis themselves.

I found his silly putty masking quite effective lol, also the fact he lists every product he uses on screen as he works was a nice touch too.

Still, you get better results than he does i.m.o! Anyways, all very interesting and informative. And, for someone without art background and on his first army, this is NUTS... congrats man, it's just all the more impressive now

One thing i do have to ask... (not sure if its been asked already) what air brush do you use/recommend?

MajorTom11 wrote:That's awesome info. I checked out Lburseleys blood raven tutorial, half an hour but man it was worth it. Thanks for the point, I had seen his stuff before, but last time I looked he was showing a tank, not a minis themselves.

I found his silly putty masking quite effective lol, also the fact he lists every product he uses on screen as he works was a nice touch too.

Still, you get better results than he does i.m.o! Anyways, all very interesting and informative. And, for someone without art background and on his first army, this is NUTS... congrats man, it's just all the more impressive now

Thanks Tom. Les is a great painter though I think he scales back most of his youtube videos so they don't take *too* long and are easily followed. Using putty for masking is something I've always wanted to avoid since I feel it takes too long to apply and since I'm doing a large army, I wanted to find the most efficient way of doing things with the quickest turnaround time.

Gibbsey wrote:One thing i do have to ask... (not sure if its been asked already) what air brush do you use/recommend?

No worries. I use an Iwata Revolution BR airbrush. I think the nozzle size is 0.3mm and it's a dual action gravity feed airbrush. I picked it up for around 100 bucks Canadian. It's apart of Iwata's entry level airbrush line and it's served me well so far and I have no complaints.

Eggroll wrote:

Gibbsey wrote:One thing i do have to ask... (not sure if its been asked already) what air brush do you use/recommend?

No worries. I use an Iwata Revolution BR airbrush. I think the nozzle size is 0.3mm and it's a dual action gravity feed airbrush. I picked it up for around 100 bucks Canadian. It's apart of Iwata's entry level airbrush line and it's served me well so far and I have no complaints.

Great, Thanks!

Any chance you are going to experiment with some Zenital Highlighting in the future? I get my airbrush in 2 days (Have never used one before) but I went out and got the same colors and I plan on trying your color scheme with Jes's idea's on Zenital. Think it should result in some great stuff. Then again never airbrushing ill probably just ruin 200 dollars worth of mini's.

Pyronick wrote:Any chance you are going to experiment with some Zenital Highlighting in the future? I get my airbrush in 2 days (Have never used one before) but I went out and got the same colors and I plan on trying your color scheme with Jes's idea's on Zenital. Think it should result in some great stuff. Then again never airbrushing ill probably just ruin 200 dollars worth of mini's.

Actually I do use a form of zenithal lighting when I paint my current minis with the airbrush as there is a transition from lightest at the top of the figure to darkest at the bottom. I think the zenithal highlighting you're referring to is just doing a general spray of the mini from above? I've seen it done using just black and white primer to get a basecoat that will show where the light should hit. I find doing it with an airbrush isn't as efficient as the airbrush has a lot more control and doing a general spray from the top causes tons of overspray on other areas of the model which means there's more cleanup work to be done by hand afterwards.

Once you get your airbrush, practice on just plain sheets of paper so you get used to controlling the air and paint flow. Check out some general videos on youtube that will teach you how to do "dagger strokes" which aren't necessary for mini painting but will allow you to increase your control skills. Hope that helps

Have you found it easier to shade then highlight? Or Highlight then shade? Which gives better results? This goes for tanks and infantry alike. Thanks!

OK.

First off - wow! Stunning stuff in here!

Now, the questions!

1) What compressor are you using?

2) How did you paint the Death Company?

I'm about to start painting a lot of Black Power Armored marines (Raven Guard) and I'd love to achieve something close to what you've done!

Again, outstanding work!

Pyronick wrote:Have you found it easier to shade then highlight? Or Highlight then shade? Which gives better results? This goes for tanks and infantry alike. Thanks!

I do my shade first, then highlight though the reverse would work just as well. It's just a matter of personal preference. I do this for both my tanks and infantry.

Alpharius wrote:OK.

First off - wow! Stunning stuff in here!

Now, the questions!

1) What compressor are you using?

2) How did you paint the Death Company?

I'm about to start painting a lot of Black Power Armored marines (Raven Guard) and I'd love to achieve something close to what you've done!

Again, outstanding work!

Thanks! The compressor I use is a hardware compressor I got at the hardware store...Campbell Hausfeld 3 gallon compressor. I wouldn't recommend it and if I had to spend the money again, I'd pay more for a quieter compressor actually designed for the airbrush. For my death company, they're just black primer with airbrush highlights of black/spacewovles grey in a 50/50 mix. Rest of the details were picked out by hand.


Just posting a quick update of a pic of my assault squad. Just finished doing the OSL for the power weapons. Still need to clean them up by hand, dry brush the base and do the banner for the sergeant before I spray varnish them. Oh yeah, also need to finish their heads as well

I know I sign on every time you post something to say 'awesome'... but... awesome!!

Because of you I signed up for an airbrushing class... I have the same compressor too ironically, so I can only assume you are not working inside??? not in living areas anyways lol...

When you work, do you only have one airbrush, or multiples? I have heard from my teacher that getting 2 or 3 more increases your working speed exponentially, lets you clean up and correct rapidly and leaves you with literally faster, better results. I thought he was trying to oversell me at his store, then I saw his kit and demo... sick!

That airbrush effect is awesome. I'm going to use that for my warlock blades when it comes to time.

Wow. Just read through all 8 pages. Glorious stuff - and fast too!

This is awesome stuff - really really showcases the potential of an airbrush for miniature work. Both in speed and quality. I'm very excited and inspired and want to try a lot of different things soonish. I've had real trouble finding a suitable place to do my Airbrushing, but am now in a position to solve it.

Your LR is my fave. The metal chipping, something which I've personally grown totally ou of, really works greatly here.

Top notch work. Thanks for sharing!

that glow is outregously awesome! wow, its just amazing.

Wow! Your OSL technique is perfect!

Btw eggs, a compliment from Misgula is like James Cameron or David Fincher telling you 'Your movie was cool' in the mini world lol. You are probably going to be single handedly responsible for selling several k worth of airbrush equipment, you should get sponsored lol!

MajorTom11 wrote:I know I sign on every time you post something to say 'awesome'... but... awesome!!

Because of you I signed up for an airbrushing class... I have the same compressor too ironically, so I can only assume you are not working inside??? not in living areas anyways lol...

When you work, do you only have one airbrush, or multiples? I have heard from my teacher that getting 2 or 3 more increases your working speed exponentially, lets you clean up and correct rapidly and leaves you with literally faster, better results. I thought he was trying to oversell me at his store, then I saw his kit and demo... sick!

Thanks Tom! I've been checking out your WIP blog too and David Bowie would be proud! About the compressor, it's horrible. I already had one fail on me, the air regulator didn't work anymore and had it recently replaced. I also find it's not very accurate so I bought another air regulator with finer control at lower PSI's. I only have one airbrush and don't plan on getting anymore. I try and wait till I have to do a whole batch of models before starting to airbrush which helps the efficiency. Also, I've gotten used to changing colours so that a colour change takes me about 1-2 minutes. What kind of classes are you taking? I think Mathieu Fontaine is in your neck of the woods. I learned how to airbrush by watching his video on airbrushing the dreadnought. I do all my airbrushing inside in my apartment. I try not to turn it on after 10pm and with the 3 gallon tank, it lasts me for a full painting session. I have to give my gf prior warning though before I charge it up so she can hide in the bedroom or put in ear plugs.

severedblue wrote:That airbrush effect is awesome. I'm going to use that for my warlock blades when it comes to time.

Thanks and be sure to post it once it's done.

Arakasi wrote:Wow. Just read through all 8 pages. Glorious stuff - and fast too!

Thanks Arakasi.

migsula wrote:This is awesome stuff - really really showcases the potential of an airbrush for miniature work. Both in speed and quality. I'm very excited and inspired and want to try a lot of different things soonish. I've had real trouble finding a suitable place to do my Airbrushing, but am now in a position to solve it.

Your LR is my fave. The metal chipping, something which I've personally grown totally ou of, really works greatly here.

Top notch work. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks mig, love your work as well especially the Eisenhorn diorama.

Sageheart wrote:that glow is outregously awesome! wow, its just amazing.

Thanks!

Hyenajoe wrote:Wow! Your OSL technique is perfect!

Thanks!

MajorTom11 wrote:Btw eggs, a compliment from Misgula is like James Cameron or David Fincher telling you 'Your movie was cool' in the mini world lol. You are probably going to be single handedly responsible for selling several k worth of airbrush equipment, you should get sponsored lol!

Yup I know! I need to progress from airbrushing plastic army men to naked female bodies! I can airbrush skulls on nipples!

Just took a good look through this thread from page one, and i have too say...... its just full to the brim of awesome. I love the smoothness the airbrush give to your armour and vehicles. The step by step is v helpful too. Sorry if this has been asked before (didn't read 'every' post, just most), but what air brush set up to you have, how much was it and where did you get it from. As a little addition, i REALLY love the source lighting, i'm more off an old skool painter, just brush work and blending but this thread make me think iv been wasting painting time, when instead i could have been air brushing. At least from the base colours. Are you going to do some honour guard? i think that you could pull off a great set using met colours and washes with your airbrushing skills.

Seriously great work. Cant wait to see more.

Alright, downloading miniature mentor course on his airbrushing on your say so!

I am considering watching this and deciding whether it would be better to buy an airbrush specific compressor with the class money (was gonna go join on sat) or go to the class... it isnt a mini specific class, just airbrush general stuff.

Thanks!


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p.s, how do you set up inside? It would be cool to work inside for me too, but I can't picture not making a mess! (by inside i mean not in the garage or basement, but plopped comfortably somewhere in the vicinity of a tv! lol)

Hits_the_spot wrote:Just took a good look through this thread from page one, and i have too say...... its just full to the brim of awesome. I love the smoothness the airbrush give to your armour and vehicles. The step by step is v helpful too. Sorry if this has been asked before (didn't read 'every' post, just most), but what air brush set up to you have, how much was it and where did you get it from. As a little addition, i REALLY love the source lighting, i'm more off an old skool painter, just brush work and blending but this thread make me think iv been wasting painting time, when instead i could have been air brushing. At least from the base colours. Are you going to do some honour guard? i think that you could pull off a great set using met colours and washes with your airbrushing skills.

Seriously great work. Cant wait to see more.

Thanks. The airbrush I have is an Iwata Revolution BR. I paid around $110 for it at my local hobby store in Richmond BC Canada (Imperial Hobbies). I'll be doing an honour guard soon, I have an unassembled box of Command Squad that I'll build and paint as a BA honor guard. Also I have a 10 man sanguinary guard squad to build and paint as well so plenty to come!

MajorTom11 wrote:Alright, downloading miniature mentor course on his airbrushing on your say so!

I am considering watching this and deciding whether it would be better to buy an airbrush specific compressor with the class money (was gonna go join on sat) or go to the class... it isnt a mini specific class, just airbrush general stuff.

Thanks!


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p.s, how do you set up inside? It would be cool to work inside for me too, but I can't picture not making a mess! (by inside i mean not in the garage or basement, but plopped comfortably somewhere in the vicinity of a tv! lol)

Yup, that MM video is quite helpful and Mathieu goes over the operation and usage of the airbrush in detail. It probably isn't as good as taking a class but in my case it was all I needed. I had my eye on a Sparmaxxx airbrush compressor from DeSerres for awhile now though it's around $400. Once my current compressor dies again, I'm going to spring for that.

For my setup, I paint in front of my computer. I got a large Ikea desk that holds everything including my airbrush holder on the right. In the picture, the compressor is just off to the right of the picture.

Beautiful job on those blood angels. Love them.

Nice to see some more models churned out from the Eggroll factory! Seeing the setup is also cool as I'm changing mine for the airbrushes, but now seeing yours I'll leave it as it is.

Loving the OSL on the power weapons, will be something I try when my new airbrushes arrive next week, maybe mix it up with my new lighting effect over metal blades. How many Stormravens you planning!! I think we're all going to be following Tom's photoshop mods though!