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DOOMTHUMBS YOU ROCK.Sorry for the capitals but im excited by this thread,its p1ss funny mate.Stay cool buddy and keep up the conversions/scratch builds.
http://www.military-sf.com/MilitaryScienceFiction.htm “Attention citizens! Due to the financial irresponsibility and incompetence of your leaders, Cobra has found it necessary to restructure your nation’s economy. We have begun by eliminating the worthless green paper, which your government has deceived you into believing is valuable. Cobra will come to your rescue and, out of the ashes, will arise a NEW ORDER!”
Its a little primitive at the moment, but almost fully functional.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The photo below is not modelling related. I got a PM telling me this.
How very, very astute of you.
To justify this, pretend they aren't stilts that make me 9.5 feet tall. They are...
the long table edges for my new wargaming table?
Buying that? Ok good.
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Tyranids attract more tang than an astronaut convention. Success is a little more than I already have. Every day, Forever. Until you have nothing.
As Galactic ruler, I promise to be tough but fair. But tough.
"Dangerous terrain where you just die upon rolling a 1 is for sissies. Parts of the board you wont even move your models into because you're physically afraid of being stung by wasps? Welcome to a Tyranid invasion, cue danger music. "
Check out my NSFW Tyranids! Your eyes will burn for days. Team NSFW: Making wargamers deeply uncomfortable since 2011.
Doomthumbs wrote:But this spore.... this spore right here?
This spore has movable tentacles.
This spore has a gigantic maw with stuff digesting inside. (Can you tell I hate salamanders?)
This spore comes direct from the darkest corners of your Jungian psychology.
This spore uses 14 devourer cones as teeth. Bloody, slavering teeth. Open another box of Termagants, because we need more.
Its even got an eye back in there. Yeah, it sees you.
This spore heard you liked Doom of Malantais, dawg, and so it put a Doom of Malantai inside itself.
Ok the pics have vanished. Either way, I have to admit that spod looks really cool. Kuddos
@Lebaron, that seriously made me have to spit a sip of beer back in the bottle for fear of losing it out my nose. Bravo.
@BBL, That sounds both difficult and confusing to model.
Also, I don't really do requests for people that made comments I could perceive as negative towards me.
Maybe if you elaborated more, enticed me over to what a great idea it is?
WYSIWYG doesn't work for me, really. Too many custom funmodels. When I'm playing games. I mostly go with WITYIWTMH or What I Tell You Is What The Model Has. They can also refer to my army sheet for any confusions, but mostly my army is very clear as to what is what.
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Tyranids attract more tang than an astronaut convention. Success is a little more than I already have. Every day, Forever. Until you have nothing.
As Galactic ruler, I promise to be tough but fair. But tough.
"Dangerous terrain where you just die upon rolling a 1 is for sissies. Parts of the board you wont even move your models into because you're physically afraid of being stung by wasps? Welcome to a Tyranid invasion, cue danger music. "
Check out my NSFW Tyranids! Your eyes will burn for days. Team NSFW: Making wargamers deeply uncomfortable since 2011.
2011/05/19 04:27:33
Subject: How to Model and Paint Gobblegooklegrampypants (Potentially NSFW?)
wash-away wrote:
I've gone through the thread and it seams to be coming down to this: a cheap gimmick that's designed to offend and shock people. Since you're taking criticism honestly, I'd say you need to spend more time working on your individual models. Your rush through conversion and units you're not getting any better as a hobbyist or a painter. However, you are more talented at sculpting penises (vagina's are another story)
You're trying, which is something, but thats all it really is. I don't see any progression. I don't see any models painted to TTQ and if they are it's bare minimum.
At this point it's simply to get attention. This thread should have been locked if not for the utter fact that you're sculpting a penis, then for the fact that it has not stayed on topic at all throughout.
I'm going to start a thread dedicated to green stuffing penises on 25mm bases with space marine helmets for balls.
Hey I took the liberty of grading your hate speech. You failed, please see me after class. Wait I know! Lets take something from YOUR gallery and compare it!
Hmmm.... Hey, didn't you say I needed to spend time working on individual models? What about your exactly one guy that isn't painted? What happened? Rushing to troll someone and forgot?
Thats kind of massively hypocritical, don't you think? I think so, anyway. Spend some time on your grammar, punctuation, and capitalization skills as well. It helps people take you seriously.
Seriously, you can't even properly pluralize penis in your above post.
One more thing before I go. You did actually contribute an idea! As you may have glossed over, I usually have a short turnaround time for requests.
This time though, I think I'll just steal the idea so that people will post in your thread that you can't even sculpt an original penis. I think thats a fair bargain for your unsolicited hate?
models from about 3-4 years ago that I didn't finish is still equal to what you have here. When your able to paint better then me I'll take you seriously.
my basic trooper now being the best painted model in the thread.
you solicited be the fact that your posting this to a public forum. your models are offensive immature, and this is the kind of garbage that make people hate websites like this. however the fact that the mods don't care should also warrant that my criticism of your work should be allowed as well, so I see no problem there. whats the difference between pornography and vulgarity and art?
vul·gar
[vuhl-ger] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
characterized by ignorance of or lack of good breeding or taste: vulgar ostentation.
2.
indecent; obscene; lewd: a vulgar work; a vulgar gesture.
3.
crude; coarse; unrefined: a vulgar peasant.
art1
[ahrt] Show IPA
–noun
1.
the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance.
2.
the class of objects subject to aesthetic criteria; works of art collectively, as paintings, sculptures, or drawings: a museum of art; an art collection.
3.
a field, genre, or category of art: Dance is an art.
it looks like you clearly fall under vulgar. as I see nothing of quality, expression, or aesthetically beautiful about your work. show much more strongly a great source of ignorant crude attempts at modeling.l
you criticize my grammar but ignore my original point. your work shows no improvement, quality, or for that matter care for what your doing.
and last but not least since this is an 'art' forum, I believe this is relevant source material. I wouldn't want to be seen as unsporting.
[imb]http://sfist.com/upload/2011/02/danakingart1.jpg?725[/img]
I would also like to note that nothing I posted is a personal attack only referring to your models, where as soon as I said your models are bad you attack me personally.
EDIT: img was broken
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A gun is a medium, a bullet a brush.
2011/05/19 04:31:37
Subject: How to Model and Paint Gobblegooklegrampypants (Potentially NSFW?)
models from about 3-4 years ago that I didn't finish is still equal to what you have here. When your able to paint better then me I'll take you seriously.
Spoiler:
my basic trooper now being the best painted model in the thread.
you solicited be the fact that your posting this to a public forum. dakka dakka has become the 40k 4chan. your models are offensive immature, and this is the kind of garbage that make people hate websites like this. however the fact that the mods don't care should also warrant that my criticism of your work should be allowed as well, so I see no problem there.
you criticize my grammar but ignore my original point. your work shows no improvement, quality, or for that matter care for what your doing.
and last but not least since this is an 'art' forum, I believe this is relevant source material. I wouldn't want to be seen as unsporting.
Spoiler:
I would also like to not that nothing I posted is a personal attack only referring to your models, where as soon as I said your models are bad you attack me personally.
Oh, the irony.
Mate, I'm sorry if you can't wrap your head around the idea of a lictor grinding against Marneus Calgar, but you're just making a fool of yourself at this point.
There are some who walk until their legs fail them and they fall to the ground. I find that respectable.
Then there are those who drag themselves further. I find that admirable.
But seriously some bizarre and funny ideas here, although I don't like the wasp thing mainly because I hate getting stung and I have an irrational fear of them.
Mate, I'm sorry if you can't wrap your head around the idea of a lictor grinding against Marneus Calgar, but you're just making a fool of yourself at this point.
I don't see whats ironic I'm criticizing his modeling saying nothing about him personally.
I'M NOT ATTACKING YOU PERSONALLY, BUT YOU SUCK AND I'M BETTER THAN YOU IN EVERY WAY, NANANANABOOBOO.
again I'm not saying anything about HIM, I'm saying everything about his 'body of work'
But seriously some bizarre and funny ideas here, although I don't like the wasp thing mainly because I hate getting stung and I have an irrational fear of them.
I don't see how criticizing someone who you don't agree with as being a 12 year old. again a personal attack having nothing to do with the models posted.
wash-away wrote:
I don't see whats ironic I'm criticizing his modeling saying nothing about him personally.
How is "you're not worth taking seriously because I feel that I'm better at painting little plastic men" not a personal attack?
Rhetorical, by the way. It totally is a personal attack.
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There are some who walk until their legs fail them and they fall to the ground. I find that respectable.
Then there are those who drag themselves further. I find that admirable.
wash-away wrote:
I don't see whats ironic I'm criticizing his modeling saying nothing about him personally.
How is "you're not worth taking seriously because I feel that I'm better at painting little plastic men" not a personal attack?
Rhetorical, by the way. It totally is a personal attack.
he insulted my gallery from models I posted when I first joined the forum, I was showing him that how I paint now is better and that him calling me hypocritical is something I won't take seriously.
if he wants to actually criticize my models thats fine, attacking me however is not what its about.
So you need to "get even" with him by attacking him back?
Grow up.
There are some who walk until their legs fail them and they fall to the ground. I find that respectable.
Then there are those who drag themselves further. I find that admirable.
Nerivant wrote:So you need to "get even" with him by attacking him back?
Grow up.
I was clarifying my position, nothing I posted is about him as a person and is not an attack. If you can show me where I'm attacking him I'll clarify further.
I am actually enjoying this thread, barring the walls of text. Not to be a back-seat moderator, but This gets pretty annoying when I am looking for content, and get off topic.
Moving along, I actually enjoy seeing this done. Proves a point that You can bash things together and end up with something reasonable even before you apply the green-stuff for seaming things together. I also don't have the budget to do this to my minies, so seeing this makes me happy.
15 successful trades as a buyer;
16 successful trades as a seller;
To glimpse the future, you must look to the past and understand it. Names may change, but human behavior repeats itself. Prophetic insight is nothing more than profound hindsight.
It doesn't matter how bloody far the apple falls from the tree. If the apple fell off of a Granny Smith, that apple is going to grow into a Granny bloody Smith. The only difference is whether that apple grows in the shade of the tree it fell from.
Well, wash-away, while there is one post that really shows your personal attacks, (I do love how you want to 'clarify your position' after each one) it's the fact that you seem to keep coming back at him. There are several people who have pointed out that you seem to be trolling and, again, you only want to 'clarify your position' while still making a go at it. I don't know if you're mad that he called out the only models that were in your gallery at the time or if there's something here that has really upset you that makes you keep coming back but, unless it is CONSTRUCTIVE and not just re-clarifying, I don't think posting again and again will do much good.
To bring the story full circle, it's ok to comment and criticize but don't get butthurt when you get attacked after attacking. It's simple, if you don't like it you can say so without being an ass. If you hate it so much that you can't keep from being an ass, there's other places you could go.
LeBaron wrote:Well, wash-away, while there is one post that really shows your personal attacks, (I do love how you want to 'clarify your position' after each one) it's the fact that you seem to keep coming back at him. There are several people who have pointed out that you seem to be trolling and, again, you only want to 'clarify your position' while still making a go at it. I don't know if you're mad that he called out the only models that were in your gallery at the time or if there's something here that has really upset you that makes you keep coming back but, unless it is CONSTRUCTIVE and not just re-clarifying, I don't think posting again and again will do much good.
To bring the story full circle, it's ok to comment and criticize but don't get butthurt when you get attacked after attacking. It's simple, if you don't like it you can say so without being an ass. If you hate it so much that you can't keep from being an ass, there's other places you could go.
Besides, we ride for Doomthumbs.
I do believe it to be constructive to remove something that is offensive from a public place.
show me where I attacked him personally, anywhere in this thread. I have made factual statements throughout, and supported my argument that this thread should be locked. rather then actually addressing the points I raised he (and others like you) have raised that I am simply harassing him because of his vulgar pictures.
I'm not mad that he 'called me out' on a WIP picture of an army I was making years ago. I am offended at the fact that he called me hypocritical for it and misunderstood what I was saying.
hand waiving is fine, but if this is perfectly fine where is the line? is it okay to show a penis as long as its not a real penis? how about is it okay to show sexual acts? in the context of this thread none of these images should be considered inapropriate as this has a NSFW, do not include actual people, or go beyond what has already been posted. considering the skew of his work it would also be 40k related as inspirational work.
though I think this is giving to much credibility to him simply gluing a dick to an insect, as these are actual works of art.
EDIT: to clarify further,
por·nog·ra·phy
[pawr-nog-ruh-fee] Show IPA
–noun
obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, especially those having little or no artistic merit.
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LeBaron wrote:Well, wash-away, while there is one post that really shows your personal attacks, (I do love how you want to 'clarify your position' after each one) it's the fact that you seem to keep coming back at him. There are several people who have pointed out that you seem to be trolling and, again, you only want to 'clarify your position' while still making a go at it. I don't know if you're mad that he called out the only models that were in your gallery at the time or if there's something here that has really upset you that makes you keep coming back but, unless it is CONSTRUCTIVE and not just re-clarifying, I don't think posting again and again will do much good.
To bring the story full circle, it's ok to comment and criticize but don't get butthurt when you get attacked after attacking. It's simple, if you don't like it you can say so without being an ass. If you hate it so much that you can't keep from being an ass, there's other places you could go.
Besides, we ride for Doomthumbs.
I do believe it to be constructive to remove something that is offensive from a public place.
show me where I attacked him personally, anywhere in this thread. I have made factual statements throughout, and supported my argument that this thread should be locked. rather then actually addressing the points I raised he (and others like you) have raised that I am simply harassing him because of his vulgar pictures.
I'm not mad that he 'called me out' on a WIP picture of an army I was making years ago. I am offended at the fact that he called me hypocritical for it and misunderstood what I was saying.
hand waiving is fine, but if this is perfectly fine where is the line? is it okay to show a penis as long as its not a real penis? how about is it okay to show sexual acts? in the context of this thread none of these images should be considered inapropriate as this has a NSFW, do not include actual people, or go beyond what has already been posted. considering the skew of his work it would also be 40k related as inspirational work.
though I think this is giving to much credibility to him simply gluing a dick to an insect, as these are actual works of art.
EDIT: to clarify further,
por·nog·ra·phy
[pawr-nog-ruh-fee] Show IPA
–noun
obscene writings, drawings, photographs, or the like, especially those having little or no artistic merit.
So, Count Clarify, we will go through this so that all the points you have brought up can be laid to rest.
First off; "though I think this is giving to much credibility to him simply gluing a dick to an insect, as these are actual works of art." is an attack on him, personally. You seem to be missing this. It's as if I walked up to you, spit in your eye and then wondered why everyone seemed upset with me. You always want to "clarify" which seems to relate to 'I wasn't being a dick and/or attacking him, it just came out really dickish and/or personally attacking, there for, you guys are wrong and I'm still right'. Also, supporting your "argument", as you put it, that this place should be locked because you think it's offensive and in a public place (welcome to the internet) is also a joke. People can see the NSFW sign before entering and, if they decide to come in, are accepting that the things inside are not of a gentle nature and, if they do not like what is here, they can leave. It'd be like walking into a strip joint, staying till closing time and then complaining because you saw naked ladies. It's laughable at minimum.
You have also asked 'where do we draw the line' because, well, I guess you're curious. It's a thin line and we walk it oh so very well. It's like posters in your thread; most know when enough is enough and stop. They do not stop because they were told or because something is keeping them from it, they stop because they know that either the topic is over or they dislike where it is going. Any form of media is the same. TV shows, movies, games, comics, ect. They all know when the topic is over and it's time to move onto something new. Now, others will keep at it till they die and that is where we draw the line. I guess it would amount to "If you know when to stop, come on in. If not, stay out". Most know where the line is drawn and don't tempt it. We are most. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us. Always... wait, what were we talking about again?
Oh, right, the 'points'. Onward then.
You were 'called out' because you were trying to call out Doomthumbs' lack of painting with a statement that was not as grammatically correct as this but with the same gist "I don't see any models painted to TTQ and if they are it's bare minimum". That got DT to look in your personal gallery and point out the paint job on your models with only one being close to that TTQ standard (thought it wasn't done either). Since then, you've gotten better and, though this is belated, good for you. But, really, don't talk bad on someone for the same thing you do. And, yes, we know, you paint better now, not the point. 'Worry about the log in your own eye before the splinter in your brother's'. Not exact but more or less.
And, as Doomthumbs has said before, who/what gives you the right to say what is and is not art? No one and nothing. Art, much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. So, let me clarify this for you: you can not force your opinion here. Because you don't think it's art, does not mean it's not art. Because you don't like what he does, doesn't make it bad. If you don't like it, you can leave. I hope this issue has been thoroughly clarified so there is no confusion on any one's part.
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I see that, having run out of steam to run on, you turn to other sources to make yourself appear more intelligent. Alright, lets go there.
What you fail to realize is that the scrawling of mad-men who define words fail in capturing the way others feel about something. One man's trash is another mans gold. The above is a clear cut case of gold for all of us, except apparently you. Of course, opinion is a fiddly thing, and the majority of those following this thread share in the appreciation of Doom Thumbs' content.
Further, the examples of art you have posted, are all clear examples of classical art, which is all well and fair, but you appear to have taken no consideration of post-modern art. You may not have noticed, but we are in fact living in a post-modern world. Doom Thumbs is at liberty to express his personal self in whichever way he chooses, and if that method entails injecting crude humor into a game steeped in the darkness of bloody war-stained future, then that's his to do. I look at the content he posts to this site and while I hold issue with it, it posts clear examples of innovation that I myself am tempted to use. Considering that a good deal of people are incapable of even doing water effects, DoomThumbs is well ahead because I am envious of what he can do. Either way I fail to see how his choice in self-expression illegitimzes what he does, because it is in the end a productively creative effort. Most of the people that pick up the 40K hobby don't come up with very much that is creative or innovative in what they do, painting, and repainting armies the same color of red, applying a different trim to arrive at either a Khornate force, either marine or daemonic, or a blood angel force, or a red corsairs force, etc. I have seen a great many tyranids, painted with outstanding skill, were it not, by my opinion, for the fact that the colors were unnatural, unorganic and clashed. I was thoroughly displeased with what I felt was an offense to those models, but appreciated that my opinion had little to do with his or anyone else enjoying those models, or what he did with them. The argument that it ought to be kept in private if it is offensive to one or two people is invalid. That does not breed tolerance, it breeds intolerance and ignorance. Just as I have no right to ridicule or demean a person who I feel offensively paints models or wastes canvas does not grant me the power to demand them shut up, shut off, removed and ostracized. I can make my opinion, but that does not entitle in anyone else having to share it. You have made your opinion already but chosen to insist carrying on ramming this thread to the top of the list every odd couple of minutes, as well as risk getting it locked for steering it so badly off-topic, for, using your own words, failing to provide anything of artistic merit related to the content of this thread. You have also succeeded in embarrassing everyone here publicly for dragging us along on your adventure.
Let us be clear with this, that although you may not appreciate the above, and call the above obscene, on account of these having little or no artistic merit, I direct you to the work of Cy Twombly, a celebrated artist, and yet, viewing his paintings, I firmly insist that the excrement he puts on canvas is an insult to art, yet my opinion of his work did not see his paintings removed from the Del Prado National Museum.
I have also observed that none of the images you posted were in any way recent. I tried digging through your threads to find links to other images, but again, found very little that displayed your superior painting prowess to any appreciable degree, or innovative use of existing kits. You ridicule us for showing not improvement in skill or progression, but don't provide anything yourself to be evaluated on.
Let me dissect your second dictionary definition banded around earlier. "Art", as you have defined there, clearly satisfies what DoomThumbs is producing. It is quite clear that a certain amount of pre-meditation and concentration goes into his work, otherwise, the models would be a mess of glue and random parts, and yet, what he produces contains a method and a clarity to it. At a simple level, it can be appealing for its crude humor, but others can find it appealing for, as you have defined, its clearly non-ordinary significance. You use the word "Art" in an elitist method that would see you offend a child, but yet, when a child scrawls on paper, we are all in unanimous agreement that that scrawling, however undecipherable, is indeed art.
You also band the word Vulgar around, pretending you have the power of knowledge imbued in your veins. And yet, the art you showed contained nudity, and violence, two things which at base can be considered to be vulgar. Let us track back to the romantic period in history, where there is a sudden burst of the nude form. I guarantee you, that before this period, the display of the naked human form was quite vulgar and offensive. Consider also Francisco de Goya, who produced art of great quality. Consider also that later in his life the art he produced became progressively darker and more vulgar as as his life went on. You mean to tell me, that his painting of Cronus eating his children, is of no merit for the fact that it is vulgar?
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Hey doomthumbs, all this penis talk made me think of a spore-tower releasing swarms of rippers.
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15 successful trades as a buyer;
16 successful trades as a seller;
To glimpse the future, you must look to the past and understand it. Names may change, but human behavior repeats itself. Prophetic insight is nothing more than profound hindsight.
It doesn't matter how bloody far the apple falls from the tree. If the apple fell off of a Granny Smith, that apple is going to grow into a Granny bloody Smith. The only difference is whether that apple grows in the shade of the tree it fell from.
2011/05/19 07:19:12
Subject: How to Model and Paint Gobblegooklegrampypants (Potentially NSFW?)
wash-away wrote: whats the difference between pornography and vulgarity and art?
vul·gar
[vuhl-ger] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
characterized by ignorance of or lack of good breeding or taste: vulgar ostentation.
2.
indecent; obscene; lewd: a vulgar work; a vulgar gesture.
3.
crude; coarse; unrefined: a vulgar peasant.
art1
[ahrt] Show IPA
–noun
1.
the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance.
2.
the class of objects subject to aesthetic criteria; works of art collectively, as paintings, sculptures, or drawings: a museum of art; an art collection.
3.
a field, genre, or category of art: Dance is an art.
it looks like you clearly fall under vulgar. as I see nothing of quality, expression, or aesthetically beautiful about your work. show much more strongly a great source of ignorant crude attempts at modeling.l
Maybe there isn't a diffrence? I'm pretty sure there's vulgur and pornographic art out there (your latest links are a indication of this atleast). Now if this kind of art is good or bad art is up to each and everyone to decide.
You know, I'm listening to Rammstein, looking at this thread, wondering why some people won't stop and, for some reason, thinking of S&M Nids... is that weird?
Well thats just great. Way to pick the bones completely clean guys. Theres practically nothing left for me to gnaw on.
Being human, I have to sleep. And what happens? I come back and some bridge dweller is trying to clarify a point no one cares about. Calling my work Pwnography?
Hold on, yes, that IS the title of the thread. Its not like I didn't know. I did. I totally knew. Thats why I named it that.
Your verbal diarrhea, laden with misspellings and attempts at big boy words does absolutely zero to impress me, or anyone else, when you can't even use those words right.
wash-away wrote:hand waiving is fine, but if this is perfectly fine where is the line?
Now, regardless of the fact that the above sounds cool due to rhyming, "Hand Waiving" is not an actual term.
"Your" mini is hosted on a photobucket account, and looks very similar to almost every other model out there. Its a nice paintjob, if it is indeed yours, don't get me wrong. Its just that the stance and general originality of the figure is about as bland as air flavored oatmeal. Also, its hosted offsite, so you are either A) detracting from Dakka pageviews, hurting the website you claim to like, or B) Unwilling to put it in your gallery because its not really yours. Your gallery still shows the same 27 very low quality images. I fully grasp the concept that you find my work distasteful. Do you understand that everyone else is laughing at you, writing essay length critiques of your critiques, while the content hungry starve to death?
Even Kingcracker, who I've lambasted publicly several times, has come back forced to admit that the modeling is actually pretty cool. And you know what? So is he. So please drop it.
And though its a matter of opinion, like all art critiques, I still think my ork I painted is more appealing than your fig you submitted as the best in the thread.
Automatically Appended Next Post: If you're out there slogging through this horse manure, I hope you brought your waders. Because its currently chest deep.
Since I've read in literature (always accurate, right?) that music soothes the savage beast, I offer up some more music to listen to while you peruse the thread.
That my initials are DS makes this one of my all time favorite songs, and it could be my models' theme song.
I saw this guy open for MC Chris a few years back. See if you can pick up on both the sarcasm and mocking tone and apply it to this thread.
NanananananananaBADMAN!
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Tyranids attract more tang than an astronaut convention. Success is a little more than I already have. Every day, Forever. Until you have nothing.
As Galactic ruler, I promise to be tough but fair. But tough.
"Dangerous terrain where you just die upon rolling a 1 is for sissies. Parts of the board you wont even move your models into because you're physically afraid of being stung by wasps? Welcome to a Tyranid invasion, cue danger music. "
Check out my NSFW Tyranids! Your eyes will burn for days. Team NSFW: Making wargamers deeply uncomfortable since 2011.
2011/05/19 15:02:34
Subject: How to Model and Paint Gobblegooklegrampypants (Potentially NSFW?)
Wash, I'm a little confused by the case that you're making here. It seems pretty clear that you don't want Doomthumbs posting his conversions on Dakka, but your reasoning seems lacking. Feel free to clarify the following for me.
Spoiler:
1. His models aren't painted. I didn't see anything in the forum guidelines that says all models need to be painted. Moreover, I see plenty of threads where converted models are NOT painted, ostensibly so we can see how they were put together. Should these be closed, in your opinion?
2. His models aren't painted to your standards/TTS.
P&M Forum Guidelines wrote:It's important to remember when posting that the forum includes people of all ages and backgrounds. The miniature you're commenting on may have been painted by a crusty old veteran... or it may have been painted by a kid, someone painting for the first time, someone with a disability or just by someone who's a bit nervous about sharing their work.
Clearly, the guidelines have not set a minimum standard for painting. While you are more than welcome to your opinion on the quality of DT's work, it carries no value in determining whether or not he can post it here.
3. His modeling and painting skills aren't as good as yours, and aren't improving. As far as I understand, Dakka has no rules regarding a person's skill or ability in determining whether they are allowed to post their creative works. Suggesting that someone's work lacks value if they aren't as capable as you is an untenable position. Certainly there are people who are more talented than you, and they could just as easily say that your work doesn't belong on this site, either. I am impressed by your basic trooper, but you are by no means a litmus test.
4. His models are offensive. I don't think that the potential of this thread to offend people has gone unnoticed. DT has mentioned it several times, and plenty of people have pointed out how he has upset their delicate sensibilities. The fact that you are among the latter is noted, and respected. Given that you hold this view, there are two avenues for you to respond: (1) you could unsubscribe from the thread, mark DT (and anyone else you like) with the 'Ignore' button, and go on about your life, or (2) you could continue to complain about being offended after several moderators have reiterated that the thread does not need to be locked, ostensibly in the hopes that a mob of protesters will bully them into changing their decision. I find the latter distasteful, and would discourage you from pursuing it.
5. His models are vulgar, immature, crude, lack artistic value and negatively impact the prestige of the forums.
Vulgarity is a concept that, while it may be defined objectively in a dictionary, need be applied subjectively in real life. The supreme court (who I mention simply because their work reflects the thorough debate and consideration of a group of widely respected scholars) has struggled greatly with segregating works that are obscene/vulgar from those that are protected by the freedom of speech. Justice Stewart's 1964 concurring opinion, for example, essentially says "I know it when I see it."
Because of the subjective nature of labeling work as obscene or vulgar (in the same sense as you defined pornography as lacking artistic merit), any application is simply an opinion. Once again your opinion is noted, but the comments in this thread show that it's far from consensus and in fact does not reflect the views of the moderators (whose opinions are, ultimately, the only ones that have any bearing on whether a thread will be locked or not). Unless you expect your opinion to outweigh the aforementioned, I'm not sure what you hope to achieve by restating it several times in the same thread.
6. This thread has wandered OT, and should therefore be locked. Your adamant resolve to clarify (which my father always referred to as "getting the last word in") merely contributes to driving this thread OT. I have struggled with whether to respond to you or not, but resolved to simply so that, if another crusading knight rides into this thread on their moral high horse, my reasoning will dissuade them from treating Dakka as their damsel in distress. My opinion, which I doubt I am alone in, is that the imagery from Don Quixote is far more relevant in this case.
ON TOPIC: I've been thinking a lot about your ripper band, and I keep coming back to the term "Candy Rainbows". I still think a bubblegum name is perfect, and I'll keep working on it to see what I come up with
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Ok, today is going to be "extreme content day". I'm gonna shove as much conversion love as I can into this thread. Because content is why you're here.
If you came here to argue, thats cool too, but I've now apparently gathered a posse to do that for me. Seriously, you guys are the best. I'll sneak some digs in when I can.
But for now, time to post some conversion work.
Below is a model that could be used for a Hive guard/ Big gun warrior/ maybe even a Prime.
You best believe he be posin', as I believe the colloquial phrase tossed around by the youth goes. He about to pop a cap, yo.
The gun barrel sticks out a good 2.5" out past the edge of the base, and is cocked sideways firing fleshhooks. Gangstaaaa....
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Hive Guard busting shots sideways with a hand between his legs for "the clutch"/holding his (ostensibly sagging) pants up?
You've gone Emeril Lagasse on us. Keep up the great work!
“Who is to judge what is right and what is wrong? Great and powerful foes surround us; unknown miscreants gnaw at us from within. We are threatened with total annihilation. In days such as these we can afford no luxury of morality.”
Tyranids attract more tang than an astronaut convention. 
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But, really, don't talk bad on someone for the same thing you do. And, yes, we know, you paint better now, not the point. 'Worry about the log in your own eye before the splinter in your brother's'. Not exact but more or less.
