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price is located in the first paragraph on the bottom section, the one with the lightbulb picture.

JudgeShamgar wrote:price is located in the first paragraph on the bottom section, the one with the lightbulb picture.

5gs is too steep for me. In a year or two it will be 1000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law

That wiki article is a hoot. I guess waiting would be a good thing. All that more releases from GW too.


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This is the same size build at half the price!!

http://pp3dp.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=5&Itemid=37

And this is whay people react badly when someone brings up 3-D printing. Doesn't take long until the whole fething arguement pops up again, and diverges into copyrights, what's a 'grey area', etc. etc.

JudgeShamgar wrote:That wiki article is a hoot. I guess waiting would be a good thing. All that more releases from GW too.


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This is the same size build at half the price!!

http://pp3dp.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=5&Itemid=37

Indeed but I cant see any quality photos. I think makerbot is the company to watch. An interesting addition to the wiki page. It is theorized that as soon as true artificial intelligence is created, technology will improve at an obscene rate. Its believed almost every issue in the world will be solved. Its a massive brain capable of thinking like us except it has no limit to memories it holds or the amount of thoughts it can have at once. The most important difference though is that where our brains use slow (I say that relatively as clearly to us they seem instant) chemical reactions to send most signals, an electronic brain thinks literally at the speed of light.

And this is whay people react badly when someone brings up 3-D printing. Doesn't take long until the whole fething arguement pops up again, and diverges into copyrights, what's a 'grey area', etc. etc.

I dont see the issue here. Nobody is upset and nobody is being arrested. If you can honestly say you aren't interested in massively lowering the cost of your plastic soldier addiction then thats ok. Nobody is going to tell you that you are right or wrong. I brought up in the thread. If its not the appropriate place to do so then share where it can go. Other than this conversation about printers and tech advancement, this thread is pretty dead. If your just telling me to not bring it up because you personally dont like it I'm going to have to respectfully decline.

The only issue I have with AI is that you would have to have an organic transmission system because everything else would offer too much resistance. I saw an interesting show on a "world in a box" a world that only exists in a computer with multiple AI running at the same time. Scary good.


To your edit:I agree with you on the pirated software/song issue. No one minds when they can use Napster (in the old days) or Vuse to get free information. But when it is something physical-look out! The world is ending!

JudgeShamgar wrote:The only issue I have with AI is that you would have to have an organic transmission system because everything else would offer too much resistance. I saw an interesting show on a "world in a box" a world that only exists in a computer with multiple AI running at the same time. Scary good.


To your edit:I agree with you on the pirated software/song issue. No one minds when they can use Napster (in the old days) or Vuse to get free information. But when it is something physical-look out! The world is ending!

PMed you

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And yes, I'm guilty here, too.

mikhaila wrote:

warboss wrote:

mikhaila wrote:

Didn't forget Infinity. Tried to sell it, hasn't caught on in this area. Sold 0 blisters, books or sets in 2 months, back it went to the distributer. Not sure why.

It's nice that your distributor lets you do that. If you didn't sell something of GW's (like if for some odd reason you sold zero of your upcoming necron order hypothetically), would GW let you return the items for full credit?

If I couldn't sell any of the Necrons I ordered, it means I'm dead and they can just bury me surrounded by Ghost Arks and Command Barges.)

But can you see the benefit being able to return non-selling product affords to a smaller or newer retailer who is just getting their feet wet or just starting to expand their coverage of the lines? I've seen several comic shops that start out expanding their gaming section with just a single rack of 40k items to test the waters for 40k interest locally. The times I've seen it, the stores tend to stock new releases since that generates interest a bit more immediately than stuff that has been out for a while. I guess I'm just a proponent for equal choice and I see this as GW trying to clamp down on that (which is admittedly 100% their right to do). I just (in my entirely amateur, biased, and anecdotal view) see the chance for more stores to simply stop carrying the product than switching to ordering specifically from GW. Just like with annual price raises, it suspect that it won't actually help grow the hobby and will instead decrease their bottom line.

As for the last part, I think it would be both fitting AND entertaining if you wrote in your will that you be burried surrounded by an army of little plastic necron warriors. Just think of it as your own pennsylvania plastic version of the chinese emperor and his terracotta army (with a bit of pharoah mixed in due to the necron restyle!).

warboss wrote:

mikhaila wrote:

warboss wrote:

mikhaila wrote:

Didn't forget Infinity. Tried to sell it, hasn't caught on in this area. Sold 0 blisters, books or sets in 2 months, back it went to the distributer. Not sure why.

It's nice that your distributor lets you do that. If you didn't sell something of GW's (like if for some odd reason you sold zero of your upcoming necron order hypothetically), would GW let you return the items for full credit?

If I couldn't sell any of the Necrons I ordered, it means I'm dead and they can just bury me surrounded by Ghost Arks and Command Barges.)

But can you see the benefit being able to return non-selling product affords to a smaller or newer retailer who is just getting their feet wet or just starting to expand their coverage of the lines? I've seen several comic shops that start out expanding their gaming section with just a single rack of 40k items to test the waters for 40k interest locally. The times I've seen it, the stores tend to stock new releases since that generates interest a bit more immediately than stuff that has been out for a while. I guess I'm just a proponent for equal choice and I see this as GW trying to clamp down on that (which is admittedly 100% their right to do). I just (in my entirely amateur, biased, and anecdotal view) see the chance for more stores to simply stop carrying the product than switching to ordering specifically from GW. Just like with annual price raises, it suspect that it won't actually help grow the hobby and will instead decrease their bottom line.

As for the last part, I think it would be both fitting AND entertaining if you wrote in your will that you be burried surrounded by an army of little plastic necron warriors. Just think of it as your own pennsylvania plastic version of the chinese emperor and his terracotta army (with a bit of pharoah mixed in due to the necron restyle!).

Returnable product is always a nice option. The problem that occurs is whenever a product is returnable, a great deal more gets ordered, and a lot of it get's returned, increasing a lot of costs in the manufacturers and distributer sides. In some cases it helps grow a new product, and the manufacturer doesn't mind the cost of returns. DC comics is doing a great job with this on their new 52 line up. But we rarely see this in comics on this scale, and it won't become the norm, ever.

My infinity deal was done by a distributor. He offers several of these on new products. If it works out, a store has a new line of models selling and he sees a profit. If not, he takes it back, costing him money with restocking etc. but is hopefully made worthwhile by the people that do keep it all. Over the years GW has often taken product back from a shop, to fix overstocking problems. That ended a few years ago, and I understood the reasons why at the time. And while it can be a great thing, it can also be a crutch, and encourage retailers to over order. Unlike comics, GW doesn't run out of models, we can always get more the next week.

I like the idea of being buried with 10,000 necron warriors, keeping guard over me.

Kanluwen wrote:You're somehow surprised about this, given that European independent game shops, specifically in Poland, pretty much spoiled three separate releases this year?

I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner, frankly.

QFT. Im with GW here.