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@ Necrosis: Maybe fluff wise they would be slightly more similar to marines, but still, they could be set up to play totally different.

I mean, for the fluff, the Word Bearers started worshiping the Emperor as a god, but when he told them to stop, they switched over to gods who needed their worship. These Chaos Sisters could have been trying to protect some planet or something, prayed to the emperor, but when they failed to win, they beleived he failed them, so switched to the Dark Gods.

I mean, if the Blood Angels and the Necrons are friendly now, this wouldn't be too farfetched.

WARBOSS TZOO wrote:
No, I was thinking foot soldiers. What you're talking is basically Rough Riders in power armour.

I think some really cool Power Sword or Eviscerator with Shield, Knight looking Sisters would be a nice unit. Give them something with a CC edge in the Elite slot.

Exactly this, and I could have sword I'd seen it around the site before.

Mel had a retinue choice for it.

I think it could become a really iconic new unit. Sword and Shield Sisters. Name them Palatians. (Paladin rip off. )

Make them fearless as a downside. 3+/4+, WS4, Str3. Furious Charge.

WARBOSS TZOO wrote:

I think some really cool Power Sword or Eviscerator with Shield, Knight looking Sisters would be a nice unit. Give them something with a CC edge in the Elite slot.

Exactly this, and I could have sword I'd seen it around the site before.

I wrote up a Terminator squad intended to be very much the knight/Paladin archetype that was called "Terminator Redemptors" when I was starting the fluff for my DA Successor(before the name got changed from "Order of the Redeeming Blades" to the current incarnation of "Order of the Grey Blade"). Maybe that's where you saw it?

Slarg232 wrote:@ Necrosis: Maybe fluff wise they would be slightly more similar to marines, but still, they could be set up to play totally different.

I mean, for the fluff, the Word Bearers started worshiping the Emperor as a god, but when he told them to stop, they switched over to gods who needed their worship. These Chaos Sisters could have been trying to protect some planet or something, prayed to the emperor, but when they failed to win, they beleived he failed them, so switched to the Dark Gods.

I mean, if the Blood Angels and the Necrons are friendly now, this wouldn't be too farfetched.

If they failed they would fight to the last person. Also they would believe that they failed him not the other way around.

Damn blood angels, screwing up the fluff and making everything seem possible.

If you're trying to get Sisters away from being Femmarines putting them on bikes isn't the best way to go about it.

And I'd make it a halberd, personally. Spears are only really useful as anything more than a blunt weapon on the charge, but you can cut with a halberd.

They shouldn't be able to take anything they want from the IG codex......"lolol,I'm gonna take 4 leman russes in my sisters army, and a couple of ogryns too,lolol"

Actually,I don't really understand this rule too much. It refers to "basic troops",but what does that even mean? Can you only take troop choices? IG really doesn't have a basic troop (except maybe cadians or catachans,but idk)

Space marines are obvious, but you can't let sm's work in a sisters army (which makes that option useless,considering the non-sisters choices are crap)

Necrosis wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:@ Necrosis: Maybe fluff wise they would be slightly more similar to marines, but still, they could be set up to play totally different.

I mean, for the fluff, the Word Bearers started worshiping the Emperor as a god, but when he told them to stop, they switched over to gods who needed their worship. These Chaos Sisters could have been trying to protect some planet or something, prayed to the emperor, but when they failed to win, they beleived he failed them, so switched to the Dark Gods.

I mean, if the Blood Angels and the Necrons are friendly now, this wouldn't be too farfetched.

If they failed they would fight to the last person. Also they would believe that they failed him not the other way around.

Damn people reading what they want into background, screwing up the fluff and making everything seem possible.

The Necron/Blood Angels thing never made it seem like they were "friendly".
They ignored each other while fighting the same foe. Friends and allies that doesn't make.

Otherwise, Orks ally with Tyranids all the time!

pretre wrote:Mel had a retinue choice for it.

Technically mine were Crusaders, which are a rip of an Inquisition retinue unit... heh.

Necrosis wrote:

pretre wrote:
No.

Veteran Seraphim are an elite group of Seraphim.

Venerable Seraphim are a really old group of Seraphim.

Look up what Venerable means.

Well if you don't believe me go read faith and fire.

In that book Venerable Seraphims are an elite group of Seraphims.

Two things:

1) I'm wrong about what Venerable means. 'Calling forth respect through age, character and attainments'. I had always based it off of age.
2) He only uses the word Venerable once in the book and it is an adjective to describe the Seraphim, not their actual unit name.

I could have sworn he mentioned them twice.

Samus_aran115 wrote:They shouldn't be able to take anything they want from the IG codex......"lolol,I'm gonna take 4 leman russes in my sisters army, and a couple of ogryns too,lolol"

Actually,I don't really understand this rule too much. It refers to "basic troops",but what does that even mean? Can you only take troop choices? IG really doesn't have a basic troop (except maybe cadians or catachans,but idk)

Space marines are obvious, but you can't let sm's work in a sisters army (which makes that option useless,considering the non-sisters choices are crap)

They can't take anything they want. Read Codex: Witch Hunters.

IG can take a few sisters as allies (limited to choice). Sisters can take a few IG as allies (limited to choice).

Kanluwen wrote:

WARBOSS TZOO wrote:

I think some really cool Power Sword or Eviscerator with Shield, Knight looking Sisters would be a nice unit. Give them something with a CC edge in the Elite slot.

Exactly this, and I could have sword I'd seen it around the site before.

I wrote up a Terminator squad intended to be very much the knight/Paladin archetype that was called "Terminator Redemptors" when I was starting the fluff for my DA Successor(before the name got changed from "Order of the Redeeming Blades" to the current incarnation of "Order of the Grey Blade"). Maybe that's where you saw it?

I don't think so, it was about the Sisters. I'm pretty sure it was Melissia's retinue squad. Sounds pretty cool though. Did you convert models for them?

Necrosis wrote:I could have sworn he mentioned them twice.

I just Ctrl-F'd my copy of the book. So nope.

pretre wrote:

Necrosis wrote:

pretre wrote:
No.

Veteran Seraphim are an elite group of Seraphim.

Venerable Seraphim are a really old group of Seraphim.

Look up what Venerable means.

Well if you don't believe me go read faith and fire.

In that book Venerable Seraphims are an elite group of Seraphims.

Two things:

1) I'm wrong about what Venerable means. 'Calling forth respect through age, character and attainments'. I had always based it off of age.
2) He only uses the word Venerable once in the book and it is an adjective to describe the Seraphim, not their actual unit name.

LOL,this made me think of grandma seraphims

Well I still think sisters should have an elite version of Seraphims.

WARBOSS TZOO wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

WARBOSS TZOO wrote:

I think some really cool Power Sword or Eviscerator with Shield, Knight looking Sisters would be a nice unit. Give them something with a CC edge in the Elite slot.

Exactly this, and I could have sword I'd seen it around the site before.

I wrote up a Terminator squad intended to be very much the knight/Paladin archetype that was called "Terminator Redemptors" when I was starting the fluff for my DA Successor(before the name got changed from "Order of the Redeeming Blades" to the current incarnation of "Order of the Grey Blade"). Maybe that's where you saw it?

I don't think so, it was about the Sisters. I'm pretty sure it was Melissia's retinue squad. Sounds pretty cool though. Did you convert models for them?

Melissia said it was her 'dex, so that's where

But no, not converted them yet. Can't find suitable right handed greatswords or big enough shields that I'd be comfortable calling "Bulwarks".

The rules are still up in the Proposed Rules section somewhere though, if you're interested in taking a peek. Haven't edited the fluff to reflect the new Chapter name just yet though.

Necrosis wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:@ Necrosis: Maybe fluff wise they would be slightly more similar to marines, but still, they could be set up to play totally different.

I mean, for the fluff, the Word Bearers started worshiping the Emperor as a god, but when he told them to stop, they switched over to gods who needed their worship. These Chaos Sisters could have been trying to protect some planet or something, prayed to the emperor, but when they failed to win, they beleived he failed them, so switched to the Dark Gods.

I mean, if the Blood Angels and the Necrons are friendly now, this wouldn't be too farfetched.

If they failed they would fight to the last person. Also they would believe that they failed him not the other way around.

Damn blood angels, screwing up the fluff and making everything seem possible.

I see what your saying, but no order can screen its members well enough that all of them think the same way. Kanluwen has said that the sisters have fallen in some of the books, so Its not that farfetched of an idea.

Kanluwen, "The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend". Did they attack eachother afterward? Did they radio for back up? But this is neither here, nor there, so I suppose we keep a BA fluff discussion out of this.

Necrosis wrote:Well I still think sisters should have an elite version of Seraphims.

So you want to make an "elite" unit "elite".

Do you not see the ridiculousness of that statement?

You mean, just like Grey Knight Terminators...


... feth it, you mean like Grey Knights, period?

Kanluwen wrote:

Necrosis wrote:Well I still think sisters should have an elite version of Seraphims.

So you want to make an "elite" unit "elite".

Do you not see the ridiculousness of that statement?

Super elite!

I mean, Space Marines are elite right, so Vanguard/Sternguard are EliteSquared. Same thing works for Seraphim

Kanluwen wrote:

Necrosis wrote:Well I still think sisters should have an elite version of Seraphims.

So you want to make an "elite" unit "elite".

Do you not see the ridiculousness of that statement?

Marines are suppose to be elites. Look how many elites, elites they have.
Make them like a honor guard Seraphim or something.

Slarg232 wrote:
Kanluwen, "The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend". Did they attack eachother afterward? Did they radio for back up?

Specifically, it stated that the Blood Angels seemed to ignore the Necrons while they tended to their wounded and recovered the gene-seed from the fallen.
By the time any back-up would have arrived, or the BA would've been in a position to launch an assault, the Necrons could have been long-gone--seeing as how they're raiders that make the Dark Eldar, Alpha Legion and the Night Lords look like amateurs.

Necrosis wrote:Make them like a honor guard[...] or something.

... you mean Celestians?

Necrosis wrote:
Marines are suppose to be elites. Look how many elites, elites they have.
Make them like a honor guard Seraphim or something.

Oooo. What if they Palatians were elite Seraphim instead of ground pounders?

Sword, Shield and awesome winged jump packs!

Melissia wrote:

Necrosis wrote:Make them like a honor guard[...] or something.

... you mean Celestians?

With Jump Packs and special rules.

Damnit, I want the Men in Black!

Why are we here?

Because we are the elite of the elite of the elite!

So just say you want Celestians to have jump packs...

Necrosis wrote:

Melissia wrote:

Necrosis wrote:Make them like a honor guard[...] or something.

... you mean Celestians?

With Jump Packs and special rules.

Yeah...

Paladians

WS/BS 4 S/T3 etc

Can buy JPs or not

Can be a retinue for a Canoness

Get Power Sword and Crusader Shield (4+ invuln)

Furious Charge and Counterattack.

Melissia wrote:So just say you want Celestians to have jump packs...

No, more like ability that work well with jump infantry. Such as re roll scatter. Maybe able to shot their pistols twice or something.

pretre wrote:

Necrosis wrote:
Marines are suppose to be elites. Look how many elites, elites they have.
Make them like a honor guard Seraphim or something.

Oooo. What if they Palatians were elite Seraphim instead of ground pounders?

Sword, Shield and awesome winged jump packs!

Say that you can have two versions of Seraphim. One has twin flamer pistols. One has sword and board.

There are so many cool ways that the Sisters could be expanded, goddamn.