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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 13:34:21
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Does anyone have the datasheet for the Warlord titan?
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"I have traveled trough the Realm of Death and brought back novelty pencils"
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
the band is playing somewhere and somewhere hearts are light,and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout but there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has struck out. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 13:38:24
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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Not until Saturday when they release it in the AM book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 13:56:38
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 14:13:48
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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S-s-se-SEVENTY WOUNDS?!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 14:13:50
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Thank you
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"I have traveled trough the Realm of Death and brought back novelty pencils"
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
the band is playing somewhere and somewhere hearts are light,and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout but there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has struck out. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 14:26:24
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Whoops... wrong thread... sorry...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 14:29:32
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Yea... it is the largest 40k model you can field and the second largest Imperial Titan (I think). Pretty sure it needs to be stacked with wounds to reflect the absurd durability of it.
Plus, that seems like a lot, but it how many points again?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 14:30:45
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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em_en_oh_pee wrote: Yea... it is the largest 40k model you can field and the second largest Imperial Titan (I think). Pretty sure it needs to be stacked with wounds to reflect the absurd durability of it. Plus, that seems like a lot, but it how many points again? One can infer that its 4000 points, assuming that points = PL * 20. Without equipment.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/06/22 14:31:22
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 14:36:55
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Dakka Veteran
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CthuluIsSpy wrote: em_en_oh_pee wrote:
Yea... it is the largest 40k model you can field and the second largest Imperial Titan (I think). Pretty sure it needs to be stacked with wounds to reflect the absurd durability of it.
Plus, that seems like a lot, but it how many points again?
One can infer that its 4000 points, assuming that points = PL * 20. Without equipment.
That would be a correct inference, except with the caveat that all its equipment costs 0, which is... weird... since it implies every option is equally good, but whatevs, I'll never use it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 14:41:14
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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skarsol wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote: em_en_oh_pee wrote:
Yea... it is the largest 40k model you can field and the second largest Imperial Titan (I think). Pretty sure it needs to be stacked with wounds to reflect the absurd durability of it.
Plus, that seems like a lot, but it how many points again?
One can infer that its 4000 points, assuming that points = PL * 20. Without equipment.
That would be a correct inference, except with the caveat that all its equipment costs 0, which is... weird... since it implies every option is equally good, but whatevs, I'll never use it. 
Huh, that is weird. I guess they didn't want to make the titans more expensive.
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 14:44:40
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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More likely they're doing what they did in the past and left all the options as free rather than balance them because they don't expect it to matter at the points levels these things will be played at.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 14:46:24
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Angelic Adepta Sororitas
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anyone have the datasheet for the Tarantula Sentry Turret? Want to know if it still has 7th sentry gun rules...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 15:26:31
Subject: Re:Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Fresh-Faced New User
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 15:44:28
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's worth noting the Tarantulas are also hilariously cheap, point wise.
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Blood Angels, Custodes, Tzeentch, Alpha Legion, Astra Militarum, Deathwatch, Thousand Sons, Imperial Knights, Tau, Genestealer Cult.
I have a problem.
Being contrary for the sake of being contrary doesn't make you unique, it makes you annoying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 15:59:44
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Angelic Adepta Sororitas
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Thank you! fast attack choice as well? A good tax unit for a brigade detachment! Twin Lascannon may be a bit to many points for a T% four wound model though, think ill stick with the heavy bolters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 16:02:41
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Dakka Veteran
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Okay, I'll bite. Why is an immobile gun battery "Fast Attack"?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 16:19:38
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Dakka Veteran
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skarsol wrote:Okay, I'll bite. Why is an immobile gun battery "Fast Attack"? 
Previously, they were Heavy Support but had Deep Striking capabilities. Now? Someone probably messed up.
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~5000 points of IG and DKoK
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 16:37:52
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Yeah, they used to be able to boy deep strike and camo as kind of a forward turret/advance thing (so fast, which they were then too, kind of made sense). Now, yeah, fast doesn't make much sense.
They're pretty spectacularly cheap for their durability, and always have been.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 16:58:57
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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I believe they are fast attack coices in the HH. It reduces the strain on the very crowded heavy support section. Lets face it, given the options in the heavy support section, would you ever choose a tarantula sentry gun?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 17:14:21
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Horrible Hekatrix With Hydra Gauntlets
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Hey everyone, just got back from taking a brief look at both unreleased indices at Warhammer world. Happy to answer questions about anything I can remember if you guys are interested.
To start with some highlights - the Heirophant is 90 power, 50 wounds, toughness 9. It has two bio-cannons that are S10 AP-2 with six shots each and 2D6 damage. They're also macro weapons, so that damage is doubled vs titanic enemies.
Both Heirodules are T8 22W and around 21 power. I believe the barbed Heirodule has identical guns to the Heirophant except with only 1d6 damage - they might also not be macro, I'm not sure. Don't remember the details of their melee, but they have a special set of scything talons that are called 'gargantuan scything talons' or something similar.
The Phantom titan is T9 with 60 wounds. It's closer to the reaver than the Warlord in price, around 140ish power IIRC. The Revenant is more like 60 power, so cheaper than the Warhound now. Its pulsars get 2d6 S16 shots each. I didn't see the stats for the sonic lances, unfortunately.
The most detailed look I got was at the Dark Eldar stuff. Tantalus is 350 points w/ all gear. It's T7, has 18 wounds and 2 6-shot disintegrators. It's also S8 AP-2 in melee with 6 attacks. It can transport 16 models, and if your warlord is on board all Drukhari in LOS get to use his leadership as long as they aren't in cover. The reaper is 150 points all in. It has one gun that can fire either d6 darklance shots or 2d6 S6 AP0 shots - either way, if you hit the target can't advance. Also has a shock-prow equivalent by a different name for free.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 17:15:15
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Dakka Veteran
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The books come out in ~6 hours, so we should have hard answers pretty soon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 17:17:53
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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I'm happy to see that 21 power is about 25% lower than a Wraithknight with only 2 fewer wounds.Looks like no more arbitrarily high points value for basically the same statline!
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Do you remember anything about defensive abilities of the big Nids? Do they still get anything like FNP or an invuln?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 17:26:24
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Horrible Hekatrix With Hydra Gauntlets
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xttz wrote:
Do you remember anything about defensive abilities of the big Nids? Do they still get anything like FNP or an invuln?
I remember they had a bunch of extra biomorphs I didn't read up on, but not what those were. Fairly sure the Heirophant at least has a FnP of sorts and/or some kind of spore cloud, and all 3 can have bio-plasma. I think the big guy might have the option for a transport capacity as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 17:29:00
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Eldar Vampire Hunter wrote:Hey everyone, just got back from taking a brief look at both unreleased indices at Warhammer world. Happy to answer questions about anything I can remember if you guys are interested.
To start with some highlights - the Heirophant is 90 power, 50 wounds, toughness 9. It has two bio-cannons that are S10 AP-2 with six shots each and 2D6 damage. They're also macro weapons, so that damage is doubled vs titanic enemies.
Both Heirodules are T8 22W and around 21 power. I believe the barbed Heirodule has identical guns to the Heirophant except with only 1d6 damage - they might also not be macro, I'm not sure. Don't remember the details of their melee, but they have a special set of scything talons that are called 'gargantuan scything talons' or something similar.
The Phantom titan is T9 with 60 wounds. It's closer to the reaver than the Warlord in price, around 140ish power IIRC. The Revenant is more like 60 power, so cheaper than the Warhound now. Its pulsars get 2d6 S16 shots each. I didn't see the stats for the sonic lances, unfortunately.
The most detailed look I got was at the Dark Eldar stuff. Tantalus is 350 points w/ all gear. It's T7, has 18 wounds and 2 6-shot disintegrators. It's also S8 AP-2 in melee with 6 attacks. It can transport 16 models, and if your warlord is on board all Drukhari in LOS get to use his leadership as long as they aren't in cover. The reaper is 150 points all in. It has one gun that can fire either d6 darklance shots or 2d6 S6 AP0 shots - either way, if you hit the target can't advance. Also has a shock-prow equivalent by a different name for free.
Did you see much about the Necron stuff?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 17:29:11
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Tunneling Trygon
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skarsol wrote:The books come out in ~6 hours, so we should have hard answers pretty soon.
OH MY GOODNESS IT'S FRIDAY NOT SATURDAY
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 17:34:34
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Eldar Vampire Hunter wrote:Hey everyone, just got back from taking a brief look at both unreleased indices at Warhammer world. Happy to answer questions about anything I can remember if you guys are interested.
To start with some highlights - the Heirophant is 90 power, 50 wounds, toughness 9. It has two bio-cannons that are S10 AP-2 with six shots each and 2D6 damage. They're also macro weapons, so that damage is doubled vs titanic enemies.
Both Heirodules are T8 22W and around 21 power. I believe the barbed Heirodule has identical guns to the Heirophant except with only 1d6 damage - they might also not be macro, I'm not sure. Don't remember the details of their melee, but they have a special set of scything talons that are called 'gargantuan scything talons' or something similar.
The Phantom titan is T9 with 60 wounds. It's closer to the reaver than the Warlord in price, around 140ish power IIRC. The Revenant is more like 60 power, so cheaper than the Warhound now. Its pulsars get 2d6 S16 shots each. I didn't see the stats for the sonic lances, unfortunately.
The most detailed look I got was at the Dark Eldar stuff. Tantalus is 350 points w/ all gear. It's T7, has 18 wounds and 2 6-shot disintegrators. It's also S8 AP-2 in melee with 6 attacks. It can transport 16 models, and if your warlord is on board all Drukhari in LOS get to use his leadership as long as they aren't in cover. The reaper is 150 points all in. It has one gun that can fire either d6 darklance shots or 2d6 S6 AP0 shots - either way, if you hit the target can't advance. Also has a shock-prow equivalent by a different name for free.
Orks?
Gargatuan squiggoth
Kustom stompa
Zhardsnark
Buzzgrob
14 datasheets listed in index yet 19 listed on site any idea what the odd 5 are? mega dread? multiple killtanks? some long OOP model?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 17:36:10
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Horrible Hekatrix With Hydra Gauntlets
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The Pylon has a great gun, but is -1 to hit versus grounded units. -.-
Aside from that, there were a bunch of cool anti-armour options (which I think is a weakness for the Necrons rn? Don't play them but that's what I've heard) but I don't recall a whole lot about them. Sentry pylons looked great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 17:38:57
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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What is wrong with their brains?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 17:39:42
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Horrible Hekatrix With Hydra Gauntlets
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gungo wrote:
Orks?
Gargatuan squiggoth
Kustom stompa
Zhardsnark
Buzzgrob
14 datasheets listed in index yet 19 listed on site any idea what the odd 5 are? mega dread? multiple killtanks? some long OOP model?
Gargantuan Squiggoth is relatively cheap, like 400ish points, and has a ton of wounds - something like 44 iirc. Mediocre armour/toughness to compensate, though. The Kustom Stompa is in there, but I didn't look at it long enough to remember anything else. Lifta-droppa wagon gets D6 autohit shots, roll over the opponents strength on 3D6 to do a mortal wound. I presume the Stompa's is the same, but I can't confirm. Chinork is a dedicated transport now. Unfortunately that's all I got time to look at, but we'll know the rest of the details in a few hours.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/22 17:41:11
Subject: Forgeworld News & Rumors - p. 70 Xenos 8th edition updates & bundles
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Eldar Vampire Hunter wrote:
The Pylon has a great gun, but is -1 to hit versus grounded units. -.-
Aside from that, there were a bunch of cool anti-armour options (which I think is a weakness for the Necrons rn? Don't play them but that's what I've heard) but I don't recall a whole lot about them. Sentry pylons looked great.
I'm just mor3 curious on the Overlord character. Khutlakh I think is how the name is spelled?
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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