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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So that girl.
She is called "Omega"
Some think she might be another clone experiment, this time to make a female clone.
Not sure why.


This just started a cascade of weird thoughts for me.

Is Omega a letter in a Star Wars language? Is it the same language that gave us the X, Y, A and B of their respective wings? Don’t they use Aurebesh to write Basic? That’s their alphabet, right? But there are no Aurebesh letters shaped like an X or a B, so how does that work?


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We always knew we were hearing the autotranslated version since Aurebesh appeared in ROTJ. The fanon existence of multiple writing systems does neatly explain the use of alpha-numerical designations, presumably autotranslated to the closest Earthly equivalent.


   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
We always knew we were hearing the autotranslated version since Aurebesh appeared in ROTJ. The fanon existence of multiple writing systems does neatly explain the use of alpha-numerical designations, presumably autotranslated to the closest Earthly equivalent.


More that we knew that Lucas didn't give a crap about this sort of thing.
Canonically, there was no paper (or paper equivalents), and the 70s 'button-and-switches' tech aesthetic gave no possibility of actual input devices.

Star Wars simply isn't grounded, its an audience facing set for character actions to play out on.

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I just assumed they used enslaved, sapient speech-to-text devices. We know they can read. We’ve never seen them write, nor have we seen books. I’m not sure we’ve ever seen any purely visual arts in the setting.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I just assumed they used enslaved, sapient speech-to-text devices. We know they can read. We’ve never seen them write, nor have we seen books. I’m not sure we’ve ever seen any purely visual arts in the setting.


Well they clearly like holo dancing/acrobatics/weird stuff.





Whatever Palpatine is watching here is purely a visual display. Unless there is a subconscious dialogue that we can't perceive being blared to the audience via psionic resonance of some kind.

Which would be interesting to have in Star Wars. All sentient life is psionic on a basic level and computers have been designed which allows people to interact with them partially using these psionic communication methods. Which is why little to no visible interface is required to use them. People can just tell the computers what they want them to do and they'll do it, likewise people know what the computer is telling them on a basic level. Individuals who understand Binary have a deeper intuitive understanding of computers, and droids.

It would also explain why Droids can exist, and why droids can become sentient.

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Right, but no still paintings or drawings. No books or newspapers. Everything seems to have either an aural or tactile component.


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You edited your post since I saw it. I don’t believe the opera has a psionic component; we hear some weird music that’s part of the experience.

It strikes me that we don’t see movies or hear recordings in Star Wars. All art is performed live, even in the most wretched bars.

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Aurebesh is an alphabet, the language itself is called Basic. It's an important distinction because a number of real Earth alphabets exist in the Star Wars universe, and there's an argument to be made that Basic actually is functionally identical to English.

The High Galactic Alphabet is the official reasoning for instances of english lettering appearing in Star Wars (edited out of computer displays in the Special Editions, but still present on cockpit dashboards and holographic signs and billboards never intended to be seen in glorious HD) and has been since I think around Attack of the Clones? X-Wings, Y-Wings are named such because they resemble the letters X and Y of the High Galactic Alphabet, and not Xesh or Yirt (or Vev, which certainly looks like a Y to me!)

I'm pretty sure it's also the actual alphabet used to generate the letters used in droid names (which are apparently also shortened forms of 20+ character long serial numbers) suggesting its engrained into the tech sector to some degree, given that we don't really see droids with aurebesh, tionese or huttese elements in their names, generally.

We also definitely see a lot of holographic entertainment in Star Wars, including video games and recordings of twilek dancers in the films, and we've probably seen some examples of prerecorded music in all eras of the films - and explicitly seen as much in books, novels, etc.

As for other forms of entertainment in Star Wars: the Holonet in particular is a very interesting one to me: it clearly started conceptually as a rough analogue to the internet as it existed in the 70s - extremely difficult to plug in to, very narrow in purpose, and then it developed over the course of the EU (now Legends) to essentially be space Cable-TV, until around the time AotC came out and they decided it was the internet as it existed in the 90s.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Voss wrote:
A better question is 'Why an energy bow?'
Less violent than a gun.


It's been pointed out elsewhere but it may be a connection to the Night Sisters.

   
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Man, i love how rather than theorize about why the possiblity of a female clone exists and what her role would be....
We nerds here at Dakka debate.....letters and words and if star wars has BOOKS

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Voss wrote:
A better question is 'Why an energy bow?'
Less violent than a gun.


Tch. I hate that you're probably right.

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Tch. I hate that you're probably right.
Me too, but the latter Clone Wars and Rebels seasons were seriously Disney-fied, to the point where you have people using the stun setting on Storm Troopers and flying through warzones using a lightsaber to cut up weapons rather than actually hit the people using them.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Man, i love how rather than theorize about why the possiblity of a female clone exists and what her role would be....
We nerds here at Dakka debate.....letters and words and if star wars has BOOKS


Sure, sure. But in the other hand, who cares if a clone exists? Or is female? Or what role she might have? If we’re starting from scratch on a character, Sci fi concept, and story, why not ditch the franchise baggage altogether?

What would you even have us discuss? “A FEMALE clone??? Wha? But Jango isn’t FEmale! They must have either cloned a different person or tinkered with the Jango genes. So much to work with there we’ll never run out of speculations!” ?

   
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I don't see why a female clone is such a shocking thing. I mean, this is a universe where cloning exists, so they could clone anyone. It's not as if Jango was the only viable candidate.

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 Captain Joystick wrote:
And there's a character in Alphabet Squadron who was a financial columnist before the Empire unpersoned him.


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Must read Alphabet Squadron at some point all the same.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Captain Joystick wrote:
And there's a character in Alphabet Squadron who was a financial columnist before the Empire unpersoned him.


I Do Not Know If This Is A Fib And I’m Not Sure I Want To.

Must read Alphabet Squadron at some point all the same.


You really should.

I don't want to hype it up too much (because I love it and am prone to hyperbole) but I'll at least recommend the audio books for their superb production quality.

   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't see why a female clone is such a shocking thing. I mean, this is a universe where cloning exists, so they could clone anyone. It's not as if Jango was the only viable candidate.

More of, why would they bother? What would her purpose be if true.

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Exactly the same if she was male?


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't see why a female clone is such a shocking thing. I mean, this is a universe where cloning exists, so they could clone anyone. It's not as if Jango was the only viable candidate.

More of, why would they bother? What would her purpose be if true.


1 - Someone paid them (She notably doesn't have to be part of the clone trooper program in any way. Literally anyone in the galaxy could have shown up on Long-Neck-Water-Planet and said 'hey, I want a copy of this'). This seems the most likely reason in a Star Wars cartoon. Someone wanted a clone of a Special Child of Destiny.

2 - Because SCIENCE!

3 - Testing for potential use psychological or physiological characteristics [A can o' worms I don't expect Disney to touch, but given how social and ethically distanced the cloners came across in the films, I can see them doing it, in universe]

4 - Given the show is focused on the 'bad batch,' accidental result. Chromosome flips, extra chromosomes and reduced expression are things that actually happens in actual people. When you start mass producing people, statistically you're going to get outliers as part of your results. Again, I don't expect Disney of all people to spend 10 minutes explaining intersex or nuanced gender expression in a freaking Star Wars cartoon, but the answer to your 'But why?' is a simple 'Normal statistical variation.'

5- <insert reason here> Up to and including 'not actually a clone,' just some Special Kid they pick up along the way.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Exactly the same if she was male?

And also this.
Cloners made a clone. /shrug

The writers also probably wanted some variation to include beyond the 'boys club of all the same boy,' and they went with really obvious differences to highlight a new character and break up the monotony.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't see why a female clone is such a shocking thing. I mean, this is a universe where cloning exists, so they could clone anyone. It's not as if Jango was the only viable candidate.


Sure, but if they go down the route that she is a female clone of Jango, then its a problem. Because at that point they just made the character female just to be female, and they want a connection to the Clone army made from Jango. IE: Lazy contrived story telling.

It can work if she's a clone of someone else for some other purpose. IE: an original story, vs Star Wars's typical rehashing of the same story over and over again.


And no, its not possible that she is just an accident during the cloning process. If you're cloning a Male sample you're never in a bajillion years going to accidentally make a Female sample. Let alone waste the resources letting that sample grow to maturity. That would be an additional level of lazyness, going to great lengths to try and justify why this Clone is female.

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A female clone in Star Wars you say?




.....Clearly, she is Palpatine......

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FWIW I didn't even register that the kid was supposed to be female, just thought it was a prepubescent boy.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't see why a female clone is such a shocking thing. I mean, this is a universe where cloning exists, so they could clone anyone. It's not as if Jango was the only viable candidate.


Sure, but if they go down the route that she is a female clone of Jango, then its a problem. Because at that point they just made the character female just to be female, and they want a connection to the Clone army made from Jango. IE: Lazy contrived story telling.

It can work if she's a clone of someone else for some other purpose. IE: an original story, vs Star Wars's typical rehashing of the same story over and over again.


And no, its not possible that she is just an accident during the cloning process. If you're cloning a Male sample you're never in a bajillion years going to accidentally make a Female sample. Let alone waste the resources letting that sample grow to maturity. That would be an additional level of lazyness, going to great lengths to try and justify why this Clone is female.


Ah. I didn't realize we had an expert on sci-fantasy cloning processes from a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. I guess we'll take your expert testimony on fantasy cloning and writing at face value.

And of course, no one in any scientific endeavor has come across an unexpected result and said 'Let's see how this plays out.' Nope. Got to burn out any variation and stomp out any chance at learning something new. Because that's how progress works.

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 Grey Templar wrote:

And no, its not possible that she is just an accident during the cloning process. If you're cloning a Male sample you're never in a bajillion years going to accidentally make a Female sample. Let alone waste the resources letting that sample grow to maturity. That would be an additional level of lazyness, going to great lengths to try and justify why this Clone is female.

And yet the Bad Batch exists...

 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
 Grey Templar wrote:

And no, its not possible that she is just an accident during the cloning process. If you're cloning a Male sample you're never in a bajillion years going to accidentally make a Female sample. Let alone waste the resources letting that sample grow to maturity. That would be an additional level of lazyness, going to great lengths to try and justify why this Clone is female.

And yet the Bad Batch exists...


Early sample, maybe. That kid being a Jango Clone offshoot wouldn't work under ye-olde Legends, because the Kaminoans were extremely careful about deviations and stuff, being able to edit people to a T. An accidental, blonde, female clone of Jango would have to be done on purpose, under those rules, anyway. Now? Eh. But considering she's already shown to be a better combattant than Clone Troopers already turned me off the show, it's going to be Mando 2.0 with beyond incompetent bad guys.

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