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Emperors Faithful wrote:I don't see why Necrons are on the side of Disorder. After all, what could be more neat and organised than a complete absence of all life?
I guess it is because they want to kill every living cell in the galaxy...
And that is pretty evil...
For Emperor and Imperium!!!! None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!! Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever" Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done" My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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Brother Coa wrote:
Emperors Faithful wrote:I don't see why Necrons are on the side of Disorder. After all, what could be more neat and organised than a complete absence of all life?
I guess it is because they want to kill every living cell in the galaxy...
And that is pretty evil...
Oh evil, most certainly.
But very well ordered at least. We have enough clutter around the galaxy as it is.
Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
But very well ordered at least. We have enough clutter around the galaxy as it is.
We certainly have
For Emperor and Imperium!!!! None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!! Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever" Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done" My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
Added to which, the Imperiums only sort of a force of Order. I always assumed there was massive corruption in the Imperium, to the point where while they talk about law and order, a lot of the time the law is what the local authorities say it is.
1. Coa where did you see that?
2. Imperium is very loosely available to Order. If they draw good and evil lines so poorly for that MMO gaks going to sink fast.
Varrick wrote:1. Coa where did you see that?
2. Imperium is very loosely available to Order. If they draw good and evil lines so poorly for that MMO gaks going to sink fast.
They should nto draw the lines. Every faction think ther are good according to their belief. And in the apocalyptic world of 40k, that means taht those who do not beleive are meant to be either turned or destroyed (or eaten alive by tyrranids). If you like the IoM than they are good and all other races are evil-ish. The evil level of the other races is jsut not as high.
so for the IoM point of view
evil: eldar, necron, tyrranids, orks, and other non warp rpeaching faction
super evil never talk to them except to smack talk them: Traitor legions, Dark eldar
So, the "evil" races can be talked to (except tyrranids but they arent evil, they just eat ..., everything). Necrons, eldar and even ork IIRC have been seen fighting alongside to killa common enemy. But NEVER will you see a traitor legion fight alongside a loyalist chapter.
So for eldar, the super evil would be dark eldars and so on (orks just dont care, a fight is a fight, lol)
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Varrick wrote:1. Coa where did you see that?
2. Imperium is very loosely available to Order. If they draw good and evil lines so poorly for that MMO gaks going to sink fast.
They should nto draw the lines. Every faction think ther are good according to their belief. And in the apocalyptic world of 40k, that means taht those who do not beleive are meant to be either turned or destroyed (or eaten alive by tyrranids). If you like the IoM than they are good and all other races are evil-ish. The evil level of the other races is jsut not as high.
so for the IoM point of view
evil: eldar, necron, tyrranids, orks, and other non warp rpeaching faction
super evil never talk to them except to smack talk them: Traitor legions, Dark eldar
So, the "evil" races can be talked to (except tyrranids but they arent evil, they just eat ..., everything). Necrons, eldar and even ork IIRC have been seen fighting alongside to killa common enemy. But NEVER will you see a traitor legion fight alongside a loyalist chapter.
So for eldar, the super evil would be dark eldars and so on (orks just dont care, a fight is a fight, lol)
For the game I think they will have to draw a line, or the game will be frantic with too many factions. They also never said good vs. evil. It's Order VS. Disorder with those descriptions it is easier to explain temporary alliances which are plausible in 40K.
For the game I think they will have to draw a line, or the game will be frantic with too many factions. They also never said good vs. evil. It's Order VS. Disorder with those descriptions it is easier to explain temporary alliances which are plausible in 40K.
yeah but they are temporary, an IG commander just wait for the common enemy to be defeated to back stab his temporary ally. I just would not see it working with the 40k fans
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Dawn of War series...
Order and Disorder campaigns...
Relic and GW draw the line of good and evil in there...
For Emperor and Imperium!!!! None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!! Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever" Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done" My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
I believe every single BL book begins with "to live in these times is to live in the most brutal regime imaginable". Imperium sounds like a happy place to me.
Yes, Ultramar is the best place to live and exists soley to be a contrast for the hellhole that is the rest of the IoM. That way they can know how crappy they are.
Oh com one guys, it's not that bad...
I would like to live on Cadia if I could.
For Emperor and Imperium!!!! None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!! Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever" Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done" My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
Evil wins all the time. A better question: Do Sisters ever win?
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
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They win quite a lot.
Every battle entry for Sisterhoods on Lexicanum is full of their victories. Except the Order of Our Martyred lady, who get almost their entire order killed defending a Catedral on Armageddon.
Good wins all the time but evil wins in a different way - by growing stronger due to battle emotions, tactics and everything...
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coolyo294 wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:Oh com one guys, it's not that bad...
I would like to live on Cadia if I could.
... WHY?!
2 things:
1. I love military, I would certainly enjoy at Cadia...
2. If I get bored I can go across the street and fight Daemons and traitors
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!! None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!! Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever" Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done" My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
coolyo294 wrote:So you would enjoy Cultists, Mutants, Titans, Demons, and Chaos Marines trying to kill you all day, every day for the rest of your life?
No, I would enjoy killing THEM in the Emperor's name every day until the rest of my life.
For Emperor and Imperium!!!! None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!! Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever" Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done" My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
You should read Eisenhorn. Cadia is not the place to go to avoid boredom. You can get stuck on guard duty for 50 years. As much as movies make wars exciting real military life is full of loooooong stretches of boredom.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:You should read Eisenhorn. Cadia is not the place to go to avoid boredom. You can get stuck on guard duty for 50 years. As much as movies make wars exciting real military life is full of loooooong stretches of boredom.
Yeah......
I wouldn't call that boring
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!! None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!! Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever" Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done" My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
Melissia wrote:Evil wins all the time. A better question: Do Sisters ever win?
There was this one time in Faith and Fire...
Other than that, they tend to be the Redshirt Army for whatever scenario if guardsmen don't apply. Even their codex is full of their matyrdom/failure-by-awesome.
Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
Emperors Faithful wrote:
Other than that, they tend to be the Redshirt Army for whatever scenario if guardsmen don't apply. Even their codex is full of their matyrdom/failure-by-awesome.
And this is just the opposite of the way they are presenting them: "Last to come, but most to be feared were the Sisters of Battle. Holy maidens and barres of the God-Emperor's faith."
Even I am afraid when playing against them because those Celestians are HARD to kill and they make vehicles like Baneblade a child's play...not to mention that they kill infantry with erase with those melta's.
But people hate them simply because they are all WOMAN. Because people think that the only place for woman in this world is kitchen...
For Emperor and Imperium!!!! None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!! Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever" Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done" My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
iproxtaco wrote:Not the only place, who else is going to clean the bathroom?
Thanks a lot for adding that option to...
For Emperor and Imperium!!!! None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!! Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever" Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done" My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
For Emperor and Imperium!!!! 
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever" 
in your name it shall be done" 
Fluff for the Fluff God! 
Thanks a lot for adding that option to...