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Samus_aran115 wrote:

mikhaila wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:My sentiments exactly. If I want to use IG cadians as hormagaunts,who's gonna stop me? I don't play tournaments and never will, so why bother buying so many models,except for aesthetic reasons?

No one here disagrees with you.

Mainly because the topic was WYSIWYG at Tounaments.
Since , as you say, you don't play tournaments, no one really cares what you do.

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Ah,I see. No need to be rude.

Sorry, wasn't trying to be, but that did come out badly. I'm taking breaks from a marathon night of fill-in-monthly-orderforms.( I hate monthlies. Typeing quick and not proofreading.

That should have been more like "At home, or with friends. no one should hassle you about how you play, or what you play with".

Hacksaaw wrote:much of this just isnt set in stone. My looters are a motley mix of looted weapons and modified shootas with scopes and extended barrels. would that satisfy you?

When you have what is clearly not a normal model that's a good start. I'm not going to look at that unit and think it's a mob of regular boyz, not giving it a second glance.

Where as, a unit of boyz used as ard boyz is a problem - they look like a perfectly normal mob of boyz, why would I question that and even consider that they might be ard boyz?

Using non-standard models is ok - using a normal model as something else is not. Doubly so when it's something the unit could have (like a big shooter counts-as deffgun)

I prefer to play with at least assembled models on the table. WYSIWYG can be an issue, especially with rules changes.
Point in case, My Squats. I had modified several heavy bolters with longer barrels and muzzle brakes/flash suppressors to use as autocannons. 5th ed came out and suddenly SM Scouts cannot field autocannons. However they still look like modded heavy bolters so that is what I am using them as.

This 'discussion' (argument) has now gone on for 9 pages I would have thought the answer was fairly simple.

In a tournament where the rules clearly stipulate no proxies and WYSIWYG then you can only use upgrades that are shown on the model, basic equipment (such as frag grenades for marines) for the unit is stated in each Codex and if there is no option to not take it then it does not need to be modelled.

If a unit is not produced by GW such as TWC then you may not be able to take it at a tournament but if you are then it is essential that to the best of your ability it is WYSIWYG.

In answer to the IG vets carapace armour question then use the same logic as used with conscripts - Cadian conscripts have a white stripe on the helmet, let Vets have a red stripe or whatetever colour you want to represent Vets as long as it is consistant no TO or opponent is going to have a problem with it.

Orks 'Ard Boyz there is an upgrade kit made by GW unfortunately this means that most people will insist you use is. It is exactly the same as the difference between Terminator Armour and Power Armour.

Extra Armour on vehicles is an upgrade that can be modeled but ultimately that is why you have an army list.

In friendly games WYSIWYG does not matter the only people that need to be happy are you and your opponent if he is fine with proxies etc then he will play you if he/she isn't then they won't.

Simples

Yeah,that sounds like a thread closer to me. ^>^