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MagickalMemories wrote:

bhsman wrote:Yes, how dare GW re-release an inferior model used to represent the same unit as it has for decades, when they could have done so much better.

With the above corrections, I think you're getting closer.

Man, just accept that GW wasn't in the mood to spend 10.000 $ on a new dreadnought mould when instead they could just rerelease the old model to see if anybody still wants to buy it.

Personally, I don't mind the Stormraven's looks, as handling it in person may change opinions. On a side note...what is this...chibi? Heresy?

Goddard wrote:Personally, I don't mind the Stormraven's looks, as handling it in person may change opinions. On a side note...what is this...chibi? Heresy?

It's a crappy nickname some have latched onto, it's from a Japanese word for small, diminutive, etc.

And I already ordered a Stormraven model, so I guess I can live with the looks. Actually, with all the sprue options I think it will be a fun project.

Goddard wrote:Personally, I don't mind the Stormraven's looks, as handling it in person may change opinions. On a side note...what is this...chibi? Heresy?

Chibi as in tiny or mini.

The Bjorn model was the first Dread I ever bought, back when GW's metal models had a lot of lead in them... and when there only were two Dread models, that and the Blood Angel one.

I don't see a problem with them re-releasing the old kit as a Direct Only item. Taking up shelf-space with a Wolf-specific plastic kit would've been a waste of time and money.

EDIT: Actualy HMBC, looks like we may have spoken a little too soon.

Not a preview, but good to know they actually did paint it in GK colors for the box.

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bhsman wrote:Yes, how dare GW re-release an inferior model used to represent the same unit as it has for decades, when they could have done so much better.

With the above corrections, I think you're getting closer.

So you're agreeing with me? You don't like the model. That's fine, but don't pass it off as being objective.

Just because it wasn't wrong doesn't mean it was *right*.

So pretty much exactly what you quoted there? GW is far from being in the wrong for re-releasing Bjorn, no matter what you say. I like it when they release plastic kits meant to replace old metal ones as much as the next guy, but this isn't the grave insult you're making it out to be. Get over it.

bhsman wrote:

MagickalMemories wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:

bhsman wrote:Yes, how dare GW re-release an inferior model used to represent the same unit as it has for decades, when they could have done so much better.

With the above corrections, I think you're getting closer.

So you're agreeing with me? You don't like the model. That's fine, but don't pass it off as being objective.

Just because it wasn't wrong doesn't mean it was *right*.

So pretty much exactly what you quoted there? GW is far from being in the wrong for re-releasing Bjorn, get over it.

I think what Eric is saying is , recent years GW have done wonderful jobs on plastic kits.
And it shouldnt be hard to make a model thats better than the re-released Bjorn ( even if its metal )
So its a shame that we dont get something new and awesome?

And what i think: I think GW just have too many left over and dont want to melt them down...

Oh, I would've preferred a plastic kit as well, but getting upset at them putting Bjorn back up on the website? That's like saying they should'nt re-release Doomrider!

bhsman wrote:Oh, I would've preferred a plastic kit as well, but getting upset at them putting Bjorn back up on the website? That's like saying they should'nt re-release Doomrider!

They shouldnt... and god i hope GW have more sense than that. Because

The gist of it represented by the pic:

LunaHound wrote:

bhsman wrote:Oh, I would've preferred a plastic kit as well, but getting upset at them putting Bjorn back up on the website? That's like saying they should'nt re-release Doomrider!

They shouldnt... and god i hope GW have more sense than that. Because

The gist of it represented by the pic:

Welp.


VVV I admit defeat ;_;

bhsman wrote:

Welp.

Surprised me for a sec there! collectors doesnt count. Only a re-release >:"D

It's not a very good view, but the flying stem can be seen. I have heard several people asking for this view. It takes up lots of room on the battlefield, and would be very good for blocking line of sight to a high up place...



I am sorry if this was already posted, skimming through 9 pages of Stormraven posts is hard.

H.B.M.C. wrote:The Bjorn model was the first Dread I ever bought, back when GW's metal models had a lot of lead in them... and when there only were two Dread models, that and the Blood Angel one.

I don't see a problem with them re-releasing the old kit as a Direct Only item. Taking up shelf-space with a Wolf-specific plastic kit would've been a waste of time and money.

Not enough HBMC and I have a similar opinion, but what he said.

the BA battleforce looks awesome, but the stormraven ehhh ehhh idont like it at all.

the dreds are kinda cool, i feel like they could have been done in a more ornate way that would work better with the DC set. Love the heads thou. not feeling the force weapons.

The lists they had as examples of play weren't very good, i found it kinda funny that they didn't put lists up that would actually be used in torties. Such as razorback spam, or DoA lists. Even the lists with lots of dreds and stormravens seemed badly done. myabe that's just me though.

warboss wrote:it shows the scale of the storm raven to a landraider.

Anybody got a pic of the Stormraven beside a Valk?

They nailed the Dreadnoughts, but the Stormraven? Not so much in my opinion. Looks like they slapped Valkyrie wings on a horizontally challenged Land Raider.

Y'know, to this day my biggest problem with the Chibi-Hawk remains that damned awful turret/air intake on the top. The fact that the vehicle has no rear is annoying, and makes it look stupid, but if it had a flat top with no vent/turret, it would at least be an improvement.

bhsman wrote:EDIT: Actualy HMBC, looks like we may have spoken a little too soon.

Not a preview, but good to know they actually did paint it in GK colors for the box.

Ah yes - the box! Of course. I hadn't thought of that.

It is a release for BA's and GK's after all, and they certainly aren't going to re-release it with a different box when the GK Codex comes out.

QFT ^ haha

H.B.M.C. wrote:Y'know, to this day my biggest problem with the Chibi-Hawk remains that damned awful turret/air intake on the top. The fact that the vehicle has no rear is annoying, and makes it look stupid, but if it had a flat top with no vent/turret, it would at least be an improvement.

Apparently the air intake piece isn't required to assemble the model, if it helps.

It's pretty clear from the sprue pics that the intake just sits on top and isn't built in to the top plate, so it will be easy to leave off.

plastictrees wrote:It's pretty clear from the sprue pics that the intake just sits on top and isn't built in to the top plate, so it will be easy to leave off.

correct, you can leave it off. (i looked at the sprues for that very reason) you'll just have a small "V" shape around the vents that are flush with the top but connected to the engine casing.

I haven't been keeping up with the recent codex releases, but Wow that thing is armed just as well, or better than a landraider, and it can fly <shiver>. How many points for one?

ordering mine next week for my GK army. I have no real idea what it's point cost will be, but with the army I am building it should not cost as much.

I wish GW put a pick up of the storm raven with GK colors.

vampyrehntrd wrote:ordering mine next week for my GK army. I have no real idea what it's point cost will be, but with the army I am building it should not cost as much.

I wish GW put a pick up of the storm raven with GK colors.

Click here

H.B.M.C. wrote:I don't see a problem with them re-releasing the old kit as a Direct Only item. Taking up shelf-space with a Wolf-specific plastic kit would've been a waste of time and money.

Heresy, HBMC. Examining the facts, not only would a Wolf-Specific Dread NOT be a waste of time and money, it would in all likelihood be the absolutely most cost-effective and chronologically meaningful plastic kit GW would ever make. And that includes the Jes Goodwin Tactical Marine Sprue from 1998.

Why? Because there is simply nothing, NOTHING, more awesome than cramming the near-mortal remains, likely in a extremely viscous state due to some horrific battlefield injury sustained while choking out some weak-azz pansy alien, of a genetically optimized and philosophically purified warrior (distilled from the greatest traditions of Conan and Viking warriors) into a fictional war machine, built of adamantiumium with a Gatling gun or sun gun as one arm and a monster power claw with an underslung flamethrower as the other arm, whose ancient frame is haunted by the memories and spirits of previously grievously wounded warriors of the same clan.

And the warriors all had pimp beards before they were burned off.

I rest my case, fool.

So the kit isnt released, and we are already talking about how to fix the kit. If I buy one (You dont have a lot of money in highschool AND when you start a guard army) the turret might stay, but they vent goes. No ifs, ands, or buts. The vent is stupid and should have never been attached to the model in the first place.

Tylerkabana wrote:They nailed the Dreadnoughts, but the Stormraven? Not so much in my opinion. Looks like they slapped Valkyrie wings on a horizontally challenged Land Raider.

Also, doesn't this mean there's 2 plastic Dreadnoughts for the Imperials, while Chaos still has to use the metal one or convert?

(Or is GW trying to change it so Chaos is more about the Defiler to make the two forces more different?)

Balance wrote:Also, doesn't this mean there's 2 plastic Dreadnoughts for the Imperials, while Chaos still has to use the metal one or convert?

(Or is GW trying to change it so Chaos is more about the Defiler to make the two forces more different?)

Actually it's... 4, right?

2 dreadnoughts???

LOL

Standard
IronClad
Venerable
Furioso

That doesn't even count Metals and FW... Yes indeed, I surely think the Imperials have more than enough Dreadies. I think the only option now is to start doing pre-heresy models lol

There's 11 Forge World Chaos Dreads(with some being "God-specific" duplicates of a Legion, ex: Nurgle v. Death Guard Dreads) .
10 Forge World Loyalist Dreads(of which, at least 3 are non-Chapter specific)

So they're pretty even on the FW front.

The plastic ones should be pretty easy to convert for Chaos though, shouldn't they?