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40K Space Wolf rumours
Some rumours about changes to the 40K Space Wolf army have been posted on the Chosen Realms message board. These are reposted with permission as the site is only accessible to members.

From their website:

Rumours - Having talked to one of the guys at the LGS, (GW Pompey) there are stories (with him having recently been talking to Phil Kelly, and several of the Dev Team, he didn’t explain why) of the Fenrisian Wolves becoming an option for Space Wolf Armies (I’d assume either a Fast Attack Choice, or a non-FOC selection similar to CSM daemons), with Mediocre stats, but Furious Charge, or similar.

Wishful Thinking - Pretty popular rumour as well (no source as yet, but ask any Space Wolf player from before the Eye of Terror Campaign), is that the Wulfen are going to be allowed to be taken as a Unique choice, similar to the Legion of the Damned.


Special Characters include Logan Grimnar (stats brought into line with Chapter Master, Orbital Bombardment), Bjorn the Fellhanded, Ragnar Blackmane, and the old Wolf Priest I can’t remember the name of. Wolf Lords take the role of Captains, no more Battle Leaders. Frost Blades become Relic Blades. True Grit is removed, but Grey Hunters gain 2 Attacks, Points Cost increase (might get Heavy Weapons). Wolf Guards can be taken as either Terminator Squads, or Veterans.

Blood Claws (Power Armoured SM Scouts, BP/CCW, Power Weapon/Fist upgrades as before) can be taken as either Troops, or if taken as Fast Attack, must take Bikes, or Jump Packs.

Iron Priests become elites, can take Servitor Retinues.

Leman Russ Annhilators [sic. Exterminators] removed. Crusaders and Redeemers added. Distrust of new technology suggests that the Thunderfire is not added. Scouts (no longer 0-1) stay as elite, but can take Bikes. Gain Cluster Mines, Sniper Rifles, WS/BS4, Meltabombs, Power Weapons, Locator Beacons.

Not sure over Drop Podding, or Teleporting. They make use of them, but not too keen on it. I’d imagine that they gain Preferred Enemy vs. Thousand Sons/Troops with MoT, or lose it entirely. Maybe the same for Dark Angels.

I’d also think that the Rune Priests get access to Storm Caller, and all of the new Psychic Powers. Wulfen Rune Priests may be limited to “The Gate”.

Interesting

=> wolfpriest = Ulrik ?

Pretty underwhelming compared to the other 5E armylist makeovers, though.

Agreed. Nothing jumped out and screamed "WOW I NEED TO PLAY THIS ARMY!"

Headkeepa wrote:Agreed. Nothing jumped out and screamed "WOW I NEED TO PLAY THIS ARMY!"

Actually, that made me skeptic about this batch

Same here.

Seems like someone just thought of how to 5th edition-ize them, without any of the sizzle.

So...

Careful now, Jervis hasn't had a chance to give it a good spank yet, he has a big one for the Space Wolves and has said before that he wanted to do them personally and correctly.

BrookM wrote:Careful now, Jervis hasn't had a chance to give it a good spank yet, he has a big one for the Space Wolves and has said before that he wanted to do them personally and correctly.

Aieeee!!!!

No, not Jervis and his "personal touch"!!!

"Guns" and "Big Guns" here we come!

Ugh!

That looks really, really dumb. Other than access to LRCs and LRRs you could pretty much just use the current codex and be happier.

Grey Furcoat Salamanders coming soon to a table near you!

old priest of probly Njel stormcaller (sp?) not too sure how to spell it though, last time i saw the model was in the 98 catalogue

Rumours - Having talked to one of the guys at the LGS, (GW Pompey)

heh, im currently in pompey (portsmouth)
i might drop in and see what news they got XD

Njall Stormcaller.

His raven will hopefully be a cool piece of wargear this time around.

Sounds like a reasonable set of rumours.

Its kinda funny that I went to the effort to get permission to repost them and then someone just copy and pastes it onto Dakka ;-)

The original post on TGN has a link to the actual source, Chosen Realms, so please lets not think that TGN is the source of the rumours, we're just reposting them as the original message board is member's only and the public can't read it.

Careful now, Jervis hasn't had a chance to give it a good spank yet, he has a big one for the Space Wolves and has said before that he wanted to do them personally and correctly.

<_< *Looks at avatar* Oh great, at least the puppies will suck as much as us now.

Well, unlike everyone else, all I'm thinking is OMG OMG OMG OMG.... (breathe)... OMG....

A few thoughts though

Reecius wrote:
Rumours - Having talked to one of the guys at the LGS, (GW Pompey) there are stories (with him having recently been talking to Phil Kelly, and several of the Dev Team, he didn’t explain why) of the Fenrisian Wolves becoming an option for Space Wolf Armies (I’d assume either a Fast Attack Choice, or a non-FOC selection similar to CSM daemons), with Mediocre stats, but Furious Charge, or similar.

Wishful Thinking - Pretty popular rumour as well (no source as yet, but ask any Space Wolf player from before the Eye of Terror Campaign), is that the Wulfen are going to be allowed to be taken as a Unique choice, similar to the Legion of the Damned.

This worries me... Fenrisian Wolves and Wulfen being a choice in the SW codex for normal SW armies seems to mean the 13th Company are going out the window. By sneaking these units in, I think they're making a compromise that most will live with... sadly. As someone who played the 13th company even before it was a real army (In the dawn of 3rd ed. my FLGS had a small league where we all created variant codexes to play with [subject to league approval]. I played the 13th Co. with troops being essentially Wulfen (My version was a D3" rage with a 4+ save thinking their armor would likely be tattered by now, but other stats the same), so I'd be REALLY sad to see them go (Got about 30 Wulfen models and 30 Fenrisian Wolves).

Reecius wrote:Special Characters include Logan Grimnar (stats brought into line with Chapter Master, Orbital Bombardment), Bjorn the Fellhanded, Ragnar Blackmane, and the old Wolf Priest I can’t remember the name of. Wolf Lords take the role of Captains, no more Battle Leaders. Frost Blades become Relic Blades. True Grit is removed, but Grey Hunters gain 2 Attacks, Points Cost increase (might get Heavy Weapons). Wolf Guards can be taken as either Terminator Squads, or Veterans.

Blood Claws (Power Armoured SM Scouts, BP/CCW, Power Weapon/Fist upgrades as before) can be taken as either Troops, or if taken as Fast Attack, must take Bikes, or Jump Packs.

Njal Stormcaller would be awesome. Nightwing could either mess with reserve rolls or bar scouts/infiltrators on a 4+ (maybe roll for each unit). Would be an awesome ability. Every ability needs some check.

Grey Hunters with 2 attacks... Even more evidence the 13th Company is going out the window... I could see maybe 20pts/model though for them being a really tough squad to deal with. Also, with Grey Hunters getting 2 attacks, that could be a hint that Wolf Guard get 3! Maybe wishful thinking, but seems logical to me.

Blood Claws, meh... leave them with something cool!

Reecius wrote:Leman Russ Annhilators [sic. Exterminators] removed. Crusaders and Redeemers added. Distrust of new technology suggests that the Thunderfire is not added. Scouts (no longer 0-1) stay as elite, but can take Bikes. Gain Cluster Mines, Sniper Rifles, WS/BS4, Meltabombs, Power Weapons, Locator Beacons.

Not sure over Drop Podding, or Teleporting. They make use of them, but not too keen on it. I’d imagine that they gain Preferred Enemy vs. Thousand Sons/Troops with MoT, or lose it entirely. Maybe the same for Dark Angels.

I’d also think that the Rune Priests get access to Storm Caller, and all of the new Psychic Powers. Wulfen Rune Priests may be limited to “The Gate”.

I like that "Wulfen Rune Priests" are mentioned... maybe there is hope yet! Although, I seriously doubt all SM psychic powers will be available. They have always given extra love to the SW's, but its always at a price! No Stormcaller AND Gate without losing some powers.

All I hope for is 1) Equipment options stay SOMEWHAT close to what they are. 2) 13th company option remains (hopefully with some MotW option) and 3) Njal and Bjorn come back!

Finally some news! So exciting!

Njall Stormcaller.

His raven will hopefully be a cool piece of wargear this time around.

thanks
wasnt too sure on the spelling of his name.
but the birdy was junk, possible a ranged attack?

Yawn. All boring.

On a hopeful sidenote though if i was going to make up some rumours and wanted to totally avoid them being blasted as unlikely and unreasonable, that's the list I would have made.

SOrry Pixlegeek, I actually didn't even notice that until you pointed it out.

I'd kill for some Fenrisian Wolves sculpted with the same care and detail as the Cold Ones.

The rules are just rules...I am excited for the new models. SW still have a singular and potent visual aesthetic.

So basically, rumors match exactly what everybody's been expecting? OK, all good.

I’d assume

Wishful Thinking - Pretty popular rumour as well (no source as yet, but ask any Space Wolf player

Distrust of new technology suggests

I’d imagine

Maybe

I’d also think

Looks to me like most of that is just the author's conjecture, not what he actually heard from the Devs.

I am sweet but I want my russ Bjorn back as a char .

Pretty bland if ya ask me. I am in agreement with the above. A good rumor that would not get trashed like some of the others. Apparently we will have to wait until Christmas or worse to find out. See Ya then.

Seems like how most of us would homebrew a 5th ed SW 'dex more than aany concrete source to me.

I think it's all plausible, but I have some doubts that it's totally accurate. I think it's more likely that Grey Hunters are armed with bolter, bp, and ccw than they are Attack 2 base. But, anythings possible.

Ok, haven't read the OP at all! But I want to just say...


WOOHOOO, SW RUMORS!


Ok, now I will read it...just wanted to voice my joy at finally seeing a rumor post about SW.

Hmmm, joy has apparently vanished...*sigh*


Not sure about the loss of the Exterminator as I have heard we will be keeping it from other message boards. Not sure which board, maybe B&C or some such...doesn't matter really as it is a rumor.

But still no word on how many HQ units per points we can take? I thought that rumor would be hard to keep quiet.

Everything else does seem a "well duh" kind of update.

If I was a space wolf player I would be unconscious by the clobbering of boring these rumors dish out.

Space Wolves are such a cool army with great potential. When they are just baby-blue-smurfs with bad hair they can bring back the squats that bring all the viking vibe into 40k.

Greets
Schepp himself

The rumors imply increased list and unit flexibility, additional units, and updated stats. That sounds pretty good to me.

I think people are hating on the fact its going to live up to what its suppose to be. What is there that is justifiably and uniquely space wolves? All the non-codex chapters are just different organizations of the same basic list concept, with a few additions. Short if Leman Russ himself being in the book, there isn't too much they could add.

We don't know what rules the units have or anything really.

Actually I think people are hating on the fact that we've all become insanely hungry for any news/rumors on upcoming armies, and when something comes along purporting to feed that hunger, but in fact, doesn't add anything to the discussion beyond, "I spoke to someone who spoke to someone, and, um.. I think, take the current C: SM, paint models gray, and enjoy", I think the disappointment is understandable. SW's not keen on drop-podding? Really?

aka_mythos wrote:We don't know what rules the units have or anything really.

Basically, you summed up the disappointment in a nutshell: We didn't learn anything new really.