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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 21:57:24
Subject: Re:What To Do About Sisters
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Kanluwen wrote:Slarg232 wrote:
Kanluwen, "The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend". Did they attack eachother afterward? Did they radio for back up?
Specifically, it stated that the Blood Angels seemed to ignore the Necrons while they tended to their wounded and recovered the gene-seed from the fallen.
By the time any back-up would have arrived, or the BA would've been in a position to launch an assault, the Necrons could have been long-gone--seeing as how they're raiders that make the Dark Eldar, Alpha Legion and the Night Lords look like amateurs.
Got me beat there, I got nothing.
Still, Chaos Sisters wouldn't be that bad of an idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 21:57:32
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Or Furious Charge? That works very well with jump infantry's extra movement.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 21:58:16
Subject: Re:What To Do About Sisters
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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Slarg232 wrote:Kanluwen wrote:Slarg232 wrote:
Kanluwen, "The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend". Did they attack eachother afterward? Did they radio for back up?
Specifically, it stated that the Blood Angels seemed to ignore the Necrons while they tended to their wounded and recovered the gene-seed from the fallen.
By the time any back-up would have arrived, or the BA would've been in a position to launch an assault, the Necrons could have been long-gone--seeing as how they're raiders that make the Dark Eldar, Alpha Legion and the Night Lords look like amateurs.
Got me beat there, I got nothing.
Still, Chaos Sisters wouldn't be that bad of an idea.
Khornate countsas Sister Berzerkers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 21:58:28
Subject: Re:What To Do About Sisters
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Calm Celestian
Windsor Ontario Canada
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Slarg232 wrote:Kanluwen wrote:Slarg232 wrote:
Kanluwen, "The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend". Did they attack eachother afterward? Did they radio for back up?
Specifically, it stated that the Blood Angels seemed to ignore the Necrons while they tended to their wounded and recovered the gene-seed from the fallen.
By the time any back-up would have arrived, or the BA would've been in a position to launch an assault, the Necrons could have been long-gone--seeing as how they're raiders that make the Dark Eldar, Alpha Legion and the Night Lords look like amateurs.
Got me beat there, I got nothing.
Still, Chaos Sisters wouldn't be that bad of an idea.
Why don't you do a chaos Imperial Guard army being lead by a single chaos sister?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 21:58:34
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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WARBOSS TZOO wrote:
Say that you can have two versions of Seraphim. One has twin flamer pistols. One has sword and board.
There are so many cool ways that the Sisters could be expanded, goddamn.
Damn I hate this thread. Now I want winged angel assault Seraphim.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 21:58:37
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Melissia wrote:You mean, just like Grey Knight Terminators...
... feth it, you mean like Grey Knights, period?
Well, that's one of those weird things.
Grey Knights, yes, are heavily an elite force. There's no Scouts to get in the way there.
It seems like the Grey Knight Terminator squads are just the ones that have more psychic potential and are equipped differently than the rest.
pretre wrote:Super elite!
I mean, Space Marines are elite right, so Vanguard/Sternguard are EliteSquared. Same thing works for Seraphim
I'm not 100% sure about that. Vanguard/Sternguard are just veterans, given better weaponry and a bit more freedom in how they operate.
A better way to have "elite" Seraphim?
Standard Seraphim gear(power armor, jump packs) but with access to things like Inferno Pistols, Power Stakes, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 21:59:12
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Only if Power Stakes didn't suck. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, I dunno... I'm really attracted to the idea of power spears. Perhaps it's from using one for far too long on DoW2's Last Stand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:00:13
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
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I didn't say it would be a good unit, damnit!
I mean, the one time I've attempted to make my own custom unit I got told I overcosted everything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:00:14
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Calm Celestian
Windsor Ontario Canada
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Sisters can't currently even take power stakes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:00:52
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Melissia wrote:Only if Power Stakes didn't suck.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, I dunno... I'm really attracted to the idea of power spears. Perhaps it's from using one for far too long on DoW2's Last Stand.
The problem is only cost. It's just a 2H PW that wounds psykers on a 2+. For 10 pts it would be a deal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:02:43
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Necrosis wrote:Sisters can't currently even take power stakes.
Gee, it's almost like you'd need some kind of new Codex for it...
Melissia wrote:Also, I dunno... I'm really attracted to the idea of power spears. Perhaps it's from using one for far too long on DoW2's Last Stand.
See, I just like the idea of Sisters being the only army that can potentially field "ranked" units ala WHFB.
Units of Sisters armed with Power Spears bracing the spears against the ground or the Immolator parked behind them to receive a charge from a tide of mutants and heretics?
Friggin' awesome mental image.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:04:52
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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Kanluwen wrote:Necrosis wrote:Sisters can't currently even take power stakes.
Gee, it's almost like you'd need some kind of new Codex for it...
Melissia wrote:Also, I dunno... I'm really attracted to the idea of power spears. Perhaps it's from using one for far too long on DoW2's Last Stand.
See, I just like the idea of Sisters being the only army that can potentially field "ranked" units ala WHFB.
Units of Sisters armed with Power Spears bracing the spears against the ground or the Immolator parked behind them to receive a charge from a tide of mutants and heretics?
Friggin' awesome mental image.
Any Sister wielding a power spear is able to attack in the close combat phase as long as they're within four inches of an enemy model, though to be attacked they must be within 2 inches.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:05:53
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Kanluwen wrote:Necrosis wrote:Sisters can't currently even take power stakes.
Gee, it's almost like you'd need some kind of new Codex for it...
Melissia wrote:Also, I dunno... I'm really attracted to the idea of power spears. Perhaps it's from using one for far too long on DoW2's Last Stand.
See, I just like the idea of Sisters being the only army that can potentially field "ranked" units ala WHFB.
Units of Sisters armed with Power Spears bracing the spears against the ground or the Immolator parked behind them to receive a charge from a tide of mutants and heretics?
Friggin' awesome mental image.
ooooh. Ranked units. Have to have some sort of template resistance or you'd get massacred. Either that or make it cost/tactically effective. to sacrifice yourself like that. Automatically Appended Next Post: WARBOSS TZOO wrote:
Any Sister wielding a power spear is able to attack in the close combat phase as long as they're within four inches of an enemy model, though to be attacked they must be within 2 inches.
Stab them for the Emperor!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:06:11
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Calm Celestian
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Power Spears should also give them counter attack. Chances are your going to be able to hit someone with a spear before they can get up close to you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:06:48
Subject: Re:What To Do About Sisters
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Veteran ORC
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YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! I had a double post, but when I edited the one, the other got deleted
Khorne Sisters come when there is plastic.
I have a Seraphim model I am planning on turning into a Lord with a Daemon weapon and wings, no mark decided yet. Blissgiver is my favorite D-weapon though.
People be ignoreing Chaos Sisters, so I will start helping and contributing to the boring, Un-Chaos sisters, who do not have as much fun as their converted brethren. I'll go get my sisters book now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:09:08
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Okay so we're adding
Paladines - Winged Seraphim Assault Sisters
Stabatines - Stabby Power Stake Ranked Sisters.
Throw in 35 pt rhinos and a couple special characters and I'm sold. Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and I want Redemptionists back. Automatically Appended Next Post: With all their standing back up glory.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:10:31
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Calm Celestian
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Yes, Redemptionist should come back.
Does anyone know where I can go find their rules?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:11:57
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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They don't exist anymore.
The last incarnation was called Zealots and was unimpressive. I think I found it on Scribd.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:12:18
Subject: Re:What To Do About Sisters
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Power spears/ rank and file sounds more Grey Knights than sisters to me, to tell the truth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:12:39
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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My own version of Zealots isn't really intended to be Red Redemptionists. I'm actually considering adding a 0-1 special choice for Red Redemptionists, as a variation on Zealots.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:13:41
Subject: Re:What To Do About Sisters
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Calm Celestian
Windsor Ontario Canada
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Slarg232 wrote:YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! I had a double post, but when I edited the one, the other got deleted
If you want you can pm about your chaos sister ideas. I'll be more then glad to talk about it.
As for your double posts. It's best not to edit them at first. Just leave them be and they will usually fix themselves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:14:00
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Not really. They use force weapons that allow them to focus their psychic powers.
Totally different than power weapons.
Although, a sword/board unit there that is made up of what are essentially Chaplains with Librarian powers in Grey?
Yeah. That'd be awesome. Totally not overpowered too
Intended @ Slarg about Grey Knights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:14:14
Subject: Re:What To Do About Sisters
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Calm Celestian
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Slarg232 wrote:Power spears/ rank and file sounds more Grey Knights than sisters to me, to tell the truth.
Grey Knights use halberds not spears.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:14:40
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Most recent Zealot rules
Zealots - 5pts each, 10 pt upgrade char. 10-20 Models
Can't be joined by anything except a priest and can't use vehicles.
Can buy guns (WHY?)
1 in 5 can get upgraded to 2 attacks (5 pts) and get an eviscerator for 15
They can get 1 shot exterminators for 3pts each. (Extra hits at Init 8 based on squad size)
Any negatives to Leadership count as bonuses. Even things like Pariahs and Weaken Resolve.
Upgrade Char can buy 25 pts of Wargear (so now up to 5 hidden eviscerators in the squad, 6 if you put in a priest).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:15:07
Subject: Re:What To Do About Sisters
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
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Necrosis wrote:Slarg232 wrote:Power spears/ rank and file sounds more Grey Knights than sisters to me, to tell the truth.
Grey Knights use halberds not spears.
Not true.
They use "force weapons". The current incarnation has them using halberds, but they've also had swords, hammers, axes, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:15:35
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Calm Celestian
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pretre wrote:Zealots - 5pts each, 10 pt upgrade char. 10-20 Models
Can't be joined by anything except a priest and can't use vehicles.
Can buy guns (WHY?)
1 in 5 can get upgraded to 2 attacks (5 pts) and get an eviscerator for 15
They can get 1 shot exterminators for 3pts each. (Extra hits at Init 8 based on squad size)
Any negatives to Leadership count as bonuses. Even things like Pariahs and Weaken Resolve.
Upgrade Char can buy 25 pts of Wargear (so now up to 5 hidden eviscerators in the squad, 6 if you put in a priest).
That the rules for zealots. I want the rules for Redemptionist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:16:52
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Necrosis wrote:pretre wrote:Zealots - 5pts each, 10 pt upgrade char. 10-20 Models
Can't be joined by anything except a priest and can't use vehicles.
Can buy guns (WHY?)
1 in 5 can get upgraded to 2 attacks (5 pts) and get an eviscerator for 15
They can get 1 shot exterminators for 3pts each. (Extra hits at Init 8 based on squad size)
Any negatives to Leadership count as bonuses. Even things like Pariahs and Weaken Resolve.
Upgrade Char can buy 25 pts of Wargear (so now up to 5 hidden eviscerators in the squad, 6 if you put in a priest).
That the rules for zealots. I want the rules for Redemptionist.
There are none.
Although I would go with those Zealot rules and add FNP/Faithfu, up them to 7 ptsl and call it a day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:17:24
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Kanluwen wrote:Not really. They use force weapons that allow them to focus their psychic powers.
Totally different than power weapons.
Although, a sword/board unit there that is made up of what are essentially Chaplains with Librarian powers in Grey?
Yeah. That'd be awesome. Totally not overpowered too
Intended @ Slarg about Grey Knights.
But they are still weapons with long handles, and GK are more "backs to the wall" than sisters, so it would make more sense to have them have a Rank and File rule over the sisters.
Necrosis wrote:Slarg232 wrote:Power spears/ rank and file sounds more Grey Knights than sisters to me, to tell the truth.
Grey Knights use halberds not spears.
My medieval is a little rusty, but Aren't halberds used to receive charges, more so than spears?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:17:32
Subject: Re:What To Do About Sisters
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Calm Celestian
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Kanluwen wrote:Necrosis wrote:Slarg232 wrote:Power spears/ rank and file sounds more Grey Knights than sisters to me, to tell the truth.
Grey Knights use halberds not spears.
Not true.
They use "force weapons". The current incarnation has them using halberds, but they've also had swords, hammers, axes, etc.
I have yet to see one with a spear though.
My point is that sisters with spear does not equal Grey Knight look a like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/05/26 22:17:57
Subject: What To Do About Sisters
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Slarg232 wrote:Power spears/ rank and file sounds more Grey Knights than sisters to me, to tell the truth.
Why?
Actually it makes more sense for sisters because there are more Sisters in the first place... and therefor they could create a better spear wall and have more need for coordination within a squad...
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