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2011/06/28 21:39:08
Subject: Re:PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
The sword is ..GREAT .. or rather that is a greatsword It looks like it could be from the new deamonhunters ? You did a top job of lenthening him , he now looks much more regal.
The pose is perfect , and it reminds me of this guy
Spoiler:
as for the base , its nice to see , 40k cobbles, you dont get enough cobbles in the grimdark far future The only thing i can suggest for making more 40k ish is the miniatue on top or maybe the base of a lampost. Pretty jealous of your objective marker. Love those chaos renegades.
cant get over the head choice ,it looks so damb good Peter
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2011/06/28 21:49:54
Subject: PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
Sageheart - I think perhaps a little more steam punk might go a long way. I'll have a look at a cheap watch.
Baiyuan - This process is totally different than normal. I usually just show a finished conversion and then a finished paint job. This stage by stage process has some good and bad points. But I'm hoping it will create a better finished product so please be your usual critical self...but with cherries on I don't want to cry ....actually seriously I don't want to cry.
The Sword. It has been suggested that I move it out from the body and further to his right. Since you are trained with the weapon and you probably own one (what some people keep under the bed heh!) any advice you can give me would be great. I do have my heart kinda set on an across body hold though. Let me guess you/no one would ever actually hold a Zweihänder like that .
The bases. I wanted a change, simple as that. I wanted some cobbles and I like the little resin bricks. The part I don't like with these two is how I've pretty much divided the base in half, it looks odd, I'm also not convinced by the sand. There is definitely something missing. These are test pieces so no worries if I dispose of them. I think I might go back to the drawing board and combine my other bases mech parts and replace the flag stones with cobbles and a few scattered bricks instead of corrugated metal sheeting.
As for where I'm going...you remember that background story(lol paragraph) I did for Pimp My Wizard 40k.....
The ship sat solemnly, in stationary orbit, above the dirty smoke grey planetoid,. Lights from the tallest spires stabbed out into space, though they would soon be extinguished by the explosions and flames, boiling up and out of the hives spires. Fire raged over the majority of the planet’s surface, millions would die before the end of the night. The protectors of the Emperor's realm had failed and the planet would not meet its tithe, for centuries to come.
Neil - Indeed it is from the new PA Grey Knights. I wanted the handle for the daemon sword and work up the arms from there. As for the bases yeah somethings missing. Because these models will be for a gaming tournament thing I don't want the bases to be massively ott, so a lamp post might be a little ott. I saw bits and kits had a severed torso and just went with it. When I got it I was hmmmm what can I do with this?...I think it talks to my inquisitor.
As for that guy...lovely picture, one of my favourites. He is the reason for me buying this part and some scout legs:
Spoiler:
Doubt I'll get round to it soon though
Do you have a picture of page 129 from the Dark Heresy Radical's Handbook? (I can't find it online but I know you have skills) That page had my favourite recentish 40k painting on and very much the starting block of this project.
My favourite Inquisitor from 2nd edition Codex Imperialis
jackanory- Hey hey I always enjoy it when you come round to visit . How's it going? You all sorted? You've not been playing in your blog recently . Any new scavvies/mutants on the horizon? Creepy Inquisitors are probably the most important part of the 40k background.
Peter
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2011/06/29 00:19:48
Subject: PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
Hey PDH! Inquisitor is coming along nicely - I don't know much about swordsmanship, but that looks good to me
As to the bases - I know it's WIP, but I reckon your problem might be that the division is too clean! You've got a precise delineation between the cobbles and the dirt / sand, which I reckon might be what's catching as 'wrong' in your mind. If the cobblestones are either damaged / old enough to have bricks thrown up seperate from the rest, I would bury the others a little more, or at least have an overspill of the sand. I'm not sure if you're going for ancient, ruined cobblestone (in which case some moss or or plant life might look good on the finished product) or damaged urban, but I think a bit more weight of earth might help both
I tried to get some pictures to explain what I mean, but I'm coming up blank. Am I making any sense here? Loving where he's going, anyway
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2011/06/29 06:35:03
Subject: Re:PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
Scarper - Yes you made sense. I imagined those bricks having fallen from above. If anyone ever visits Liverpool the Williamson Tunnels are an interesting hours or so http://www.williamsontunnels.com/
This is very much the setting I see. Chasing other heretics through the stone clad spires of a destroyed hive. Some pics of the Williamson Tunnels that show how I envisage the hive:
Peter
2011/06/29 07:26:25
Subject: PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
"Now you're just being silly, everyone knows red paint tastes fasta." - monkeytroll
"Both servers are on different continents so space meteors or thermonuclear war will not be enough take out dakka hopefully." - legoburner
Please remember to tick the "Disable Voting" box, if the pics you are uploading do not deserve votes (ie. early WIP, blurry pics, batreps, ...) Thanks in advance.
2011/06/29 09:00:00
Subject: Re:PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
Scarper - No slip up there... you are being carefully dripped clues. The Inquisition as a whole will not be hunting this Inquisitor for a long time. It depends if chaos is all but defeated. Lets just say when all is revealed it will make little sense (unless you're old enough to remember some of the old background) and some people will accuse me of background heresy.
As for that first pic they are actually stalactites...possibly calcium?
Yggs - Indeed...wish I could have a set of tunnels to scale.... though it would be a pain to play through. My hand doesn't fit in the tunnel....I cannot get my model in, his banner doesn't fit. lol
Peter
2011/06/29 17:40:59
Subject: PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
Have you thought about putting the objective marker on a larger base that would allow the inquisitor to be placed on the same base like a removable figure in a mini-diorama. Also, something ot add could be rats with bionic eyes, or tails, or a camera mounted to their back or something... or just any techy relic junk to drop under foot. You could even build some bits of scaffolding up around the objective, like in the one photo above.
I like how these two are coming along. The back vent is a great touch, too.
A bit of a dull update but I'm much happier with these bases. I get to use cobbles and tech, which will be rusty. Better?
The Good Green - I hadn't thought of that but since this is for actual gaming I don't want to go over board. I think the objective marker should be on a small a base as possible. I'll be adding some sort of recording/scanner device to the right pauldron as it goes along. I'm not generally a massive fan of wildlife on my bases (though my scavvy shaman will have a rat on his base). I do like the idea of some scaffolding but I'm not sure where I'd put it on a 25mm base. Thanks for the input it is really appreciated.
Neil - Then I'd doing the right thing by pulling you in and keeping you hanging....its a TRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peter
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2011/06/30 19:57:47
Subject: PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
They look better Peter , you did a good job of finding a sewer style grate. I prefer the plastic piece on the left to the one on the right , i feel the plastic piece on the right should encroach upon the base from its right hand side to be less symetrical. maybe some wires?
what did you make the cobbles from? and is that hard as nails / liquid nails as the mortar?
2011/06/30 20:10:26
Subject: Re:PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
Much better, I just have to keep telling myself that you wanted to keep them simple for the gaming. As I said, your other bases spoiled us.
Visit my I-munda/Necromunda P&M Blog: Eye for Detail Visit my Infinity P&M Blog: Reckless Abandon Scarper: "That is incredibly detailed...shows an attention to detail that goes beyond anyone you'll fight."
The Good Green: "Ok, That is incredible. Such attention to detail... I'm convinced you would benefit from a straight jacket ;~P Thanks for raising the bar."
PDH: "Yeah Bloody Baiyuan's Bloody eye for detail . Bet he doesn't sig that one"
PDH: "I'm not saying anything that you might sig against me. Made that mistake before!"
PDH: "Thanks for joining Dakka and spoiling us with your work. "
2011/07/01 06:38:12
Subject: Re:PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
neil101 - Great. Phew. The cobbles are made by Willis Finecast, they come in a pack of 4 thick plastic sheets 13cm x 7.5cm (same as the corrugated metal I've used for the scavvies). I got them from my local railway model shop. As for the bits of plastic they were rough bits I had left over from the scavvies. I thought I'd use them since i wasn't sure this was going to work. I'm not that keen on the left one either...I'll try altering it somehow.
Baiyuan - The scavvies bases were for gaming too, on the whole. These are not much different just with less "junk" on them. I wanted to have a change and paint something a little different. This basing is also what I'd use for my Cities of Death themed Imperial Gaurd army (if I ever get round to doing it). I'm looking forward to them painted and the juxtaposition of the low tech bases with 40k figures.
Peter
2011/07/01 10:11:11
Subject: Re:PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
I know they were for playing too and some of them aren't in fact that scenic, but then some others are.
Spoiler:
I'm not meaning to pick at your new direction and I can see the motivation behind it, I just hope you won't go ott with the cobblestone/brickwall vs. techno contrast. Don't get me wrong it's a good old combination, but there has to be a hint of each style in the other, basicly a yinyang thing, not too clean a separation. But by including the slightly modern sewer grates you already made a step towards that.
Maybe if we knew more about the background...
Visit my I-munda/Necromunda P&M Blog: Eye for Detail Visit my Infinity P&M Blog: Reckless Abandon Scarper: "That is incredibly detailed...shows an attention to detail that goes beyond anyone you'll fight."
The Good Green: "Ok, That is incredible. Such attention to detail... I'm convinced you would benefit from a straight jacket ;~P Thanks for raising the bar."
PDH: "Yeah Bloody Baiyuan's Bloody eye for detail . Bet he doesn't sig that one"
PDH: "I'm not saying anything that you might sig against me. Made that mistake before!"
PDH: "Thanks for joining Dakka and spoiling us with your work. "
2011/07/01 14:02:24
Subject: PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
Baiyuan -Hey Mac and Herve Ok Mac's base is scenic. Herve's base is actually for gaming, I wanted him to be as tall as a normal scavvy for game purposes ,so he got a scenic base for gaming.
+ To: Inquisitor Falstaff
+ Priority: Alpha
+ Subject: Death of Lord Mandred
Thank you, brother, for informing me of the death of the lord and master of our cabal. I am deeply saddened by this tragic news. I was surprised to be included on the list of recipients; I have been gone for a long time, nearly sixty years.
While this news distresses me the timing is fortuitous. My quest brings me back, once again, to Imperial space. I still need to make amends for the atrocity at Algea, I have tracked down and punished five of the perpetrators. The final culprit has returned to the Dalthus Sector, no doubt to instigate a nefarious plot to bring about the demise of yet another world. This time (s)he will not be successful, I will finish the hated creature for the blight it has caused.
With auspicious tides I shall arrive in time for the High Conclave.
Regards
Inquisitor Ba’lance
Well I've named the Inquisitor. After the lead singer of the band Coil. I guess a little out of context unless you check out Molotov's Ammo Bunker, Inquisitor on AB, The Helios Succession http://www.ammobunker.org/
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2011/07/29 05:52:55
Subject: PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
sounds awesome! great little story, should we expect to see more. It is really beautifully written, and gives a lot about the character without telling too much and leaving a lot untold, nice!
"Reality is, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"
-Philip K. Dick
Constant Lurker, Slowly getting back into modelling! Someday a P&M Blog link will lurk here!
2011/07/29 06:05:44
Subject: Re:PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
Sageheart - Thank you. Well I suppose you will find out more but that will have to wait until after Molotov's INQvitational tournament next year (for any major developments). If you'd like more of the back story I've been adding that to Pimp My Wizard 40k! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/376647.page
Here is what I've written so far:
Spoiler:
The ship sat solemnly in stationary orbit above the dirty smoke grey planetoid. Lights from the tallest spires stabbed out into space, though they would soon be extinguished by the explosions and flames, boiling up and out of the hives spires. Fire raged over the majority of the planet’s surface, billions would perish before the end of the night. The protectors of the Emperor's realm had failed and the Hive world of Algea would not meet its tithe, for centuries to come.
***
The green glow of the command deck’s holo screen gave the devastation below an odd clinical appearance. The captain stood out of his command throne silent, aghast at the devastation below, the other human bridge crew in a similar state. The only sound on the deck were variously toned chimes, which rang out unanswered. Only the mono-task servitors carried on unmoved, uncaring and oblivious to the billion deaths.
A buzzer sounded and a blue light flashed, this stirred the crew from their communal shock. The captain composed himself, checking various screens around his command throne. He pressed an assortment of buttons and then the gunmetal grey floor plates, under the view screen began to sink. Steam escaped along the plate seams, an unseen engine moving the floor. With a clanking sound of stone hitting metal steps rose from the recess. Moments later a figure in dark blue robes carefully walked up the stairs, through a haze of steam. At the top of the steps he turned and looked at the view screen. He reached into his robes and made adjustments to a control wand and the command deck slowly went back to its original state.
The figure turned from the holo screen and faced the captain. In a low whisper the figure spoke “Regards, Captain Kerrn. Please get the engines online we will want to follow this ship.” Referring to a dataslate he passed to the helmsman. “How is my Master?”
Kerrn replied firmly “Master Navigator this is not your ship to command. You were monitoring the comm, the Inquisitor was almost dead. We teleported him back aboard as his Interrogator ordered. You know he ordered me to stay in stationary orbit above the Governor’s palace”
“I am aware of what happened and your orders Captain.” Turning again to the view screen the navigator stated “I am also aware that the Governor’s Palace no longer exists... What was the delay in reintegrating the Inquisitor and his fellows?”
Ignoring the callous comment Captain Kernn answered the man’s question “Aye it took eleven minutes, the tech priests are uncertain as to why.”
“Is my master in the infirmary? Shall I go to his death bed?” with what was possibly an amused look in his human eyes.
“No, in his chambers, the report of his imminent death was greatly exaggerated. He marched right out of the teleportarium. Apparently his “fellows” were as shocked at the medics. His armour might be damaged, covered in his own blood, and his face a ruin but he is very must alive.”
The navigator walked past the Captain’s throne, leaving the bridge by the gothically arched blast door. In little more than a hoarse whisper he shouted back “Captain, My Master will wish for that ship to be followed. It was the only one to break orbit during the ritual. Get the engines online now; you will get confirmation from the Inquisitor.”
***
The navigator walked down a stark metal corridor, situated on the frigates central deck. The regularly spaced, pale yellow, light from the glow globes illuminated the lonely robed figures. He walked with his hood down, revealing a pale thin face with a black band tied round his forehead. His movements were carefully timed to the throb of the ships power generators coming online. He smiled, knowing Captain Kerrn had ordered the tech priests to start the rituals of awakening. The navigator arrived at a bare metal door, with low gothic numbers stencilled onto the surface. He tapped a code into the numeric pad and the door slowly opened. As the door moved on well oiled tracks, his gloved hands drew his hood up over his head; he knew it was time to hide.
Stepping through the door, out of the maintenance corridor, the ship’s navigator looked up at the ornately detailed, high ceilinged, main corridor, bass reliefs of historic navel victories and radiant commanders, long forgotten, stood watch. This area of the frigate was for visiting dignitaries, so Captain Kerrn had lodged the Inquisitor and his retinue there, twenty two months ago. The navigator could have gone to the Inquisitor’s chambers, as he often did, via the service tunnels; but today he did not have the time to deactivate the sentry guns and other security measures, encircling the Inquisitor’s domain.
Moving past various junctions on his journey to the centre of the ship he walked along the vaulted ostentatious corridor. A work crew saw him coming; his dark blue robes embroidered with constellations, was well known and avoided. The crew stood back against the wall, heads bowed. He knew this was not out of respect but fear, all the crew had heard legends and tales of the navigator mutation. Moving towards them he realised they were a cleanup crew and he took three steps past them before stopping. Looking further down the passage he asked “Crewmen, what are you cleaning from these halls?”
B-blood sire, the visitors have been wounded. W-w-we started outside the teleportarium.”
The navigator nodded and continued walking, hitching up his robe. Through a relatively large quantity of spilled blood trailing towards the Inquisitor’s rooms, already smeared with boot and more interestingly drag marks. The blood was obviously free flowing from grievous wounds, maybe Captain Kerrn was wrong about his master’s condition, though the navigator doubted it.
Following the blood trail to the end of the corridor the navigator stopped at a large wooden double door, taken from the forest world Rodne, stained with fresh blood. Three skulls on a recessed mantle above the arched framed stared down at him. He lifted the large brass knocker, in the image of a saint, and knocked three times. He took a step back and looked up at the vid coders mounted above the door, he even smiled under his hood, though this would have gone unseen by those monitoring him. The central skull above the door hummed into life, a red glow filtered from the lenses, where its eyes would have once been. The skull lifted from the recessed mantle, a plasma pistol incorporated into its neck joint began to charge with a hum. When the pistol had finished charging the skull hovered down to eye level and scanned the navigator’s features. The door opened with a hiss of hydraulics and they entered, the gun skull hovering directly behind the lone man waiting for a signal to release its molten charge.
***
2011/07/29 08:22:26
Subject: Re:PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
PDH... i've been following you scavvy thread a while, which has been inspirational. No i descover you have thi little beauty up and running also... great work, esp the ad mech magus!
Scarper - Its a Nelson sculpt. He has done it again. I hope he is sculpting plastic plague bearers!
monkeytroll - Indeed I do want to see his backside etc. I'd agree that it probably aint pear shaped either....but then if it was wouldn't that be the best/most surprising mutation.
neil101 - You're probably right. I think he has beautiful nipples too...though not quite hairy enough
If he were real I bet his feet would smell like (sorry but I have always wanted to use the Orkmoticon)
Edit - Hmmmm my flag has changed to someplace I'm not
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2011/08/29 04:25:12
Subject: Re:PDH - Odds and Ends - Random 40k and Fantasy Models (very WIP Inquisitor)
I can't wait to see what you come up with. When I saw this model, I think I had about 5 ideas immediately for what I could do with the model. I think I'm going to make a Bull Gorg, and either a Inquisitorial executioner, or maybe reignite my Nurgle Cult with some fat mega-zombie thing!
But I agree, Brian Nelson is doing amazing work and I hope the flow of awesome plastic characters continues at a steady pace, cause it's been a blessing for the =I=munda community.
You can never beat your first time. The second generation is shinier, stronger, faster and superior in every regard save one, and it's an unfair criticism to level, but it simply can't be as original. - Andy Chambers, on the evolution of Games Workshop games