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The project is live :-)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1273312680/war-is-coming-warmaidens-and-dragonbreds/description

Thank you for your support!

What is the most cost effective way to get a box of each of the plastics?

Those baby bears are ridiculously cute.


Something about the proportions of these new maidens don't really sit well with me, but hopefully the campaign can do well without my meager contribution.

They were great on delivering the Warmaiden Kickstarter they ran. Though I need to now look at them as I'm tempted to grab some of the wolf wardens to augment them with heavier troops.

Backed for... something.

I'm looking forward to seeing what those stretch goals hide. The Shieldmaiden campaign (as well as the first one) had some nice reveals.

My attention keeps getting drawn to the fact that we've got "lesser" yetis so far. Going to take a wild guess the greater ones show up further on.

I want to see how those crew will work with the greater fenris too. Seems it's as large as the mammoth? Wow.

I can't figure out how to read the pricing, to save my life...

If I am in at $150, why does it seem like their "or" statements make some choices FAR better than others?

Edit: I think i'm figuring it out. I think dividing some many of the bundles into sub-bundles was throwing me.

Either way... seems like very fair prices, and if the sci-fi weapons allow, my wife would love to make a Female Space Wolves counts-as army.

@NewTruthNeoxamin
If I understood you correctly, that's because we tend to reward larger pledges compared to smaller ones, although we try offering a very good value from the base pledge.

We also created this graphic to make things easier to see.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/139394575@N08/37304945545/in/dateposted-public/

If I didn't understand you correctly though, please rephrase and I'll try to be of assistance. Thank you for your support :-)

 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
@NewTruthNeoxamin
If I understood you correctly, that's because we tend to reward larger pledges compared to smaller ones, although we try offering a very good value from the base pledge.

We also created this graphic to make things easier to see.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/139394575@N08/37304945545/in/dateposted-public/

If I didn't understand you correctly though, please rephrase and I'll try to be of assistance. Thank you for your support :-)

Nope! I've got it now (though, yes, the visual does help).

My wife is thrilled, and we can't wait to see what else gets unlocked as options!

Well, I'm in for a raiding party level, but may have to downgrade it depending on how things play out. Last KS I pledged in, the CC sent a fraud alert text to me and my wife asking if I'd really spent arguably too much money on Kickstarter. My wife was most interested in my answer...

Ok I am in

Looking forward to the Sisters of Faith

In for 200$.

Did they ever get the spears worked out for the maidens?

Thank you all for your support, it means a lot to us! :-)

@ncshooter426
We learned from our mistake and we are very careful in stating what will and what will not be on the sprues this time, best we surprise pleasantly than overpromise and dissapoint. We have received the feedback from the Shieldmaidens though and we'll be adding more weaponry options this time.

 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
Thank you all for your support, it means a lot to us! :-)

@ncshooter426
We learned from our mistake and we are very careful in stating what will and what will not be on the sprues this time, best we surprise pleasantly than overpromise and dissapoint. We have received the feedback from the Shieldmaidens though and we'll be adding more weaponry options this time.

Obviously you don't need to do this, but a really nice option would be sprues with enough *coughcough* "special" weapons to turn the Sci-Fi women into any kind of unit a game might call for. ;-)

I'm in for a starter army.

Am I missing something or the 100$ pack for the SF sisters is a better deal compared to the higher tiers ?
100$ : 2 tanks & 3 squads
200$ : 4 tanks but "only" 5 squads

Any indication when the not-SoB will be an option?

Samko wrote:
I'm in for a starter army.

Am I missing something or the 100$ pack for the SF sisters is a better deal compared to the higher tiers ?
100$ : 2 tanks & 3 squads
200$ : 4 tanks but "only" 5 squads

First, gratitude for the support.
Second, the tanks are not exactly the same, they have additions that will later be available also as add-ons. It's not exactly a "perfect" exchange but production wise it's similar so for us it's the same, backers are free to pick what fits them most :-)

So this has got over half way to its goal in under a day, pretty good going!

Shieldwolf, are the next two factions going to be added to the campaign immediately on funding? I don't have any real interest in the wolves (other than the tanks) but would definitely get aload of sisters. Also are you going to do mixed sci-fi/fantasy pledges? as I would be after both and getting 2 raiding parties doesn't give as good value as one $100 pledge.

Also porting over the size chart of the tanks for those interested;

Good morning,

thanks for the support and for posting the size chart :-)

While I'd love to answer you "yes", I'm afraid there will be no mixed pledges for sci-fi and fantasy, our minds race ahead to what happens after the project has finished and here too we have a big number of extras, so we have decided to keep the 2 versions separately in order to facilitate fulfillment. While a backer can definitely back for both anyway, we are thinking that number is going to be fairly small and backers will mostly back for either only science fiction or only fantasy; meaning it will make our lives easier when we pack the rewards.
At least that's how we see and believe things are going to work like.

As for the stretch goal order it's very early yet (still day one out of 3 weeks), we have 3 pre-designed courses with the math done to each of them, all depending on how the funding goes. I can't tell you more than that, other than we are still very much on "course/scenario" A (that's not how we have them in our folders, we simply have A,B,C but I just gave it a name now to explain myself better!)

When the campaign is over, I'd really love to see a breakdown in terms of percentage between 'pure gamers' who only buy one faction and 'collectors' who buy a bit of each faction.

Most of the people I hobby with are the collector type who like a variety of models rather than an army of one type--I wonder how typical that is.

@BobtheInquisitor
Sure, we can share that. Perhaps if we have time even make a graphic to make it a bit more interesting too.
What we would be more interested to see is the ratio between the sci-fi and fantasy crowd and how our research corresponds to that of the actual pledges.
Either way, we will have to wait for the pledge manager to come out first in order to see the actual numbers, but as I said sure, I don't see why we can't share this information :-)

Rather bizarre that there was no "get ready" message to backers of the several previous Shieldwolf Kickstarters... I put $50 down for it for the time being but may not have even known that this was live in the first 24 hours if ingtaer hadn't posted here while I happened to be browsing.

Hopefully it gets funded and they add some proper "all-plastic troops" type pledges.

Setting the boxes at 20 sci-fi troops vs 10 fantasy ones is a real head-scratcher as well. Even if it might get bumped as a stretch goal. Seems to be an early-2000's GW-ish mentality at work there in "valuing" the sci-fi models at 2x the fantasy, presumably because reasons. I certainly don't value KSing 20 femme spacewolves at $50 plus $15 postage + 12-18 months wait compared to (let's be honest) GW models I can buy and have delivered right now for around the same. Say, a Start Collecting box of my choice. But the campaign has 3 weeks to raise that value from the insult (compared to the fantasy models in the same KS - apples to apples) that it currently is.

I kinda get the feeling that the split focus (4 ways) between sci-fi and fantasy Wolves and not-SoB might be a big issue for the campaign as people only interested in 1 or 2 types find the stretch goals pointless for their interest. Didn't the same thing happen with the previous SM/Orcs campaign that got cancelled?

At least this one will probably (hopefully) fund within a day or so. 2/3 of the way there without an email to previous backers so those who know about it so far will be the SW faithful who spend time on the KS comments/facebook. The last successful campaign (Shieldmaidens) had 565 backers, and this one has 193 so far with no promotion, so this one funding
should be a safe bet, and hopefully hitting a few stretch goals in turn.


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 ncshooter426 wrote:
In for 200$.
Did they ever get the spears worked out for the maidens?

It was called "Buy some Fireforge spears and convert the models". I managed the first of those so far.


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 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:
@NewTruthNeoxamin
If I understood you correctly, that's because we tend to reward larger pledges compared to smaller ones, although we try offering a very good value from the base pledge.

You may want to consider adding in a larger "all-plastic" pledge (or pledges) for people who don't want any of the resin on offer offer. I'd probably pick up any/all of the HIPS infantry on offer (assuming the sci-fi value eventually matches the fantasy), but I'm not interested in the Chibi tanks or resin monsters. I know there are quite a lot of others out there who only want to deal with purchasing plastic (HIPS specifically), and given that plastic tooling is the primary reason you're doing this...

I'm waiting for these to come out.



Mostly for the bottom one with those doors.

 Azazelx wrote:


Setting the boxes at 20 sci-fi troops vs 10 fantasy ones is a real head-scratcher as well. Even if it might get bumped as a stretch goal. Seems to be an early-2000's GW-ish mentality at work there in "valuing" the sci-fi models at 2x the fantasy, presumably because reasons. I certainly don't value KSing 20 femme spacewolves at $50 plus $15 postage + 12-18 months wait compared to (let's be honest) GW models I can buy and have delivered right now for around the same. Say, a Start Collecting box of my choice. But the campaign has 3 weeks to raise that value from the insult (compared to the fantasy models in the same KS - apples to apples) that it currently is.

They stated in the comments that the reason is the fantasy version is what the funding is for. They are funding the scifi version themselves, So the Goal isn't really for the scifi, but for the fantasy alone. If the fantasy version is funded they will finance the scifi entirely themselves. As such they need have to subsidize the amount a bit. But as you quoted if the money raised is high enough they can justify putting more in each box.

Will these show up in this KS? Or are they still in limbo?

@Azazelx
I hear you.
@Smokestack
That is correct.
@skarsol
Yes, they will show up on tis project.

Oooh, an all plastic pledge would be seriously tempting!

I was pretty happy with the larger resin stuff I've gotten from Shieldwolf. I'm hoping that the new heroes at least are going to be more in scale with these new offerings though!

If the sci-fi girls get up to 20 per box and the tanks go plastic I'll be in for $350ish

New update has said that the Bear Cubs are going to go to the first 300 backers rather than those who backed in 24hrs. Pic included for daww;

 Smokestack wrote:

They stated in the comments that the reason is the fantasy version is what the funding is for. They are funding the scifi version themselves, So the Goal isn't really for the scifi, but for the fantasy alone. If the fantasy version is funded they will finance the scifi entirely themselves. As such they need have to subsidize the amount a bit. But as you quoted if the money raised is high enough they can justify putting more in each box.

Not to labour the point, but as a backer of items that this KS appears to be offering, and much more interested in the Sci-fi offerings, I don't care or need to care about that. Now at this point I'm very hopeful at the campaign funding (less than $4k to go at this point) but the current hotness at this point in 2017 is very much 40k, and models that can be used as proxies for that system are what can easily make or break this campaign in terms of hitting a lot of goals. Offering sub-par value on the sci-fi compared to what on the surface is the other half (quarter, eventually) of the campaign won't be helping it to fund any faster or further.

Seriously, GW can't keep their gak in stock right now. 40k is hotter than it has been in many years. That's the rocket you want to hitch your models to right now in order to get more betterer funded faster, not 9th Age or even AoS.

Seeing that GW still doesn't appear to have plastic Sisters of Battle on the (visible) cards right now also means that the more popular sci-fi kit would have been the Sisters/Nuns/Whatever - and as such would have helped the campaign to fund faster. Wolf sisters are certainly the more unique choice and can proxy in as Sisters of Silence, but the choice there to go with the Nuns over the Wolves would have had to be a last-minute one, soley based on the (lack of) SoB announcements by GW as late as possible.

In what I guess is retrospect (very early retrospect) it would have been a good idea in advance of the campaign to pay for some high-quality 3-d prints of any completed components and then resin cast a few (few dozen) to have some prototypes to show in the KS, and even better - out to a few independent reviewers/hobbyists who could then do what Shieldwolf can not - have them assembled and painted up alongside GW and others' plastic models and posted on social media/forums/blogs/etc. Might not be possible depending on the status of the digital sculpts, but it would certainly be a great way to showcase the product on offer during the campaign.

It was good to see the call go out to the previous campaign backers and also the adjustment to the bear cubs. Broadens the base of potential backers immediately and also prevents missing out on bear cubs from being a small annoyance to people who find out about the campaign slightly later while still giving it a sense of urgency (better back now if you want dem cute cubs - only 38 left!!!!)

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Oooh, an all plastic pledge would be seriously tempting!
I was pretty happy with the larger resin stuff I've gotten from Shieldwolf. I'm hoping that the new heroes at least are going to be more in scale with these new offerings though!

Shieldwolfs resin is good quality - no question there in my experience at least - I know some others had issues with them described earlier in this thread. I just don't go for the aesthetics of the big wolf-monster or the tanks (they look a little too chibi for me beyond the Rhino chassis) - but we're really here for the HIPs! I don't mind a couple of stretch goal characters or whatever, bit I don't want to be paying for tanks or monsters that don't especially appeal to me when I'd happily go for something with more plastic.

To be fair, the Wolf Wardens Starter Army bundle is quite decent with 80 plastic infantry included.
I just think that the same could (should) be done with the sci-fi Sisters of Wolves - 80 plastics, and maybe 10 wolves instead of 5 wolves and 3 yeti. Space Wolves have wolf packs, after all. I can see that appealing big time to 40k players.
If plastic tanks get funded, then a new pledge level bundle can be created then.

skarsol wrote:
Will these show up in this KS? Or are they still in limbo?

Those where/are very smexy....and if they show up I might have to toss some cash their way.