The Forgeworld 2017 News & Rumors Thread

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**nordsturmking**

BoLS posted this:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/06/fw-imperial-armour.html
If you take a look at the Dimachaerons Grasping Talons it doubles its strenght after wounding. I think this is a error cuz that would make no sense right?

**K177Y**

Does anyone have the datasheets for Malakim Phoros? I was looking over all the leaks but couldn't find that one

**VictorVonTzeentch**

nordsturmking wrote:
BoLS posted this:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/06/fw-imperial-armour.html
If you take a look at the Dimachaerons Grasping Talons it doubles its strenght after wounding. I think this is a error cuz that would make no sense right?

My guess would be that yeah its an error and they meant 6+ hit.

**JohnnyHell**

Looks like a wording error, should be to hit rolls of 6+

What are FW like with shipping preorders? Will my book hit my doormat tomorrow or will someone slouch to the post office in Nottingham and pay for third class post tomorrow instead?

**gungo**

depends on what shipping option you paid.

**NivlacSupreme**

Eldar Vampire Hunter wrote:
Hey everyone, just got back from taking a brief look at both unreleased indices at Warhammer world. Happy to answer questions about anything I can remember if you guys are interested.

To start with some highlights - the Heirophant is 90 power, 50 wounds, toughness 9. It has two bio-cannons that are S10 AP-2 with six shots each and 2D6 damage. They're also macro weapons, so that damage is doubled vs titanic enemies.

Both Heirodules are T8 22W and around 21 power. I believe the barbed Heirodule has identical guns to the Heirophant except with only 1d6 damage - they might also not be macro, I'm not sure. Don't remember the details of their melee, but they have a special set of scything talons that are called 'gargantuan scything talons' or something similar.

The Phantom titan is T9 with 60 wounds. It's closer to the reaver than the Warlord in price, around 140ish power IIRC. The Revenant is more like 60 power, so cheaper than the Warhound now. Its pulsars get 2d6 S16 shots each. I didn't see the stats for the sonic lances, unfortunately.

The most detailed look I got was at the Dark Eldar stuff. Tantalus is 350 points w/ all gear. It's T7, has 18 wounds and 2 6-shot disintegrators. It's also S8 AP-2 in melee with 6 attacks. It can transport 16 models, and if your warlord is on board all Drukhari in LOS get to use his leadership as long as they aren't in cover. The reaper is 150 points all in. It has one gun that can fire either d6 darklance shots or 2d6 S6 AP0 shots - either way, if you hit the target can't advance. Also has a shock-prow equivalent by a different name for free.

Did you see any Death Korps stuff?

**spiralingcadaver**

Eldar Vampire Hunter wrote:
Hey everyone, just got back from taking a brief look at both unreleased indices at Warhammer world. Happy to answer questions about anything I can remember if you guys are interested.

Anything you remember of the Renegade Marauder squads?

**Eldar Vampire Hunter**

NivlacSupreme wrote:

Did you see any Death Korps stuff?

Yup. They get army-wide ignore shooting casualties for morale. Grenadiers still exist and retain HS lasguns and 4+ armour. They have 7 different orders to choose from - one makes lasguns pistol 2, one makes them attack once in CC after dying and the other five are vanilla guard orders I think.

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spiralingcadaver wrote:
Anything you remember of the Renegade Marauder squads?

They come in squads of 5+ like normal, max 2 special weapons. Autopass morale on a 2+ regardless of modifiers, but if you roll a 1 the whole squad flees. Can take up to 2 brutes, but I don't remember the stats for them.

**Dakka Flakka Flame**

Thanks for the info, Eldar Vampire Hunter.

**Platuan4th**

Did you get a peak at the Thunderer?

Thanks!

**NivlacSupreme**

Eldar Vampire Hunter wrote:
NivlacSupreme wrote:

Did you see any Death Korps stuff?

Yup. They get army-wide ignore shooting casualties for morale. Grenadiers still exist and retain HS lasguns and 4+ armour. They have 7 different orders to choose from - one makes lasguns pistol 2, one makes them attack once in CC after dying and the other five are vanilla guard orders I think.

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spiralingcadaver wrote:
Anything you remember of the Renegade Marauder squads?

They come in squads of 5+ like normal, max 2 special weapons. Autopass morale on a 2+ regardless of modifiers, but if you roll a 1 the whole squad flees. Can take up to 2 brutes, but I don't remember the stats for them.

They just ignore them?

1) GW lied
2) That's better than before. It was just ignoring 25% IIRC

**Tautastic**

Eldar Vampire Hunter wrote:
Hey everyone, just got back from taking a brief look at both unreleased indices at Warhammer world. Happy to answer questions about anything I can remember if you guys are interested.

How about Eldar Shadow Spectre and their Phoenix Lord and Hornets?

**spiralingcadaver**

NivlacSupreme wrote:
Eldar Vampire Hunter wrote:
NivlacSupreme wrote:

Did you see any Death Korps stuff?

Yup. They get army-wide ignore shooting casualties for morale. Grenadiers still exist and retain HS lasguns and 4+ armour. They have 7 different orders to choose from - one makes lasguns pistol 2, one makes them attack once in CC after dying and the other five are vanilla guard orders I think.

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spiralingcadaver wrote:
Anything you remember of the Renegade Marauder squads?

They come in squads of 5+ like normal, max 2 special weapons. Autopass morale on a 2+ regardless of modifiers, but if you roll a 1 the whole squad flees. Can take up to 2 brutes, but I don't remember the stats for them.

They just ignore them?

1) GW lied
2) That's better than before. It was just ignoring 25% IIRC

They used to just not recover, at least in the tyrant's legion version and I thought the renegades one was about the same. It was pretty terrible. The new version is kinda' lame in that one or two kills could lose the unit instead of 1/6 chance of losing one guy or maybe not any depending on their LD, but I guess it could be better if they take heavy casualties. A weird inverse risk thing where it's worse to lose fewer guys but better losing more.

**zreef**

Does the Knight Atropos have the Mechanicus keyword? Does it differ much from the Dark Mechanicus data sheet?

**xerxeshavelock**

I don't like pestering people with questions, but since you offered - any news on the T'au Piranha?

**Alpharius**

I can't wait for these books to get released so that this thread can return to what passes for normal in it!

**spiralingcadaver**

Oh, also, I forgot: thanks, EHV, for the info!

**Goobi2**

Eldar Titan Holofields!?

**Eldar Vampire Hunter**

Spectres, Hornets, Thunderer, Titan Holofields I didn't see unfortunately. Atropos is mechanicus, I'm 90% sure. Porphyron is for sure but I skipped most of the knight/titan stuff since the chaos index is a thing and I only had so long to look at both books.

**luke1705**

JohnnyHell wrote:
Looks like a wording error, should be to hit rolls of 6+

What are FW like with shipping preorders? Will my book hit my doormat tomorrow or will someone slouch to the post office in Nottingham and pay for third class post tomorrow instead?

I pre-ordered the Chaos and Astartes indices. Got a shipping notice on Saturday and by Wednesday it was on my doorstep (east coast USA, so that's probably a little optimistic for a time frame estimate but was still pretty good)

**Kharne the Befriender**

EVH, did you manage to see any Necron stuff?

**luke1705**

8 more hours for the east cost Kharn. So close yet so ar

**Kharne the Befriender**

luke1705 wrote:
8 more hours for the east cost Kharn. So close yet so far

I know, the suspense is real

**Eldar Vampire Hunter**

Kharne the Befriender wrote:
EVH, did you manage to see any Necron stuff?

I saw a little, but it was the first thing I read so unfortunately I only remember fragments. The Pylon has a great gun, but annoyingly -1bs against non-flying targets. Sentry Pylons look like they'll be great anti-vehicle, but I'm not a Necron player so ymmv. Both characters are 10 power so expect them to be pretty powerful - I don't remember anything of the stats/abilities though, sorry.

**Kharne the Befriender**

Eldar Vampire Hunter wrote:
Kharne the Befriender wrote:
EVH, did you manage to see any Necron stuff?

I saw a little, but it was the first thing I read so unfortunately I only remember fragments. The Pylon has a great gun, but annoyingly -1bs against non-flying targets. Sentry Pylons look like they'll be great anti-vehicle, but I'm not a Necron player so ymmv. Both characters are 10 power so expect them to be pretty powerful - I don't remember anything of the stats/abilities though, sorry.

Not a problem, thank you for that information, it does give me an idea on power range

**ncshooter426**

Looking forward to using my warhound and (under construction) tantalus soon

**Arachnofiend**

The Maynarkh Dynasty used to have rules that let you take Flayed Ones as troops, I wonder if that has been preserved in the new keyword system.

**Kharne the Befriender**

Arachnofiend wrote:
The Maynarkh Dynasty used to have rules that let you take Flayed Ones as troops, I wonder if that has been preserved in the new keyword system.

I don't think they will, It looks like it's just going to be the rules for the models. My guess is that Kutlakh and Toholk will have abilities that affect Maynarkh units, but that's about it

**Requizen**

Kutlakh will probably have a buff to Flayed Ones. His sword was Instant Death in the last edition, I wonder what that will translate to now.

Toholk's thing was that he gave vehicles IWND (and I think he had a slightly better gun or something?). If he buffs Doomsday Arks he might just become an auto-include.

**skarsol**

luke1705 wrote:
8 more hours for the east cost Kharn. So close yet so ar

Last weekend it was available at midnight UK time, so only a bit over 1 more hour.