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Slaanesh has some of his own Daemons who are trying to usurp his role as God of Excess, "Ur-Slaanesh", is the title they are called.Morathi could be one of those BUT so far we have no knowledge of this other than going off of guessing based on her usual behavior patterns.

It is also possible the "Shadowkin" are not Aelves but a tribe of humans. Considering the Kharadron Overlords and Fyreslayers were originally referenced as "Steamhead" and "Red Slayers" we should not be surprised if the Aelf army that coalesces does not share the same name as Shadowkin.

   
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Cataphract wrote:
Slaanesh has some of his own Daemons who are trying to usurp his role as God of Excess, "Ur-Slaanesh", is the title they are called.Morathi could be one of those BUT so far we have no knowledge of this other than going off of guessing based on her usual behavior patterns.

It is also possible the "Shadowkin" are not Aelves but a tribe of humans. Considering the Kharadron Overlords and Fyreslayers were originally referenced as "Steamhead" and "Red Slayers" we should not be surprised if the Aelf army that coalesces does not share the same name as Shadowkin.

Nah, Shadowkin are Aelves. We literally have two of them right now.

The Mistweaver Saih and Tenebrael Shard both had material calling them out as Shadowkin.
   
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new story

https://malignportents.com/story/grim-deliverance/
   
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The Garden Of Nurgle

Griiiimmmm. Great little story !

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Wonderful. I wonder if this means we'll see Mortal Death units. Nagash worshipping cults, more wizards that use Undeath, etc.
   
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Requizen wrote:
Wonderful. I wonder if this means we'll see Mortal Death units. Nagash worshipping cults, more wizards that use Undeath, etc.


Hopefully - there are plenty of them in the fluff.

Although the woman in this story could actually be a vampire - very strong, pale and immune to plague...

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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Requizen wrote:
Wonderful. I wonder if this means we'll see Mortal Death units. Nagash worshipping cults, more wizards that use Undeath, etc.


Hopefully - there are plenty of them in the fluff.

Although the woman in this story could actually be a vampire - very strong, pale and immune to plague...



"Sigmar has forsaken this place, but Nagash sees your struggles."

Nice story and it's a lesson if they all worshipped nagash through the start they would not be dying in the beds in the first place.

To be more serious this clearly shows the power of nagash and the necromancy is the antithesis of nurgle. Also she is a mortal practising the art of nagash aka a deathmage/necromancer. Necromancy makes one's complexion pale or ashen or even a combination of the two. Plus you get to live longer but you end up looking like a prune as the years go by.

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Requizen wrote:
Wonderful. I wonder if this means we'll see Mortal Death units. Nagash worshipping cults, more wizards that use Undeath, etc.


Wouldn't hold your breath based upon what Phil Kelly said on twitch. Basically said people were doing this as conversions but they wouldn't bee doing rules or model support for it
   
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I realise it's close to impossible with Nagash being the gakker he is, but I've always liked settings where 'Death' isn't necessarily malevolent. That's why I always had a fondness for Morr. Seeing some mortal Death units who are actively working for the betterment for the people in their realms would go a long way to making the Grey vs Grey morality Warhammer is known for more prominent in the bland Good vs Blatantly Evil AoS has been thus far.

Of course, it's probably just a vampire who's going to turn 'em all into mindless undead but I can hold out hope.
   
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Also on that twitch show he talked about how there were many underworlds in the realm of death - some of which work like that. But Nagash is working to bring them all under his control (and he's not so nice... God of Undeath rather than Death)
   
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Vorian wrote:
Requizen wrote:
Wonderful. I wonder if this means we'll see Mortal Death units. Nagash worshipping cults, more wizards that use Undeath, etc.


Wouldn't hold your breath based upon what Phil Kelly said on twitch. Basically said people were doing this as conversions but they wouldn't bee doing rules or model support for it

Lame. It would be a really nice thing to have. There wouldn't even need to be any new models, the Freeguild models would suffice.

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 Arbitrator wrote:
I realise it's close to impossible with Nagash being the gakker he is, but I've always liked settings where 'Death' isn't necessarily malevolent. That's why I always had a fondness for Morr. Seeing some mortal Death units who are actively working for the betterment for the people in their realms would go a long way to making the Grey vs Grey morality Warhammer is known for more prominent in the bland Good vs Blatantly Evil AoS has been thus far.

Of course, it's probably just a vampire who's going to turn 'em all into mindless undead but I can hold out hope.


Even Nagash in AOS is not all bad http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nagash_in_the_Mortal_Realms

- He has a number of aspects for like Sigmar he contains multitudes - All are one in Nagash and Nagash is all.[2]

Black Priest: He who gives succour to those whose deaths are too painful to be borne. [2]
Nagash-Mor: Calm and silent, he weighs the hearts of dead souls against a feather.[2]
Nagash unbound: A titan of death who strides across a field of corpses and wherever his shadow falls the dead rise and walk, raverning for the flesh of the living.[2]
The Forlorn Child: He leads those who die before their allotted time to gentle slumber.[2]
The Undying King: He leads the nine hundred and ninety-nine legions to war and walks in every man’s shadow and wades in every man's blood. The one who draws up the ­bodies of the enemy and hurls them back at their allies and who will not rest until the realm of death is scoured clean of false life.


Vampires are pretty variable in nature, always have been.

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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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Actually it could be Tamra ven Drak from "Nagash Undying King".
   
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Cataphract wrote:


Actually it could be Tamra ven Drak from "Nagash Undying King".


have not got that yet - is it good?

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Cataphract wrote:


Actually it could be Tamra ven Drak from "Nagash Undying King".


have not got that yet - is it good?


I like it, if it is a bit straight forward. It is set during the opening days of the Age of Chaos and you see a lot of call backs and Lore stuff here and there.
   
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new story

https://malignportents.com/story/the-hangmans-curse/
   
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I'm really enjoying the approach they've taken to the hype train here.

I'm always up for ADB short stories, and the whole thing feels really very slick.

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The Garden Of Nurgle

Poor Nurgle... Seems he must suffer the most from all those Death tricks ...

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I'm really enjoying the approach they've taken to the hype train here.

I'm always up for ADB short stories, and the whole thing feels really very slick.


Agreed - really enjoyng it all.

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page

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Yep, these short stories are great at setting the scene.
   
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 HorticulusDK wrote:
Poor Nurgle... Seems he must suffer the most from all those Death tricks ...


I imagine each of the Chaos Gods have a pretty different view of Nagash and the undead in general. Nurgle in particular hates him because his work is an abberation in the life/death cycle. I would be really interested in, years down the road, seeing another campaign where the main focus is Death vs Chaos, but with a different Chaos God instead.
   
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Huh. Nurgle uses zombies pretty regularly. I would've thought he and Nagash would be on pretty good terms.

   
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 Barzam wrote:
Huh. Nurgle uses zombies pretty regularly. I would've thought he and Nagash would be on pretty good terms.


The difference is that Undead squeletons and zombies are like in "stasis". They stop rotting, so they don't allow new life to grow. Nurgle zombies in the other hand decay at normal rates.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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 Barzam wrote:
Huh. Nurgle uses zombies pretty regularly. I would've thought he and Nagash would be on pretty good terms.


Nurgle Zombies are more like Infected Zombie types - The Last Of Us, 28 Days Later, that sort of thing. Still alive but blessed with Nurgle's Gift and turned mindless to serve him.

Nagash Zombies are reanimated corpses - Night of the Living Dead, Walking Dead, etc. Nothing lives in the corpse, no pumping blood or working neurons, it's just animated by magic.

Know your Zombies! It could save your life some day!
   
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Nurgle only uses zombies in 40k, even then they aren't like conventional necromantic zombies.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Nurgle only uses zombies in 40k, even then they aren't like conventional necromantic zombies.

We had Nurgle zombies for WHFB, they just never really made it to the tabletop.

And there? The Nurgle zombies eventually 'transformed' into Plaguebearers.
   
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Nurgle Zombies are the more "modern" kind of zombies: spreading through contagion. Also, from what I gather, they are a bit like the ones in the last of us, as in they are more or less colonies of parasites/magical warp-bacterias that keep the body moving after decaying.

Nagash's undeads are more the classic "risen dead" stereotype: guy gets killed, gets raised as a slave to the will of the necromancer who did that.

   
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My swamp themed Nurglers have a twenty strong unit of drowned corpses I wanted to use as zombies, but now with artefacts and stuff, I dunno. Nurgle IMO should have zombies, just different ones from purely necromantic ones. Teeming with worms and maggoths and fungi, not sterile magic. Like the Horned Rat encroaching Nurgle's plague business - similiar things, but for different goals.
   
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I expect a new Warhammer Quest in March or April.
   
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They decided a long time ago to leave the undead to undead and not give that sort of thing to Nurgle. What Nurgle actually needs is pestigors, and/or just giving beastmen their fething marks back!

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